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Sarah sweeties

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I agree don,t want to come across as negative but I had the same thing happen to me yr and half ago scammer which is on 1 the forums here jerom669. To be fair I can see you not get anything from this guy. If you do good on you. To me with scammers rogues trickters sorry about my spelling! is to stamp them out all getting together warning each other so we can hopefully but ends to all tom dick and harry. That come out the woodwork to try anything for free sex. Ive had it all scammed not just bye clients but agencies. Big porn companys. My policy now you want me you pay me first no bullsh**t of I make you big. I give you twice the amount your rates. I do your photo,s and contents for you so you get more bookings blah blah blah No its that ???? upfront or you get nothing !
im such a sweetie pie

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I don't fully agree with the responses so far, it's true she's unlikely to get her money through a debt agency but it might make him reconsider if bailiffs turn up at his house, his family/wife/job reputation or whatever aren't going to be impressed so it might at least deterr him from doing this again. I think it's highly unlikely she'll be taken to court unless the bailiffs start beating him up or something stupid

As for going to the police with other women she should definitely do that, sure it probably won't stand up in court but it definitely definitely doesn't negate telling them, and in a group will bring more attention to the issue, the police will have to at least be seen to do something again which might scare him into stopping. The point is there needs to be more legal protection for escort, and sitting there saying oh well there isn't so just forget about it isn't going to change it. Her bringing attention to this with the police may bring more attention to the fact escorting needs more legal protection, who knows?

I can understand her feeling raped, it's no different from a man lying about wanting to marry a woman to get her into bed (a college boy did this to his childhood friend) it's maybe not as serious as rape but i certainly think deceiving someone into sex should be seen as a legal issue. As for saying well you have no proof, most people in personal crimes have no proof either, does that mean we should go back to it being legal to rape your wife? Of course not she should definitely try and get the police to act even if they might not do anything. Yes she is a very silly girl for accepting the money after but not everyone realises there are forums like this to research a profession before taking it up. Maybe she just bought a escorting book and they can be useless, we all make silly mistakes and they're not always obvious without some experience. Sometimes it takes fresh eyes to remind us not to accept things as they are and I for one definitely believe the law should start examining escorts being taken monetarily taken advantage if, people have bank statements etc and it's theft. For the record I've never been tricked out of my fee.

Also just a word to the wise if you make a bug fuss and bring attention to yourselves are you prepared to being named/outed in court then the papers  that to me would be worse than loosing the the fee for the  booking  ( i know it isnt fair but just life) when i went to court against some one who robbed where i worked i didnt realise till the very last minute that  they were making our real names etc available in open court  with a reporter there ...until the prosecuter told me  after the police said they wouldnt i had to write a begging letter to the judge asking them to pretty please not name me as my son was taking his exams and i couldnt let him screw up his life as a wanker wanted to rob me luckily the judge agreed with me but they dont always .

Just take it on the chin and move on ..........i did allnighter more than 20  years ago with a high profile person had the worst night of my
life total prick and i left my fee in hotel and didnt realise till the day after  yes i was pissed off but at so many points that night i nearly left without the fee and with hindsight should of cos i didnt end up with the money after all .

i just laugh about it now and i never count on the money till the booking has finished just in case i need to give the money back  for any reason at any point !

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A couple of posters on here are comparing this situation to rape. What happened to that lady was nothing close to rape. Not disputing how terrible this lady must feel but the sex was consensual.

I'm glad I got all the Cynthia Payne books before the prices rocked to sky high.

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A couple of posters on here are comparing this situation to rape. What happened to that lady was nothing close to rape. Not disputing how terrible this lady must feel but the sex was consensual.


Totally agree LOTM.
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It is about having a pretty mind, a pretty heart,
And most importantly a beautiful soul.

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Hi ladies , just my 2 pennies worth!!!
 I was raped by a punter nearly 20 years ago whilst working on the streets and it went to court with the police support 100% ..and my name was all over the local papers at the time and at my parents door, you cannot compare what happen to this lady to rape...she chose to stay with him for the night with out getting the money up front!!!! So just get on with  your days and just assured Karma will come his way!!!! Life has a strange way of rewarding these people xxxxx  Have a safe evening x

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A couple of posters on here are comparing this situation to rape. What happened to that lady was nothing close to rape. Not disputing how terrible this lady must feel but the sex was consensual.


Totally agree  -  it was consensual sex,  regardless of the fact that she didn't get paid for it , it defiantly wasn't rape,
I would say that you have learnt a harsh hard expensive lesson You wont make the same mistake again
Honestly the stress that you will get from trying to pursue this is really not worth it 

 As others have said  bailiffs wont just turn up at his door,  and any decent debt collector who is familiar with the law  wouldn't take something like this on because the chances of them getting there percentage is virtually zero. 
 Debt collectors  are not in the business to help you because you have been scammed,  they simply want there cut of the money if and when they collect it   



River

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Hi rhonasg.
I occasionally get a request from a client, asking to pay after the session.
I point out that anything that is not MUF (Money Up Front)
is a freebie, and I don't do freebies.
Then I hold out my hand, smile and ask for the Coin.  :)

Never be told that you lost nothing.
You lost your time; your time was stolen from you.
The only thing you have to sell is your time.
Once it's gone, you never get it back.
This is no different, morally,
from a person who works on minimum wage for a month
and on pay-day the boss telling the employee that they have no money and they aren't going to pay them.

Yes he stole from you.
But as others have correctly pointed out, sex-based contracts
are unenforcible. This means you have no legal redress.
The only thing you can do is put a note in the warning section on this site
and the various other sites that post warnings of dodgy clients,
like here: https://uknswp.org/um/
Learn from this and move on, less the grudge eats you up which will only hurt you.
You're new to Escorting so it may help you look at this as a learning exercise,
figuring out what works for you and what doesn't.
A learning investment for your Professional future.

ellie38hh

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totally agreeing with you!!! We can only blame ourselves if we do services and don't get paid!!! We cant go to mc donalds and ask to eat dinner and pay later!! we cant go Tesco and shop and ask to pay later.... We offer a service and to be honest in all the 25 years of doing this job yes many many times i have been asked can they pay afterwards and on a few occasions i have left as payment hasn't been forth coming but never have i worked with out payment up front... ITS A LESSON LADIES AND WE LEARN MANY THROUGH THE YEARS.... don't get angry with the men !! learn from it..xxxx

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I didn't say it was rape but I'd definitely consider it sexual assault and just because something is comparable to rape doesn't make rape any less serious, there's a spectrum in all crimes. She consented to sex on the condition that she was paid and she wasn't, she wouldn't have consented if she wasn't paid so it wasn't fully consensual either, he may not have physically overpowered her or harmed her but he did trick her into something she wouldn't otherwise done, it might not be rape to get a woman very very drunk and take her back to yours but it's certainly a very very morally grey area if you coerce or trick someone into doing something they wouldn't otherwise do. Much like putting holes in condoms is considered sexual assault I personally feel that this is classed as that too, doesn't mean it'll go anywhere in court or legally but I still think it's worth trying even if only to notify the police unless the girl is particularly concerned about family finding out.

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I didn't say it was rape but I'd definitely consider it sexual assault and just because something is comparable to rape doesn't make rape any less serious, there's a spectrum in all crimes. She consented to sex on the condition that she was paid and she wasn't, she wouldn't have consented if she wasn't paid so it wasn't fully consensual either, he may not have physically overpowered her or harmed her but he did trick her into something she wouldn't otherwise done, it might not be rape to get a woman very very drunk and take her back to yours but it's certainly a very very morally grey area if you coerce or trick someone into doing something they wouldn't otherwise do. Much like putting holes in condoms is considered sexual assault I personally feel that this is classed as that too, doesn't mean it'll go anywhere in court or legally but I still think it's worth trying even if only to notify the police unless the girl is particularly concerned about family finding out.

Hey LadyH, I do not think for one minute your posts are anything but genuine and meant with the best intention but you can NEVER NEVER compare rape or sexual assault to a working girl being 'had off!!!'. She was conned!!!!  She was not hurt or held against her will, she was naive and learnt a very good (albeit difficult) lesson.

Rape and sexual assault is by far enough of a grey area for genuine cases - as a profession would we really even try and claim we were in that same category of the many rape/assault cases that are out there cos we didnt get payed!!!?????X
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As pointed out ad nauseum above, it's still consent, and unless consent is withdrawn, it's neither rape nor sexual assault (and nor is poking holes in condoms, for that matter). Consent to sex is not conditional.

Anybody not sure about what constitutes a sexual offence would be best advised to browse the 2003 Sexual Offences Act. There is also some good advice on Shelly's thread in the Warning section and on the SW5 article linked to on the main site. I think we can move on from this aspect of the OP's starter now please, given that's wandering way off now.

Clue: that's not just a hint.

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As pointed out ad nauseum above, it's still consent, and unless consent is withdrawn, it's neither rape nor sexual assault (and nor is poking holes in condoms, for that matter). Consent to sex is not conditional.

Anybody not sure about what constitutes a sexual offence would be best advised to browse the 2003 Sexual Offences Act. There is also some good advice on Shelly's thread in the Warning section and on the SW5 article linked to on the main site. I think we can move on from this aspect of the OP's starter now please, given that's wandering way off now.

Clue: that's not just a hint.

Ditto that and 100% agree, as I am sure we all do by now. But I have to say ad naseum - great term!! I may be the only that had to google it (and didnt do latin) - but great term!!XX
?Smooth seas do not make skillful sailors.? ? African Proverb