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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Caledonia on 26 July 2017, 03:03:52 pm
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I am thinking of making my service more of an exclusive/VIP type service, but being outcalls only I'm stuck on how to do this. The first thing I thought of was starting to provide sensual massages, but I've never gave a massage in my life and don't have the money at the moment for any courses. Also part of me worries if clients would expect other services that I don't & won't provide if they see VIP service.
So if anyone has any ideas that are more vanilla and dont include going into fetish, domination etc then I would appreciate any help.
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Maybe dinner date and private time included! xx more vanilla!
I hope that helps!
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Maybe dinner date and private time included! xx more vanilla!
I hope that helps!
I already have dinner date in my services although I dont really mention it in my texts. Plus that would only really work on longer bookings and would probably need to be hotel outcalls.
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What's your reasoning please?
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You could offer candle lit shared bath with wine or champagne? You might be able to learn basic massage stuff off YouTube and use nice oils and hot towels.
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Goddamn. I just typed out a long response and then this shitty hotel wifi dropped and I lost it :FF
Are there any services you don't include at present which you would consider doing for more money? EG CIM, prostate massage, swallow, rimming?
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What's your reasoning please?
I'm just trying to think of ways to increase my profile and services (not my rates though) while staying near to the type of service I'm happy to offer. As being outcalls only (can't afford regular incalls) I need something to make me stand out.
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Goddamn. I just typed out a long response and then this shitty hotel wifi dropped and I lost it :FF
Are there any services you don't include at present which you would consider doing for more money? EG CIM, prostate massage, swallow, rimming?
Prostate massage possibly as long as they are clean. The others are not things I'm into even in my personal life and I prefer only doing what I'm comfortable with than forcing myself to do services I don't like
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You could offer candle lit shared bath with wine or champagne? You might be able to learn basic massage stuff off YouTube and use nice oils and hot towels.
I'm outcalls though, would there be any call for this in an outcalls? Plus being a size 24 this might be a bit of a tight fit lol
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OK if you're not happy with giving extra services for VIP then I'd concentrate on playing up some elements of your current offering.
Get on YouTube and watch some videos about giving massage, ta-dah, you are now a masseuse. You're not advertising therapeutic massage so you don't need training - just advertise it as a "sensual full body rub using only the highest quality unscented massage oils".
Advertise that you use "the thinnest condoms in the world for the best and most erotic sensation".
Re-brand one of your current offerings, probably OWO, as something like "an experience that is totally focussed only on your sensation and pleasure".
FYI. Be careful what massage oils you use as some are not condom safe.
I would say that of my VIP customers, less than 50% want full sex anyway. I have designed my advertising to appeal to a service that is focussed on stress relief where they do none of the work.
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OK if you're not happy with giving extra services for VIP then I'd concentrate on playing up some elements of your current offering.
Get on YouTube and watch some videos about giving massage, ta-dah, you are now a masseuse. You're not advertising therapeutic massage so you don't need training - just advertise it as a "sensual full body rub using only the highest quality unscented massage oils".
Advertise that you use "the thinnest condoms in the world for the best and most erotic sensation".
Re-brand one of your current offerings, probably OWO, as something like "an experience that is totally focussed only on your sensation and pleasure".
FYI. Be careful what massage oils you use as some are not condom safe.
I would say that of my VIP customers, less than 50% want full sex anyway. I have designed my advertising to appeal to a service that is focussed on stress relief where they do none of the work.
I'm OW only. This is sounding like less of a good idea. I mean if my body and boob size don't get me the bookings I want then adding a few more services probably being won't do much. Although then again my size could be the problem, perhaps there's just not that many guys into ladies of my size in my area. I mean most of my bookings have always came from those who are in the area for business.
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If you're not happy to offer more services for more money then I'd say clients are going to question what they are paying for.
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If you're not happy to offer more services for more money then I'd say clients are going to question what they are paying for.
I'm not looking for more money, I previously said my rates would stay the same.
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Oh sorry, I missed that post!
Maybe the massage thing would work but it doesn't sound like there are many more services that you're happy with adding.
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My advice would be offer a good service, get some good photos, do whatever you are good at.
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My advice would be offer a good service, get some good photos, do whatever you are good at.
Yeah really need decent photos. I've always used my phone but the camera on the one I have now is rubbish. Really think its just a lack of guys into girls who are really large in my area, as I said previously majority of my clients have always been visiting for business or on holiday
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I mean I don't have any problem providing new services, but I've never wanted to just provide services I'm not really into just for the sake of possibly getting a few more clients. As I've always felt that it shows when you do something your not into and affects business anyway.
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Hi, I might be reading incorrectly between the lines, but am taking it as you are looking for more clients at the same rate- I'm not sure of the reasoning behind going exclusive/VIP unless you have rates to match? If it is just about increasing business then I agree good photos do help and maybe just a rejig of your text on profile/website/adverts.
I also think that VIP/Exclusive etc doesn't necessarily mean more clients and as far as I can tell these kinds of escorts have a flashy incall place to justify this- I don't believe their looks or services are actually much different to regular escorts and to be really honest how can you be 'exclusive' if you are seeing more than one client ever?! You need to think about what makes YOU different to other escorts in your area and what it is clients actually look for- I'd guess that your size is one of your niches so you need to play on that but also maybe using words like independent, experienced, professional, discreet, fun, friendly, kind, patient- I think a lot of chaps look for this- being established and genuine is a real thing many men look for because they are nervous about being ripped off or made to feel shitty somehow. I think there is merit in being 'normal' girl next door' type of escort because the terribly posh glammy women are intimidating to some men and also lists of what they think of as 'scary' services puts some off.
NB: Not saying those who are 'high'end' or offer BDSM are wrong- just that there are clients for all types of women and we all have to work on what we do best.
One other thing you could add to your profile relating to being experienced is maybe talking about being happy to see virgins or inexperienced men, maybe 'sex lessons'?
I also think being outcall only significantly reduces the number of clients so could you consider touring or booking a hotel room locally or even getting in on a working flat?
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Hi, I might be reading incorrectly between the lines, but am taking it as you are looking for more clients at the same rate- I'm not sure of the reasoning behind going exclusive/VIP unless you have rates to match? If it is just about increasing business then I agree good photos do help and maybe just a rejig of your text on profile/website/adverts.
I also think that VIP/Exclusive etc doesn't necessarily mean more clients and as far as I can tell these kinds of escorts have a flashy incall place to justify this- I don't believe their looks or services are actually much different to regular escorts and to be really honest how can you be 'exclusive' if you are seeing more than one client ever?! You need to think about what makes YOU different to other escorts in your area and what it is clients actually look for- I'd guess that your size is one of your niches so you need to play on that but also maybe using words like independent, experienced, professional, discreet, fun, friendly, kind, patient- I think a lot of chaps look for this- being established and genuine is a real thing many men look for because they are nervous about being ripped off or made to feel shitty somehow. I think there is merit in being 'normal' girl next door' type of escort because the terribly posh glammy women are intimidating to some men and also lists of what they think of as 'scary' services puts some off.
NB: Not saying those who are 'high'end' or offer BDSM are wrong- just that there are clients for all types of women and we all have to work on what we do best.
One other thing you could add to your profile relating to being experienced is maybe talking about being happy to see virgins or inexperienced men, maybe 'sex lessons'?
I also think being outcall only significantly reduces the number of clients so could you consider touring or booking a hotel room locally or even getting in on a working flat?
That's exactly it, it was more just making myself stand out. So thought providing a more exclusive service but without the exclusive prices might be a potentially good idea. But yes your idea is probably best.
I'm a bit wary about incalls just now as last time I didn't have one booking and lost 200 which was all the money I had at the time.
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Oh I get that! I'm lucky enough to be able to do incalls from home and the odd time I have toured I have never made a lot or even anything and have cancelled tours because of not enough interest. Maybe looking for a working flat an option? The costs tend to be lower and some charge a percentage or set amount per booking so if it's quiet it's not so expensive. However have no idea what's around in your area so can't be more help there!
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Made a few tweaks to my text. Put a bit more emphasis on my size (body and boobs) by having any mention of it in bold. Also put things like independent, experienced, warm, friendly and discreet relaxed sensual GFE in bold as well.
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I offer a type of VIP service but I charge more for it.
It might be worth trying to put your prices up (even though you mentioned you don't want to do this) as clients are happy to pay for it. The majority of my clients pay for it as they feel they are getting something special, which they are of course. 8)
I still have my standard rates too so clients can choose what suits them best.
Try it and see how it goes. If you keep your standard rates too then you've got nothing to lose.
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Is there anything in particular that you think you do well, or like, or could specialise in, like oily tit wanks or something? Just a USP you could build a bit of a focus on to make your profile stand out?
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Is there anything in particular that you think you do well, or like, or could specialise in, like oily tit wanks or something? Just a USP you could build a bit of a focus on to make your profile stand out?
Definitely good with oily tit wanks lol.
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Definitely good with oily tit wanks lol.
You could make it a full on oily body rub with oily boob massage? If mine are big enough to massage people with yours definitely are - you don't have to worry about the mess on outcalls, just buy a huge waterproof fitted sheet that would completely cover a hotel bed and take it with you along with a couple of big towels (and maybe put it in your ads that you'll need access to a shower afterwards). It probably wouldn't cope with something like nuru but they can take a fair bit of mess :).
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You could make it a full on oily body rub with oily boob massage? If mine are big enough to massage people with yours definitely are - you don't have to worry about the mess on outcalls, just buy a huge waterproof fitted sheet that would completely cover a hotel bed and take it with you along with a couple of big towels (and maybe put it in your ads that you'll need access to a shower afterwards). It probably wouldn't cope with something like nuru but they can take a fair bit of mess :).
That's an idea for the future. Just now everything has to fit in a normal bag for discretion reasons.
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Definitely good with oily tit wanks lol.
My party piece is I can give a Tit Wank and blow job at the same time if they're big enough!