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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Luciexx on 17 January 2017, 08:48:08 pm
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Hi, all
I have had this client, who saw me once, not long ago. He recently suggested the second meet, to which I said, yes, then no further contact e.g. Any date for a booking. I thought it's odd, knowing how efficient he was last time. Little voice in my head starts..a little warning...
He emerges and apologies that there was the death in the family, and couldn't get in touch. Well, my ex used that excuse in women, thinking we would believe that. But, I did believe at the time, why shouldn't I? Fast forward, he said, he's ready to book and tell me it's Tues he wanted, but the date he gave me was next week. I thought it was odd. This morning, I received some dubious message by text, "are you still okay for today?" It's getting more and more elaborate in his lengthy texts, with some drama, as to how he got "mixed up". I got the hint, I said to myself.
Now, he's asking for another date... I said, fine and offered him possible dates as he requested. It's obvious he wasn't confused about the date he gave me. It's deliberate, I can tell, based on all the dramas he keeps dishing out. This guy is a veteran Punter who had seen loads of escorts before me over the years. I doubt he will reschedule. But, he might, one last time, to see if I buy it.
He is missing me around a big time. How do you handle these punter-turns-TW guys? If he tries further tricks, I am planning to post his number under a more appropriate section. Enough is enough.
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Block and move on :FF
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I have had a couple of these guys. How I've handled it is to say "As you've previously had to cancel on me at short notice, due to circumstances beyond your control
which I don't believe, why don't you give me a call at the time you're able to visit, and if I'm available then great. If not, you'll have to try another time."
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i had this problem with one client but then my client started coming back to see me. he would give me lengthy texts and i would ignore them as he kept asking the same questions as he does all the time and started to become annoying. so i told him, he said he understood but still does it to this day but still sees me..
i have another one that does the same as yours. sees me once and then makes excuses about not coming over or not even bothering to explain himself and it i really starting to annoy me
why do they do it for? :FF :FF :FF :FF
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Thank you for your support, ladies. :) Unpleasant. I expect he may well be doing with other ladies. I noticed he has a sub for sending his AW messages to his email. I "tested" to see if he was able to read messages from escorts without having to log on AW and open each new message. He was.
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why do they do it for? :FF :FF :FF :FF
. "I was busy typing with one hand, whilst reading your sweet replies, and I ejaculated so no need for a booking now, and it was so cheap. It only costed your time to reply to my garbage"?
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Block and move on :FF
This.
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If he continuously persists in time wasting, I will, Ana. Thank you. :)
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I saw a guy a few times who pushed boundaries slightly. His behaviour is like this...sends a text wanting a booking, I pencil it in, then he cancels...he normally cancels if I don't respond to some text he sends. I think in some punters it's some sort of weird need for attention.
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Thank you for your support, ladies. :) Unpleasant. I expect he may well be doing with other ladies. I noticed he has a sub for sending his AW messages to his email. I "tested" to see if he was able to read messages from escorts without having to log on AW and open each new message. He was.
What's "a sub"?
How did you find out he could read messages without logging in?
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. "I was busy typing with one hand, whilst reading your sweet replies, and I ejaculated so no need for a booking now, and it was so cheap. It only costed your time to reply to my garbage"?
I think in some punters it's some sort of weird need for attention.
Yes exactly.
It's a way for them to be in touch with us without having to spend money. This is enough to exhilarate some.
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I cannot agree more, Lotus.
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Two clients I can think of right now have been great and reliable and then become pests and time waster.They start sending texts with hints of a booking to come but then don't follow it through. I have given them a couple of chances to do good but as soon as my radar picks up that they are messing with no intention of booking I just either do not answer any further calls or texts or say I am booked up.
Can not be bothered by men like that at all.
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My sentiment, exactly. There are some men whom I no longer care to reply to their messages. Just arrogant, seem to think that they're the customer and they own you/us. I just delete their messages. I avoid having any business with these rude "customers". Thank you for sharing, Jill. :)
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My impression of the one I met a few times was that he was disturbed in some way. He said he still sucked his thumb.
Make of that what you will.
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Two clients I can think of right now have been great and reliable and then become pests and time waster.They start sending texts with hints of a booking to come but then don't follow it through. I have given them a couple of chances to do good but as soon as my radar picks up that they are messing with no intention of booking I just either do not answer any further calls or texts or say I am booked up.
Can not be bothered by men like that at all.
Same here. I had 2 clients who were really good, reliable clients then they turned into annoying pricks sending stupid messages, making out they're gunna book then not confirming anything. Then i get the annoying question 'what time's you got free?'. Why not just give me an effin time and I'll tell you if i'm free. Then asking for times that I'm not available (my start and finishing times are on my profile). Then the most annoying of all, asking if i have any bookings later? Then surprise surprise, no booking made. It's like they love/get a thrill out of wasting time with no intention to book but making it look like they are. Really gets on my nerves.
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It's like they love/get a thrill out of wasting time with no intention to book but making it look like they are. Really gets on my nerves.
There are loads of that amongst TWs. It seems that they fail to see any harm whatsoever. It's very useful to know that I wasn't the only one, who's messed around by someone (with some dramatic messages and lengthy texts), who had already seen me once. It does seem that they get the thrill out of wasting time, as you smartly put it. :)
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If someone starts messing me around I'll tell them that it's spoiling my enjoyment of seeing them, and that if it continues I won't be able to accept any more bookings.
They either change their tune, or move on.
Unfortunately I put up with a lot of this in my early years, and really started to clamp down recently - which also coincided with me chaning to outcall only. Both combined resulting in a really good clear out, and I've ended up with 99.9 percent of clients who are straightforward, no faffing, no hassle, really good working 'relationships'.
I wish I'd stood my ground far sooner, would have saved a lot of heartache and energy which could have been channeled (a) into my bookings and (b) remainder of my life.
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I don't think it's the thrill of wasting our time...I think some of them like to think you are still there in the background willing to respond to them but can't actually afford to see us...so they dangle a carrot then craftily move it away. Or they are psychologically disturbed. Or both!
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That's excellent, a Mirror. Thank you for sharing. :)
Shewolf. Lol money has a big factor, I often thought., too. The client concerned has now rebooked, will see. Some clients are so disorganised, one must add. Or a sign of early Alzheimer's ? ;D
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Persistent texting started this morning. I'm seriously thinking of ditching this client very soon. :-\
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That's excellent, a Mirror. Thank you for sharing. :)
Shewolf. Lol money has a big factor, I often thought., too. The client concerned has now rebooked, will see. Some clients are so disorganised, one must add. Or a sign of early Alzheimer's ? ;D
Best to plant that little seed in their pee brain by asking if they have always been this disorganised or is it a recent thing.
That will shut them up a while (they'll be too busy worrying).
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Best to plant that little seed in their pee brain by asking if they have always been this disorganised or is it a recent thing.
That will shut them up a while (they'll be too busy worrying).
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;D That cracked me up, Shewolf. I wondered he deliberately did it for his "punishment". Fetish clients are so complicated! (A new thread coming up on this, anyone?)
I couldn't take the first one, messing me around, suggesting me a booking and kept withdrawing, and again, suggest a booking and withdrawing over some time ... I decided to fire him after a while. High maintenance, not worth it. Their mental capacity does tend to compete with that of the garden squirrel over organising a booking. ???
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Yep. Like clockwork...the guy who has systematically booked then cancelled for months has done it again.
When I met him a few times, I knew deep down there was something unhinged about him. But, alas, I needed the money. I think I haven't blocked him as I find his behaviour weirdly fascinating.
But I won't reply to the bum wipe ever again.
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;D I will eventually get there. Thank you for great empathy. :-*
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Like most girls if a reg starts to mess me around they get blocked. Just like the one who had a booking 15 mins ago (he confirmed this morning) and hasn't even bothered to show up. >:(
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Like most girls if a reg starts to mess me around they get blocked. Just like the one who had a booking 15 mins ago (he confirmed this morning) and hasn't even bothered to show up. >:(
Just be aware, and I know that not every person dies, that I did once have a regular suddenly die. We didn't have a confirmation routine, because he always showed, then one day he didn't. I was fuming, and wondering. A week or so later his story was in the local paper.
Felt terrible.
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Like most girls if a reg starts to mess me around they get blocked. Just like the one who had a booking 15 mins ago (he confirmed this morning) and hasn't even bothered to show up. >:(
Awww, that's horrible, Dexi.
Some men do seem to "premeditate" his action based on his usual modus operandi without us, escorts, initially, totally unaware. They know they are prone to play head games, to keep themselves amused.
I have to say, though, whilst there are some very decent customers, who DO exist (perhaps, "some" well mannered married guys/"some" decent mature gents), there are other types of men, who seem to think we ought to be giving it away for free after 2-3 times that they paid, and "the rest should be free". They seem to start playing head games, suggests bookings and not following through etc. I wondered if these are sometimes, men, who are perpetually unattached / "bored" (reasons tend to be found in their own behaviour) and rejected by decent civvie women, who would refuse to put up with their games, lies, dishonesty in her civvie life. Civvie women can easily tell men, who just want to get laid without any long-term commitments or men who would habitually behind their back and get caught e.g. no concept of monogamy whilst men would promise "the future together" to get sex. These lies would continue even when they are dealing with WGs, which is pretty crazy.
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Just be aware, and I know that not every person dies, that I did once have a regular suddenly dies.
Felt terrible.
Sadly, we all die eventually. We don't know when. Best to look after yourself. :) But, I appreciated how traumatic it could be when it happens. Whenever I see someone very old, I think about this. He probably had a good enough life to see escorts when needed/wanted. Not a bad life.
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Sadly, we all die eventually. We don't know when. Best to look after yourself. :) But, I appreciated how traumatic it could be when it happens. Whenever I see someone very old, I think about this. He probably had a good enough life to see escorts when needed/wanted. Not a bad life.
He wasn't old, he wasn't unhealthy. A complete surprise.
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Like most girls if a reg starts to mess me around they get blocked. Just like the one who had a booking 15 mins ago (he confirmed this morning) and hasn't even bothered to show up. >:(
He showed 20mins late. Was extremely apologetic, explaining why, and even paid for the time he was late. Bless him. Feel like a total bitch now. Which I am, but only in the right context ;)
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He showed 20mins late. Was extremely apologetic, explaining why, and even paid for the time he was late. Bless him. Feel like a total bitch now. Which I am, but only in the right context ;)
That's the problem, so many cry wolves, we hear it all then when it's genuine..................
I've probably posted about this earlier in the thread, had a regular who chopped, changed, cancelled, just about every one of the many bookings he made with me. Then he had a real crisis, and I had to say "I'm sorry but all the other messing, it's added up and I can't accept this one now". We did have one final booking before I stopped outcalls (he can only do incalls), during which I explained that because of his past behaviour I'd been really uptight and apprehensive before this, and previous bookings, which was a real shame because it took much of the enjoyment out of it for me.
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I have had a client (wouldn't call him a punter) who spent a great amount of money on me. I enjoyed his company and from what he expressed to me, the feeling was mutual.
On two recent occasions he has made repeat bookings and on the day we were due to meet I heard nothing from him? Now I would never chase a no show - but as the fee due was ;D and we did gel I did chase it up and on both occasions he gave me reassurances and promises of "something got in the way and I'll make it up to you next time".
Said prior meet did take place over 3 days and during that time I listened more than I spoke. I gleaned that he had seen a particular lady and enjoyed the encounter to the extent that he mentioned (more then once) that he had perhaps seen her. She obviously left a positive impression on him and kudos to her as she charges way more than I do! So in reflection - I can only deduce that she is back in town and I must have been his plan B incase his first choice couldn't meet him?
Im not pissed but perhaps annoyed that he thinks I need him so much that It will bother me to the point that I'm annoyed with him or he thinks so little of me that he can make arrangements and not follow through? It even crossed my mind that he may feel that as we got on so well that I would see him for no charge and not command my fee? Fuck that...he wont get the privilege of fucking up my day or night by attempting to conjure feelings that in MY reality don't even exist.
Outside of the time a client pays for my company, for my sanity that client is non-existent - particularly if they cant even afford me the decency of treating me as they would expect me to treat them? I wouldn't accept a booking if I had no intention of following through, nor would I begin to court drama and stress in their private life as a result of a no show?
I haven't blocked that client as Im not short of work and yes his booking would have been grand but Im still earning and his booking would have only been a very very nice bonus.
I wont ever overlook a booking if he makes contact again. I cant lie I wont block him as a successful booking with him means if I don't work for a month (which I would in any case) my target for that month would be met.
I did have a regular that I did have to remove from my psyche/ as the drama he wanted to court was not worth my time. I did not want or need him in my life as I found him borderline malicious and furthermore it/he didn't pay me nearly enough( two hour meet) to even entertain his nonsense.
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Regulars are now starting to get on my nerves!!! :FF
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Yup. I thought one minute, a regular would be reliable. He cancelled on the day and I turned someone else away already. :-\
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Im not pissed but perhaps annoyed that he thinks I need him so much that It will bother me to the point that I'm annoyed with him or he thinks so little of me that he can make arrangements and not follow through?
you mean, he booked and no showed? Not even, "Ah, sorry, I have to cancel"? If your gut is telling you that you were only his Plan B, this could well be true. I have been there, done that, wore my T shirt. Anyone can be someone's plan B. You were messed around. Maybe, his logic could be, "I paid you enough by now, so be understanding." Lack of respect is there. Yup, he became your TW from being a regular.
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No he didn't apologise at all or even cancel beforehand?! He is now listed in my phone as 'arsehole'. :FF
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No he didn't apologise at all or even cancel beforehand?!
It amazes me that he booked and no showed! Yes, it's clear that he's not a nice guy. It sounds as if he did it, deliberately. Men are known to be capable of being crueller than a woman would be, generally speaking, of course. Let's see if he would resurface in a month time when his Plan A had enough of him/kicked him out. :)
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I can't lie if did get in contact - I would halfheartedly accept as the money I would get from the booking would more than make up for it.
He paid me very handsomely and for that I won't block him just yet 😉
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AND He knows that. ;) Thank you for sharing. :-*