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KhaleesiMasseur

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This massage agency I'm working with...
« on: 02 March 2017, 03:21:18 pm »
Hey girls. I'm a newbie, I got into this because my uni is stressing me to pay my fees. So I'm pretty eager to begin work. I'm having a stressful start. I responded to a few ads on CL about erotic massages with no penetration. This seemed perfect for me. I decided to work with a woman. She seemed ok. We met in a public place and then she gave me a start date. She has an apartment in London. All I have to do is show up and wait for her to send me a client. I started 'working' yesterday. According to her I had some calls but two wanted sex, the other flaked and another wanted to bring his gf with him which the agency said they don't allow. Working today as well and I've had no clients so far. It's frustrating because I spend money to travel here and she made it seem like she is always busy. And that I would have 2/3 customers on a slow/normal day. I finish at 8 so maybe I might get a few but I doubt it.

In another situation, I met up with a man for an interview for a massage job after work last night . He was another one of the ads I responded to. I had to perform on him to see if I was right for the job. I don't know if that's normal but he kinda pissed me off. Especially because he started to finger me which I told him to stop. I don't see how touching me was part of the assessment ::) . Now my gut feeling is telling me that he was just a creep.  I'm mad at myself for allowing such vulnerability. I had ignored him for a few days after he replied to my response to his ad. I was having second thoughts because I wasn't comfortable with him being a man and all.  But I was so upset that I had 0 clients yesterday that I decided to meet him. He said that he has two more girls to interview and that I could contact him on Tuesday to discuss job details. I don't know if he's legit but I'm not performing on him again. He either pays me for that or he finds me clients.

 I would love to be independent but I can't use my student pad and I can't afford my own outcall place right now. I wouldn't mind outcall but I'm apprehensive about screening and the fact that I can't afford a second phone (for a work number)right now. Does anyone know any proper massage agencies that I can work with that don't pressure you to have sex with clients? I would have started escorting but sex is painful for me. My first experience was shitty. It wasn't rape,he just didn't know what he was doing. So I haven't bothered to try again. I'm sexual, I just don't like penetration ATM. But I'm working on that with a vanilla guy.  I need to do massage work for now. Im thinking of going to massage parlours on Saturday looking for work. Maybe that will have better results than responding to ads online. Any recommendations for parlours I can visit in London?

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« Reply #1 on: 02 March 2017, 05:49:14 pm »
I had to perform on him to see if I was right for the job. I don't know if that's normal but he kinda pissed me off. Especially because he started to finger me which I told him to stop. I don't see how touching me was part of the assessment ::) . Now my gut feeling is telling me that he was just a creep.  I'm mad at myself for allowing such vulnerability.

No, it's not ok. It is more common than it should be and such predators look for new people to exploit. No-one is born knowing some of this stuff.

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Does anyone know any proper massage agencies that I can work with that don't pressure you to have sex with clients? .. Any recommendations for parlours I can visit in London?

Some of the 'no sex, just massage' agencies are lying (they expect sex) and some are just slimy in the way you've already experienced. Some are even both, but if anyone knows of one that isn't, they will be able to message you privately.

For parlours, if you're prepared to have oral sex, you're more likely to find somewhere. Masturbating the client is going to be expected by almost all of them. They tend to operate with a strict menu of services and if intercourse isn't on it and paid for, it doesn't happen.
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« Reply #2 on: 02 March 2017, 06:27:28 pm »
There is no such thing as a no sex massage in the sex industry, clients do not just want to take you out to dinner etc. So once you get your head around what exactly it is you want to do and how far you are prepared to go the best thing I personally can advise is go independent. 

A bonafide "manager" will not expect you to perform on them to prove your skills etc.  So if you decide to stay with agencies make sure you are not being ripped off when it comes to not only your money but also your images and your personal information.

If you do decide to go independent, we are here to help you and steer you in the right direction that will not only make your life easier but you will be in control of not only your time, money but also what you are prepared to do and when you decide to slip out of the industry you will not have the worry of an agency still having control of your image etc.

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« Reply #3 on: 02 March 2017, 06:41:19 pm »
The guy you met was a creep who took advantage of you being new to the sex industry. There are dirtbags like this who do this kind of thing. Please don't think it was a vulnerability thing on your part, very few of us find ourselves in a position where we know who to speak to when we first start out. You don't have to 'audition' or 'interview' for people. What I will say though is that there's plenty of things I did when I first started out that if I knew then what I know now, I would have done totally differently. Don't be hard on yourself.

I have always been independent so couldn't point you in the direction of parlours, but I do know that there are escorts who offer no penetration and manage to do just fine. Without being crude, some men can't have penetrative sex for a variety of reasons and they are quite happy with oral etc. Even if you aren't comfortable with that, there are, I believe, people who offer massages with hand relief. My understanding is that there are women who also do this independently although I understand that this isn't an option for you (and I know how being a student in London can be particularly precarious with accommodation). My point is that it is doable, so please don't feel limited. Sex work is pretty multi faceted and you don't have to do things you don't feel comfortable with. I understand your reasons for explaining why you don't want to have penetrative sex but again, what I'm trying to say is it is your body, your boundaries, your rules. There are things I don't do within my work that other providers do. Men who want those things should and would go to other providers - happy days, problem solved.

This is the sex industry though - there is sex involved, even if it isn't penetrative sex.

I hope you get some help re London.

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« Reply #4 on: 02 March 2017, 06:55:55 pm »
Especially because he started to finger me which I told him to stop. I don't see how touching me was part of the assessment ::) .

Well done. You stated your boundary and made him stop. Yes he was a creep and will never ever have any clients for you, but at least he didn't get more out of you than you were prepared to offer. There are a lot of girls who enter this industry without any grasp of how to set and enforce boundaries, so you are starting from a position of strength!

Offering massage with happy ending is certainly possible to get a living wage from, however I don't know how busy you would be just doing incall. I don't have experience with parlours. Are you actually studying in London, or somewhere less expensive where you could potentially rent a hotel day room and advertise erotic massage?

As someone else said, if you're happy to give oral then that will improve your saleability.

one thing to note - it seems you are quite sexually inexperienced and your first experiences weren't great. If you carry on with sex work (and yes erotic massage is sex work) then please draw a line in your head between "work sex" and "personal sex".
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« Reply #5 on: 02 March 2017, 11:36:35 pm »
No, it's not ok. It is more common than it should be and such predators look for new people to exploit. No-one is born knowing some of this stuff.

Some of the 'no sex, just massage' agencies are lying (they expect sex) and some are just slimy in the way you've already experienced. Some are even both, but if anyone knows of one that isn't, they will be able to message you privately.

For parlours, if you're prepared to have oral sex, you're more likely to find somewhere. Masturbating the client is going to be expected by almost all of them. They tend to operate with a strict menu of services and if intercourse isn't on it and paid for, it doesn't happen.

I should have clarified that I meant no full sex. Of course oral, wanking etc is sex too. I'm open to oral with a condom. I'd never done it before my 'interview' with the creep. When I told him my thoughts about how oral with condom feels he said I could take it off :-\  I declined that offer lol. It's actually quite difficult. I love giving blow jobs but it's so shitty with a condom. I think I could handle it if the guy had a relatively small penis. Hand relief is no problem and I don't mind being naked and allowing clients to touch my breasts and ass. I have a meeting with a salon on Saturday. I'll make it clear I'm not open to penetrative sex so they shouldn't hire me if it's a must. I spoke to one of the salon people on the phone a few hours ago and they said they 'work for me' with promotion and a place to work. They just take most of the entrance fee and I handle my extras, prices and take all the money from that .  I'll see if that's just sweet talk.

I'm pissed at that creep. He really made a fool out of me  :FF  . Your comment made me feel better about it though. Thanks :)

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« Reply #6 on: 02 March 2017, 11:40:06 pm »
There is no such thing as a no sex massage in the sex industry, clients do not just want to take you out to dinner etc. So once you get your head around what exactly it is you want to do and how far you are prepared to go the best thing I personally can advise is go independent. 

A bonafide "manager" will not expect you to perform on them to prove your skills etc.  So if you decide to stay with agencies make sure you are not being ripped off when it comes to not only your money but also your images and your personal information.

If you do decide to go independent, we are here to help you and steer you in the right direction that will not only make your life easier but you will be in control of not only your time, money but also what you are prepared to do and when you decide to slip out of the industry you will not have the worry of an agency still having control of your image etc.

I will go independently eventually and I'll come here for advice and read old threads. I know sexual acts are required. I should have clarified in the OP I meant full penetrative sex.

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« Reply #7 on: 02 March 2017, 11:55:51 pm »
The guy you met was a creep who took advantage of you being new to the sex industry. There are dirtbags like this who do this kind of thing. Please don't think it was a vulnerability thing on your part, very few of us find ourselves in a position where we know who to speak to when we first start out. You don't have to 'audition' or 'interview' for people. What I will say though is that there's plenty of things I did when I first started out that if I knew then what I know now, I would have done totally differently. Don't be hard on yourself.

I have always been independent so couldn't point you in the direction of parlours, but I do know that there are escorts who offer no penetration and manage to do just fine. Without being crude, some men can't have penetrative sex for a variety of reasons and they are quite happy with oral etc. Even if you aren't comfortable with that, there are, I believe, people who offer massages with hand relief. My understanding is that there are women who also do this independently although I understand that this isn't an option for you (and I know how being a student in London can be particularly precarious with accommodation). My point is that it is doable, so please don't feel limited. Sex work is pretty multi faceted and you don't have to do things you don't feel comfortable with. I understand your reasons for explaining why you don't want to have penetrative sex but again, what I'm trying to say is it is your body, your boundaries, your rules. There are things I don't do within my work that other providers do. Men who want those things should and would go to other providers - happy days, problem solved.

This is the sex industry though - there is sex involved, even if it isn't penetrative sex.

I hope you get some help re London.


Thanks for this. At least I know to stay away from him now. He already started saying I might need practice before I was sent to clients smh. I'm going to be looking for parlours this weekend.  I should have clarified and said no 'full sex'.

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« Reply #8 on: 02 March 2017, 11:57:59 pm »
Well done. You stated your boundary and made him stop. Yes he was a creep and will never ever have any clients for you, but at least he didn't get more out of you than you were prepared to offer. There are a lot of girls who enter this industry without any grasp of how to set and enforce boundaries, so you are starting from a position of strength!

Offering massage with happy ending is certainly possible to get a living wage from, however I don't know how busy you would be just doing incall. I don't have experience with parlours. Are you actually studying in London, or somewhere less expensive where you could potentially rent a hotel day room and advertise erotic massage?

As someone else said, if you're happy to give oral then that will improve your saleability.

one thing to note - it seems you are quite sexually inexperienced and your first experiences weren't great. If you carry on with sex work (and yes erotic massage is sex work) then please draw a line in your head between "work sex" and "personal sex".

Yeah, I realised the incall thing isn't working. I had no clients at all. The three other girls were the same. Only one of them got a single client. So I think I'll leave that woman. I was thinking about that personal and work thing. I went on a date tonight and I enjoyed it. To be fair, I liked his personality but I was thinking about how much money he could spend on me if he got comfortable. I clearly stated I liked generous men and he was cool with it. Is that my work mind or my personal one?  ;D

I'm not that sexually experienced. I've done sexual things but not really full sex. I've even done sexually things for money but I kinda just fell into that lol. I didn't even notice I was doing it if that makes sense.  :-\
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« Reply #9 on: 04 March 2017, 11:59:59 pm »
Be careful with the incall thing too as it is a brothel she is running which is illegal....

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« Reply #10 on: 05 March 2017, 12:06:23 am »
I have a meeting with a salon on Saturday.

How did your meeting go?
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« Reply #11 on: 05 March 2017, 07:07:43 pm »
How did your meeting go?

It went well. It's a salon that does normal stuff but the owner allows the girls to do their own thing

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« Reply #12 on: 05 March 2017, 07:08:39 pm »
Be careful with the incall thing too as it is a brothel she is running which is illegal....

I've stopped working with her. She was useless

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« Reply #13 on: 13 March 2017, 09:10:19 pm »
Get a sim card swap it into your normal phone for the day make an AW account, offer outcalls only within a 10 mile radius, your first 2/3 jobs will pay for everything else you need, TAKE BOOKINGS ONLY FROM ADULTWORK MEMBERS WITH POSITIVE ESCORT feedback (be the best you can be so they leave you feedback0, thats how I started, believe me you can do it, I used to do a couple of outcalls a week, then started booking hotels for incalls, now work from an apartment. Treat your clients special, they will come back  especially of your doing massage. Treat them good, build up feedback, the feedback will ensure you do very well x