Author Topic: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit... (Read 7214 times)

improbablecats · « **Reply #15 on:** 18 June 2012, 08:50:31 pm »

I would say offer a 30 minute appointment. A lot of guys now go for a half hour with a new lady to see if they get along before booking anything longer. In order to try and hang on to some of the hour bookings, you might consider adjusting your prices so that an hour seems like a much better deal? It's up to you whether you make your 30 minute quite expensive or your hour a little cheaper, but don't fiddle with the prices too much, as it makes clients suspicious that you're not busy or you're not very professional (and they may think they can haggle! L'horror!). I adjusted mine a bit when I first started and haven't touched them since.

It does take time to get busy these days, I presume because guys are less willing to take risks on new girls if they've got less cash to lose on girls who may or may not be good (I'm sure you're awesome, but they don't know that if you haven't got much feedback

). Personally I didn't see the 'new girl' rush that everyone talks about when I started working before xmas last year, but once I put together a really polished profile on AW and a good website, and splashed out ?350 on some professional photos, and had a review or two, things began to get so busy that I'm now able to really choose my clients carefully and I enjoy my work a lot more as a result. Despite this, even once you're a bit more established you will still have quiet times. I had a dead week, followed by a week where the phone rang off the hook (and naturally, I was rolling around clutching my stomach and trying to put as many tampons as possible inside myself ... sod's law.)

I began with almost nothing, so I can sympathise if you're reading this advice and thinking 'I can't afford expensive photos or a fancy website' ... The photos may have to wait (although, as someone's already said, you can start off with some taken by an amateur until you've built up some capital) but a website doesn't cost much if you write your own content. Emily and Ian, mods on the board here, made mine and it's really excellent and was incredibly inexpensive.

Don't lose heart. If you want any more advice or maybe another pair of eyes to take a glance over an AW profile or proto-website, just PM me. I'm trying not to blow my own trumpet here, but I'm pretty sure my shiny AW profile and my chirpy website are the main reasons I'm busy.

Sarita · « **Reply #16 on:** 18 June 2012, 08:56:17 pm »

Some good advice here I think. I'm in the same position in that I can't work from home and I don't have an incall flat these days and it can be tough, even though I'm well established and have good feedback and regulars.

I'd give webcamming a go if I were you. You can do it from home where your children aren't there, so if you have a weekend where no-one has booked you can just get camming instead. Alternatively, if you're in a hotel and only have one booking which has covered your costs, you can fire up the cam and get yourself into profit.
Camming can be dead, just like escorting, but then you hit a busy patch and the money comes rolling in.

I'm not suggesting it's a great way to get clients, but I've had a few really good bookings with guys who then come back on cam and it's a good way to get feedback too, as cam clients tend to leave a lot! It's not the same as escort feedback, but at least guys know you're real and not a scammer.

Other than that I agree with those who suggest you get a website and advertise elsewhere too. You really need to get out there. Oh and one more thing is to try and find someone else in your area who could share the hotel costs with you (or maybe someone who is touring your area).
Good luck!

improbablecats · « **Reply #17 on:** 18 June 2012, 08:57:38 pm »

Quote from: Sarita on 18 June 2012, 08:56:17 pm

Some good advice here I think. I'm in the same position in that I can't work from home and I don't have an incall flat these days and it can be tough, even though I'm well established and have good feedback and regulars.

I'd give webcamming a go if I were you. You can do it from home where your children aren't there, so if you have a weekend where no-one has booked you can just get camming instead. Alternatively, if you're in a hotel and only have one booking which has covered your costs, you can fire up the cam and get yourself into profit.
Camming can be dead, just like escorting, but then you hit a busy patch and the money comes rolling in.

I'm not suggesting it's a great way to get clients, but I've had a few really good bookings with guys who then come back on cam and it's a good way to get feedback too, as cam clients tend to leave a lot! It's not the same as escort feedback, but at least guys know you're real and not a scammer.

Other than that I agree with those who suggest you get a website and advertise elsewhere too. You really need to get out there. Oh and one more thing is to try and find someone else in your area who could share the hotel costs with you (or maybe someone who is touring your area).
Good luck!

Oh, yes, agree with everything Sarita's just said.

And I have gotten quite a few clients through webcamming. It's like advertising, except that you get paid while you do it. Win-win really.

Sarita · « **Reply #18 on:** 18 June 2012, 09:12:06 pm »

Quote from: improbablecats on 18 June 2012, 08:57:38 pm

Oh, yes, agree with everything Sarita's just said.

And I have gotten quite a few clients through webcamming. It's like advertising, except that you get paid while you do it. Win-win really.

I agree with everything you've just said too! I agree particularly with the bit about photos. I think they are the hardest thing to get right and it amazes me that so many women go to the effort of setting up a website and AW profile and then have photos that are frankly diabolical.
That doesn't mean you should spend ?350 if you haven't got it, but if an enthusiastic amateur takes them or you take them yourself, make sure they're good.

Lady_Lust_XXX · « **Reply #19 on:** 18 June 2012, 09:41:04 pm »

Webcamming is another way of making money but not whilst you are in a hotel and using their internet connection, it is a sure way to get yourself noticed as it 'makes the meter go round and round' so to speak and can be the cause of you being asked to leave the hotel.

Many girls did not realise this and wondered why they were put out of hotels when they had only seen one or two guys one day and one guy another day. What I'm saying is, try and be responsible and discreet and it should all work out for you. May mean you using a dongle for camming but better safe than sorry.

April Showers · « **Reply #20 on:** 18 June 2012, 09:44:52 pm »

Quote from: bananamuffin on 18 June 2012, 07:53:21 pm

Hey Natalie: The thing is if I do 30 min in calls, I'll end up owing money lol!! I am doing an offer for these this week all week - got NO calls AT ALL. NOTHING that I do is working! Less availability, more availability, less opportunity for guys to book on the phone, more opportunities for guys to book by phone - nothing seems to be making any difference. 30n min bookings are fine by me but it it's an in call it's got to be 2 or 3 of them or it's just a total loss leader.

Lili69: 8 bookings in a week? I've not had this since mid-May nor in a month let alone in a week!!! Christ, I'd be made up if I had that many!!!! God, you're so lucky!! I only want about 4-6 hours of work a week, i don't really need any more - but I can't even get that.

Jesus, I can't make my civvie self employed business work, I can't get a job, and apparently I can't make as a prostitute either!

But seriously, I need to figure out what is wrong so I can change it and start getting bookings.

I just CANNOT work from my home where my children live, I just couldn't do it.

I've not really looked into reverse bookings but the next weekend I'm child-free I will look a bit more into it and how it works etc in case that's a way in for me to just get more - and get some fb's/field reports.

Thanks guys. x

weekends are the quiestest time to work from hotels ( imo )

week days best .......but that isnt constant either

what area are you in .................as different things are better in certain areas

I will disgress with other opinions and say pics and words get you so far ...............................You have to sell yourself meaning you have to seal the deal ( phone call )and make the guy want to book YOU ...............

I know this ( as so ) due to my many years of working in parlours (having) and who answers your phone is just as important as the girl who works it .
ie if shit monotone and boring the best girl would have a shit day............vibrant friendly fun with dog rough girl busier than should be

it is a package ;-p

p.s i know a lot of girls work off emails as well.................................i would be a destitute prostitute if i had to relie on written small talk as i am always in a rush and i find it time consumming .. eek

DiamondQT · « **Reply #21 on:** 18 June 2012, 09:58:02 pm »

I agree wit sarita. I am a parent my self of 2, one is 5 and one is 2.
I'm not sure if you offer out calls during the week or not so I'm going to stick to incalls-
If you can find a hotel cheaper that will cut your cost if not then i wouldn't bother doing a hotel incall for just one person, in the long run if that continues then you will just end up feeling shit about yourself and still not have the money you need coming in.
You need at least 2 1hour clients to make it worth it i would say, you can accept half hours after that if you want to but i would be careful with that if you use the same hotel alot, but that is another issue..
I'm not sure if you webcam at the moment, but you should try it as a bit of advertisement maybe, or more seriously on other sites than AW because for the money your taking home after escorting the way you are now you could be making at home on cam while your kids are tucked up in bed for FREE, whatever you make is immediately profit at least.
You can and should still advertise your weekend availability as much as you can but at least if you can cam in the evenings you will be making something as and when you can instead of holding out for escort bookings.

BaudelaireGirl · « **Reply #22 on:** 18 June 2012, 10:55:01 pm »

Quote from: casey_kisses on 18 June 2012, 08:31:57 pm

Quote from: Green Carnation on 18 June 2012, 08:19:13 pm
I think it's not your availability that's the problem. If you are literally getting no calls or emails I think your profile is not attractive enough to the clients. i am not saying you are unattractive - i am sure you are gorgeous, and you sound really lovely
Do you have nice photos? That is probably the biggest attraction + a well written description. I think your profile might be too plain, and is not attracting anybody. If you have a trusted friend ( or even a trusted client at the end of an incall) who can take some nice photos of you ( with your own camera of course). Get some cheap, colourfull stuff from Primark, underwear, nice dresses, heels. Do your hair, and get some snaps taken! Photos are very very important, and once you upload them, you will see how suddenly guys will be adjusting their availability to yours

I completely second this. In fact I was thinking this the other day on your other thread. If you want you can post your AW link on your profile so we can have a nosey
Also I think maybe it's time to think about setting up a website/ branching out from AW.

xx

I agree massively with both these ladies. Certainly changes I made to my profile (just rewording and new photos) made a huge difference when I was starting. As for price, it may seem counter-productive, but to me it makes a bit of sense to undercut your main competition by just a little until you are more established. However, I understand this is tricky for you when you have to cover a hotel. Getting your profile bang on is definitely the most important thing. My photos are taken at home, and I have found a lot of guys like this. They are done with a very good camera though so are good quality, but being amateur means I can give them a little more personality which seems to help. I did a few with me in various 50s housewife poses and they get mentioned nearly every enquiry!

Stay positive, you are not beaten yet and with a determined attitude it is still possible to succeed in this industry. Chin up love

bananamuffin · « **Reply #23 on:** 19 June 2012, 06:22:47 am »

Quote from: Lady_Lust_XXX on 18 June 2012, 09:41:04 pm

Webcamming is another way of making money but not whilst you are in a hotel and using their internet connection, it is a sure way to get yourself noticed as it 'makes the meter go round and round' so to speak and can be the cause of you being asked to leave the hotel.

Many girls did not realise this and wondered why they were put out of hotels when they had only seen one or two guys one day and one guy another day. What I'm saying is, try and be responsible and discreet and it should all work out for you. May mean you using a dongle for camming but better safe than sorry.

Already offer DirectIM and when I'm at home and have ANY time where I can get the computer to myself and the littlies aren't around, I can do that. But I'm honestly not sure if I could webcam simply because of showing my face? Which I don't want to do.

I also advertise on punternet, uk belles, punterlink, my-local-escort, and have my own website, with professional pics on any on which I have a picture.

Thank you to everyone for all the views and ideas - and support. I would't be getting so hyper if it were not for my overall money situation - that's the entire driving factor in this. I NEVER came into this expecting to earn thousands a week let alone thousands a month - I just want to come away with a few hundred quid a week in my back pocket - that's all lol!!!

Am I being divvy, but how can you share a double hotel room with someone else (as I say, probably just been stupid here!!).

xx

ParisB · « **Reply #24 on:** 19 June 2012, 09:21:25 am »

Quote from: Sarita on 18 June 2012, 09:12:06 pm

Quote from: improbablecats on 18 June 2012, 08:57:38 pm

Oh, yes, agree with everything Sarita's just said.

And I have gotten quite a few clients through webcamming. It's like advertising, except that you get paid while you do it. Win-win really.

lol i remember seeing a woman charging 200 pounds an hour nothing wrong with that however it was April easter time and she had photos of her in her living room with the christmas tree up i do think that if your charging that sort of money at least get semi decent photos or think is it really appropriate to have photos of you next to the xmas tree at easter to me it screams cheap cant be bothered but i want your money
I get mine done every 3 -4 months and i rotate them and i put them out there everywhere so that they can be found because those guys might be at some point passing through where i live and see me

I agree with everything you've just said too! I agree particularly with the bit about photos. I think they are the hardest thing to get right and it amazes me that so many women go to the effort of setting up a website and AW profile and then have photos that are frankly diabolical.
That doesn't mean you should spend ?350 if you haven't got it, but if an enthusiastic amateur takes them or you take them yourself, make sure they're good.

ParisB · « **Reply #25 on:** 19 June 2012, 09:32:40 am »

your a perfect example of how this business has changed over the last few years doing everthing you can and still not making any real money

This business shouldnt be like this it should be realitivly easy money for 99 percent of us ( thats why we do it )
I dont have much to say because everyone is saying exactly what i wrote to you in my pm and you seem to be doing it

without reviews it seem that a lot of guys are not willing to take chances on newbiews especially at high prices and i would agree with the others that webcaming and phone chat would be ideal if you can maybe try to swop the way you live around ie work nights when kids are in bed and sleep in the day after you have taken them to school or maybe some camming /phone chat

A friend of mine dose this and she dose really well she cams from 10pm -2am tue wed thur fri and weekends and makes several hundred pounds a week from it after adultworks cut
She has picked up a lot of escort bookings as well from it as she has her profile as escorting as well
she takes her kids to school then sleeps from 9am to when she has to pick them back up dose all the housework/kids stuff untill 9pm then goes back on cam
weekends when she dont have the kids she escorts

Sarita · « **Reply #26 on:** 19 June 2012, 09:41:48 am »

Quote from: bananamuffin on 19 June 2012, 06:22:47 am

Already offer DirectIM and when I'm at home and have ANY time where I can get the computer to myself and the littlies aren't around, I can do that. But I'm honestly not sure if I could webcam simply because of showing my face? Which I don't want to do.

I also advertise on punternet, uk belles, punterlink, my-local-escort, and have my own website, with professional pics on any on which I have a picture.

Thank you to everyone for all the views and ideas - and support. I would't be getting so hyper if it were not for my overall money situation - that's the entire driving factor in this. I NEVER came into this expecting to earn thousands a week let alone thousands a month - I just want to come away with a few hundred quid a week in my back pocket - that's all lol!!!

Am I being divvy, but how can you share a double hotel room with someone else (as I say, probably just been stupid here!!).

xx

Well you don't need to show your face on cam if you don't want to. I only show mine in private shows, not group (and I don't do freeview at all).

On the hotel sharing thing, yes you are being a divvy

You can't do it if you're mad busy, but if you were busy you wouldn't need to.
When one of you has a booking the other leaves and when she has a booking you leave! If you're working near home you could just stay at home and go to the hotel when you need to.
An apartment works better for this, obviously, but they can be pricey which defeats the object.

annieo · « **Reply #27 on:** 19 June 2012, 10:10:32 am »

Hi bananamuffin - how many hits a day are you getting on your AW profile? That can be a good indication how well your profile is being viewed.

annieo · « **Reply #28 on:** 19 June 2012, 10:16:51 am »

Also - when you search for your profile within your local area what page do you appear on. The more you edit your profile the higher up the page(s) you appear.

bananamuffin · « **Reply #29 on:** 19 June 2012, 11:44:41 am »

Quote from: annieo on 19 June 2012, 10:10:32 am

Hi bananamuffin - how many hits a day are you getting on your AW profile? That can be a good indication how well your profile is being viewed.

I don't know - where do you see this information on there??? I've seen it at odd times but don't know where to go to find it.

See also the main SAAFE.info site for more Support And Advice For Escorts

Author Topic: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit... (Read 7214 times)

improbablecats

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

Sarita

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

improbablecats

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

Sarita

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

Lady_Lust_XXX

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

April Showers

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

DiamondQT

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

BaudelaireGirl

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

bananamuffin

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

ParisB

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

ParisB

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

Sarita

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

annieo

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

annieo

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...

bananamuffin

Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...