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LondonEvie

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If you want an interesting read:
« on: 15 October 2008, 05:30:59 am »


 But do not read the comments unless you want to become really angry.
 http://gawker.com/5062375/prostitution-still-a-safe-bet-in-new-depression?cpage=2&sort=asc#viewcomments

 

UrbaneAspects

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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #1 on: 15 October 2008, 08:22:21 am »


 But do not read the comments unless you want to become really angry.
 http://gawker.com/5062375/prostitution-still-a-safe-bet-in-new-depression?cpage=2&sort=asc#viewcomments

 

 :D Laugh MY FUCKING ASS OFF AT THOSE COMMENTS!!! BASTARDSS LOL  :D

amy

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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #2 on: 15 October 2008, 11:51:17 am »
There has been some great stuff in the British press for those who might like something a bit more relevant to the UK - the Daily Mail is always good for a laugh (and handy when decorating/running out of toilet roll) plus the Independent and the broadsheets have run stories on the proposed law changes, sex industry/credit crunch. Here are some recent ones (and the comments are worth a look too):

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/10/12/battle-to-axe-prostitutes-sex-adverts-on-internet-78057-20796017/

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/sex-industry/vice-uk-britains-booming-prostitution-industry-940078.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/17/women.gender?commentpage=1

The last one is my favourite - good for Lara! ;D

LondonEvie

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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #3 on: 15 October 2008, 01:48:54 pm »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/17/women.gender?commentpage=1

The last one is my favourite - good for Lara! ;D


That last one with Lara got torn to goddamn shreds by the site `Jezebel' which purports to be an inclusive news blog for women- sister site to the link I had.. . Real inclusive! Fortunately the Guardian commenters were actually pretty reasonable and understanding, even they got ripped apart.

I get the impression some of those comments came from people who've never met or spoken to a prostitute and have just seen statistics on how we're all abused, dropouts, drug addicts and pimped and take it as writ.  What does anyone think of the connection between legal status and differences between UK and US opinions? x

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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #4 on: 15 October 2008, 02:04:09 pm »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/17/women.gender?commentpage=1

The last one is my favourite - good for Lara! ;D


That last one with Lara got torn to goddamn shreds by the site `Jezebel' which purports to be an inclusive news blog for women- sister site to the link I had.. . Real inclusive! Fortunately the Guardian commenters were actually pretty reasonable and understanding, even they got ripped apart.

I get the impression some of those comments came from people who've never met or spoken to a prostitute and have just seen statistics on how we're all abused, dropouts, drug addicts and pimped and take it as writ.  What does anyone think of the connection between legal status and differences between UK and US opinions? x


Yes, I've seen Jezebel lol. Fortunately these bloody extremists are too far gone to be taken seriously by anyone, whichever side you're on. I read a blog on there one day about blow jobs which was so ridiculous it made me laugh out loud - it's the sort of middle-class, look-at-me, PC foot stomping that sixth-formers tend to ally themselves with just to get a reaction from their parents  ;D.

I do think the comments are fairly understandable given the image portrayed of prostitutes and their clients by the media - the public have very little knowledge of the industry and don't really have anything apart from this to go on; if I thought that all prostitution was like this, I might well think the same thing. The trouble is as we are constantly told by the politicos, we 'in the middle' ladies make up such a small proportion of the total number of working prostitutes that we are considered an insignificant factor. I think it is a dangerous assumption; I would imagine that we 'off-street' workers are in fact the majority and they seem to forget that both us and our clients are voters too!
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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #5 on: 15 October 2008, 02:59:33 pm »
They do tend to sensationalize prostitution but they do that with any story, when in fact I suspect a lot of us are just very ordinary women - just like them.

They can't assume that in every other profession and I include housewife (raising your children and looking after your family's needs) as a profession that there are no alcoholics, people who've suffered abuse, insecurities and low self-esteem and exploitation going on or has gone on in their lives - I don't think these things are exclusive to prostitution - it's just no-one is interested in the alcoholic housewife or anorexic plumber so you never hear about them even though they equally exist.

I've read Charlie Daniels book - it's frank.

LondonEvie

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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #6 on: 15 October 2008, 10:12:51 pm »

- it's the sort of middle-class, look-at-me, PC foot stomping that sixth-formers tend to ally themselves with just to get a reaction from their parents  ;D.


Yes! If I read one more thing about how tall buildings are men compensating for penis insecurity and conquering mother sky with their big phalluses' I'll die laughing or possibly from too much confusion.

 Making really big buildings IS more of a weeing contest, but tall buildings just make good use of limited space!  In absolute agreement with remainder of your comment. It's misinformation to a degree, and also some rather poorly designed studies which could never be called scientifically valid.


UrbaneAspects

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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #7 on: 16 October 2008, 01:56:16 am »
I don't think these things are exclusive to prostitution - it's just no-one is interested in the alcoholic housewife or anorexic plumber so you never hear about them even though they equally exist.

thats very true...you said that very well.

Whenever sex is mixed into a sentence, y'all...There is always going to be controversy regardless. Its not us...it's what we do.

And people are going to get riled up over sex no matter what.

LondonEvie

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« Reply #8 on: 16 October 2008, 09:43:20 pm »


Agreed.
It's easy to forget that the highest levels of drug and alcohol abuse occur among professionals like lawyers and medical doctors. The s-e-x word sells more copies x

amy

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Re: If you want an interesting read:
« Reply #9 on: 16 October 2008, 11:11:57 pm »
Here's another good one from earlier:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/16/law-jacquismith

Don't get me started on the Poppy Project...

LondonEvie

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« Reply #10 on: 17 October 2008, 12:17:34 am »


And don't get me started on research methodology, dammit! I hate seeing studies reported where the very articles written on it tear it to shreds and are taken as golden. Good on the Guardian for posting this. It's not his field, but I bet Ben Goldacre is perplexed too.

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« Reply #11 on: 21 October 2008, 12:58:36 am »
The way they are going about helping those who may need help within the industry is unpleasant to us who's experiences are not bad. I like the fact that they are concerned at all about those in need, it's just a thought but maybe they'd be better spending more time and energy on the reasons for the one's in need ending up here (that might also help those in other professions too with similar difficulties). Erm not sure I put that across well but I mean tackling something earlier on before it becomes a part of the industry. All in all I think to a point their hearts are in the right place because heaven forbid if I was one of those against their will trafficked women I'd live in hope that someone was coming to get me out.. I'm just thinking of the how? why? in the first place.. If that could be prevented..