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Re: HPV - Help.
« Reply #75 on: 16 February 2020, 08:56:01 am »
https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/hpv-diagnosis-what-now/msg379728/#msg379728
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« Reply #76 on: 16 February 2020, 12:23:06 pm »
You have HPV which has led to some changes in your cells which means they will have a look at your cervix under a microscope (called a colposcope) and possibly take a biopsy if they think they need to. You don't have cancer, but the possible cell changes MIGHT lead to cancer in the future if you don't get them sorted now. (when I say future, I mean 10, 20. 30 years time - much easier to remove a few cells NOW :) )

You will likely be advised to stop smoking (if you smoke) as this is one thing that hinders the body's immune system in dealing with the hpv infection.
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« Reply #77 on: 16 February 2020, 12:55:55 pm »
What Cat said.

If you're a smoker, try and stop.

In the colposcopy they 'paint' the cervix with a liquid that shows up any irregular patches of cells. If they see these, they may take a biopsy (it's just like a harsh little prick). You may have light bleeding for 24-48 hours afterwards (though I didn't). Depending on the result, you'll either be called in for another smear or colposcopy in 6 or 12 months, or they give you some treatment (laser/cauterisation).

For now, it's nothing to worry about.
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« Reply #78 on: 16 February 2020, 02:41:01 pm »
 ;D i am quitting smocking but was not for it... thank you a lot
i was worried but now i manage better, when i can not control things do not worth it.
thank you a lot! a reason more to quit!
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« Reply #79 on: 16 February 2020, 05:31:28 pm »
I was going to start a thread on this. I'm in the same boat but they detected a high dyskaryosis which tbh is making me very worried. They have took a biopsy and said I will need the cells removed. Going forward I'm scared to carry on with this line of work incase it comes back again or something. I read that girls in our profession have a 91% risk of getting cervical cancer.
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« Reply #80 on: 16 February 2020, 05:52:43 pm »
Quote from: Teetee on 16 February 2020, 05:31:28 pm
I read that girls in our profession have a 91% risk of getting cervical cancer.

Leaving aside the 'girls', read on what? Compared with whom as the control group? I'm sure I'm not the only person who would be thrilled to see the source of this particular gem ;D.


Edit: and merged, which was what I came on the thread to do :S
« Last Edit: 16 February 2020, 06:01:19 pm by amy »
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« Reply #81 on: 16 February 2020, 07:37:33 pm »
Quote from: amy on 16 February 2020, 05:52:43 pm
Leaving aside the 'girls', read on what? Compared with whom as the control group? I'm sure I'm not the only person who would be thrilled to see the source of this particular gem ;D.


Edit: and merged, which was what I came on the thread to do :S

I remember a couple of years ago reading something about sex workers have a higher risk of throat/ mouth cancer if they give oral sex especially with multiple men i think that has some truth to it as makes sence not heard about cervical cancer threat though because most sex workers use condoms for that. I did ask a GUM nurse once about Throat cancer risks and she said it would be a higher risk for sex workers providing oral sex without protection.
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« Reply #82 on: 16 February 2020, 09:42:47 pm »
Quote from: English Green on 16 February 2020, 07:37:33 pm
I remember a couple of years ago reading something about sex workers have a higher risk of throat/ mouth cancer if they give oral sex especially with multiple men i think that has some truth to it as makes sense not heard about cervical cancer threat though because most sex workers use condoms for that. I did ask a GUM nurse once about Throat cancer risks and she said it would be a higher risk for sex workers providing oral sex without protection.

If there is a higher risk, it's mostly down to higher levels of smoking and drinking.

https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/i-do-blowjob-without-condoms/msg325273/#msg325273
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« Reply #83 on: 16 February 2020, 09:46:10 pm »
Quote from: xw5 on 16 February 2020, 09:42:47 pm
If there is a higher risk, it's mostly down to higher levels of smoking and drinking.

https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/i-do-blowjob-without-condoms/msg325273/#msg325273

An article is doing the media rounds linking partner numbers with overall cancer risks, is this also other lifestyle factors?
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« Reply #84 on: 16 February 2020, 09:46:45 pm »
Quote from: English Green on 16 February 2020, 07:37:33 pm
I remember a couple of years ago reading something about sex workers have a higher risk of throat/ mouth cancer if they give oral sex especially with multiple men i think that has some truth to it as makes sence not heard about cervical cancer threat though because most sex workers use condoms for that. I did ask a GUM nurse once about Throat cancer risks and she said it would be a higher risk for sex workers providing oral sex without protection.

But how would any disease causing organism - incapable of independent thought - have any way of knowing whether or not somebody has been paid? Surely if we substituted 'sex workers' for 'people' (that is, people who regularly have unprotected sex of whatever kind with multiple partners), the odds would be the same. Why would it being paid sex make any difference when it's surely the activity itself that ups the risk - surely a promiscuous civvy with multiple partners would be at more risk than a low volume sex worker who doesn't offer any unprotected services?

I'm still waiting for the source of the 91% statistic and some details of it's context. I must have missed the Lancet that week.
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« Reply #85 on: 16 February 2020, 10:06:33 pm »
Quote from: xw5 on 16 February 2020, 09:42:47 pm
If there is a higher risk, it's mostly down to higher levels of smoking and drinking.

I can't remember his name (and names aren't appropriate on the forum anyway), but this was the story of an actor who had throat cancer a while back and made heavy weather about it being from giving oral sex a lot over many years. Fuck all to do with him smoking like a chimney and drinking like a fish his entire adult life, it was obviously all the fault of those Dirty Diseased Women. Give me fucking strength ::).
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« Reply #86 on: 16 February 2020, 10:12:52 pm »
Quote from: amy on 16 February 2020, 10:06:33 pm
I can't remember his name (and names aren't appropriate on the forum anyway), but this was the story of an actor who had throat cancer a while back and made heavy weather about it being from giving oral sex a lot over many years. Fuck all to do with him smoking like a chimney and drinking like a fish his entire adult life, it was obviously all the fault of those Dirty Diseased Women. Give me fucking strength ::).

I know who you mean, his name is still being mentioned connecting oral sex with cancer.
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« Reply #87 on: 16 February 2020, 10:32:53 pm »
Obviously statistically the risk of catching a bad strain of HPV increases with every sexual partner, but it's still just that - risk. I had a smear catch low-grade changes (which cleared naturally in 2-3 years) when I was still at a single-digit number of men I'd slept with, and 100% of the time with a condom.

The main things are: if you're <40ish, have the vaccine. There was a great article a couple of weeks ago about how it's beginning to have an effect on HPV rates in younger women.
Once you're 25 (and preferably younger if possible), go for your smear tests, religiously.
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« Reply #88 on: 17 February 2020, 01:24:19 pm »
Quote from: amy on 16 February 2020, 09:46:45 pm
But how would any disease causing organism - incapable of independent thought - have any way of knowing whether or not somebody has been paid? Surely if we substituted 'sex workers' for 'people' (that is, people who regularly have unprotected sex of whatever kind with multiple partners), the odds would be the same. Why would it being paid sex make any difference when it's surely the activity itself that ups the risk - surely a promiscuous civvy with multiple partners would be at more risk than a low volume sex worker who doesn't offer any unprotected services?

I'm still waiting for the source of the 91% statistic and some details of it's context. I must have missed the Lancet that week.

Oh yes it would be anybody having lots of oral sex with multiple partners so civvy or sex worker that sees lots of men and performs oral without the condom. If you are using a condom you are protecting your health. I never meant anyone doing oral sex with a condom.

To do with the cervical cancer it would be yet again higher risk if multiple partners and not using a condom for intercourse so it would only mainly be more of a problem if a sex worker was offering bareback sex and seeing multiple ones.
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« Reply #89 on: 08 August 2021, 11:36:57 am »
I was speaking to a old friend of mine who has retired from the sex industry recently but was a sex worker for many years. She has throat cancer now (never smoked and was reasonably healthy) and she says it was caused by doing OWO for a long period with lots of different men and the HPV virus that you pick up from OWO.

She said she never thought too much about the risks of OWO apart from picking up the odd STI that antibiotics could sort out (she caught 3 STI's from her entire working 10 years of working) Obviously she has deep regrets now about what she offered and wish she could turn the clock back so not only very ill but she is suffering from really bad depression.

Does anybody else worry about this or even think about this ever? Obviously many people will get different forms of cancer in there life no matter what they do and even if very healthy but it seems so messed up that something you did in sex work can impact you after you leave the industry behind just seems so unfair that she left it behind was starting a new career and this happened.
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