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bananamuffin

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Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« on: 18 June 2012, 06:32:32 pm »
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I charge ?150, then I have to take off:

?10 - travel
?15 - babysitter
?60 - room

that doesn't leave a lot does it  :(

Still, I suppose I should look upon it as one more chance to get a booking who leaves some feedback. I know I won't get another booking to dove-tail onto this one...  I've not had any such luck since I started in May! I wouldn't mind to get 2 or 3 hours of bookings but just one at a time is a very poor profit option.

Am wondering whether to say I only do 1.5 hour appts for in-calls, to offset the hotel costs (then I'll probably end up with even less bookings (which would put me somewhere in the minus numbers  ::))).





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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #1 on: 18 June 2012, 06:40:57 pm »
Sadly with the economic climate the way it is and more and more girls coming into the industry and saturating it there is less work for everyone.

In Scotland it is very unlikely you would get ?150 per hour so really the profit that you have made is far more sizable than it would be up here and hotels (prossie friendly ones) are no cheaper than ?60 and in many cases are more costly.

It is best to look on the fact that you did make an actual profit and not on the fact that it wasnt as much as you would have liked.  Frustrating but just the way business is nowadays.  :(
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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #2 on: 18 June 2012, 06:42:46 pm »
Like you said you need at least a couple of bookings to make hotel incalls worthwhile. You started in May, you?re offering incalls and your rates sound reasonable so I?m not sure why more bookings aren?t forthcoming. Are you working around limited availability?

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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #3 on: 18 June 2012, 06:52:44 pm »
D.3, I've been doing this every other weekend since mid May. First weekend I had 1 1 hr and 1 30 min. Next alternate weekend I had 1 30 min booking. Since then I've had one 2 hr outcall. That's it.

I have to say (and NOT having a go at you at all, please don't think that) - but I can't seem to win!

when I was only doing every other weekend I was getting told that's no good it's not enough available time....

now I've made a lot of changes to ensure that I can a. now take calls for bookings between 9am and midday every weekday pretty much and b. so that I can work up to 4-5 evenings/nights a week - so really, I just feel I can't win really - now I'm too available?

I'm not getting enough calls/emails/bookings in the first place, to cajole them into just one night (and I hear you believe me, I'd love to do that and get 2 or 3 each time I book a hotel!!!!). If I've got to leave my kids (and essentially, it's them I'm trying to earn money for), I'd like to have a bit more to show for it really.

I get what you say L-L - the only way I can cope with it in my mind (bearing in mind what I NEED to earn in order to keep my house, my car etc) is to view it that hey who knows this could become a regular and hey who knows, they might leave good feedback and then that might help with the bookings....  so I'll probably do it and at least that's ?60 towards my groceries this week.

What's the general consensus of opinion on only doing 1.5 hr bookings for in-calls - that extra bit of cash would cover the cost of the hotel.....???? Or just too off-putting?

Alisha - I was at first only doing every other weekend til I realised that a lot of guys like a quick bit of how's your father on the way home in the week lol! I've just lost a customer from my daytime job so that I can take phone calls for bookings most mornings (which I couldn't do before) and now thanks to use of a babysitter I can do any weekday really. When I've got my kids I could work if it was say a 2 hour out call, but it's easier not to - on the alternate weekends when they go to their dads I'm available from 9.30pm on a Fri to Sun lunchtime and again, VERY little bookings. Don't really know what else to do.

Am touring in a couple of weeks (coinciding geographically with where I rendezvous with the ex to drop my kids to him!!!) and had offered ?60 30 mins special offer for this week - no takers. Short of offering 1 hr for ?70 or something, I don't know what else to do really.

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« Reply #4 on: 18 June 2012, 07:29:39 pm »
Hi Bananamuffin

I have a similar situation as you - I escort one evening a week and every weekend.  I find it varies - last week every spare moment I had was full of bookings - 8 in a week (which is a lot for me).  This week - nothing booked so far (cue tumbleweed.....).

Are you on AW? I know a lot of people hate the reverse bookings on the site, but I have found bidding for them can be somewhat successful.  I was lucky enough to find my best regular through applying for his reverse booking.   

Probably only about 25% of my business is gained by waiting for the clients to contact me.  Applying for RBs can be a bit soul destroying though and I certainly do not bid lower than the amount they specify.

Good luck hun - it can be a blooming frustrating business, that's for sure!!!

Lili xxx

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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #5 on: 18 June 2012, 07:32:04 pm »
Put a paper add on when doing your incalls ............... dont go for 1.5 hr bookings  try for 30mins and 1 hours till established  i have tons of regs but 30 mins and  1 hours............. if i said only apps of 1hr 30 mins i would be nearly as dead as you .

i find most guys ring on the day unless thay really want only YOU  ................. ( what area are you in )

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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #6 on: 18 June 2012, 07:52:22 pm »
@ BananaMuffin. 

I know it feels like a long hard slog ...... and it is ............ but you could be available 84 hours a week and it still wouldnt suit everyone, so really there is no such thing as being 'too available'.

It really takes a long long time to get established and like I've said  previously, the number of girls saturating the business does not help.  Everyone/many think you make up a profile/put an ad in a paper and sit back and take hundreds of calls and bookings galore .. sadly this is a myth.  It might have been like that 5/6 years ago but no longer ... not even for the established girls .... some of whom are struggling too.

All we can do is try and make our profiles more interesting than the next girls - don't ask me how to do this - if I knew I would bottle it !  It's really frustrating when you 'make yourself available for 'x' hours per day/week/month and you end up only getting a couple of bookings - it doesn't seem worthwhile at times - but we got to be grateful that we ARE actually getting bookings in - even if it is with a minimal profit.

Isnt NEED a horrible word and makes us feel so desperate but its the way of life nowadays with work  :(  and its difficult to say how 1.5 hr bookings would go with you.  Sometimes its difficult to get one hour bookings never mind longer.  A little bit here and there is better than nothing at all.  Sorry to sound like such a misery guts but many femmes come into the business thinking they are going to earn thousands of pounds a week and nowadays that just aint the case.  There is always the option of offering a 2 hour special rate booking - just something for you to think about.  Many girls do this and charge around the same price as about 1.5 hours and if truth be told many do not hang around for the two hours.

What I'm trying to say in a sorta stumbling sort of way is that we gotta take baby steps and not expect to be able to do a marathon the first year or so. 

I don't know how it is where you live but up in Scotland it is very much busier during the week like you said with guys getting their leg over on their way home from work.  Weekends can be dead.  The fact that the football is on just now every evening is not helping and when that finishes it will probably be the last week on the run up to pay day and dire as usual - gad why do we bother at times.

I wouldnt be too disheartened re not having any takers on your special offer for for many it is far too far ahead for them to be thinking - especially if it is just for 30 minutes bookings - would you rather have guys make bookings and then have to wait and see if they confirmed or wait till the time comes and get maybe more bookings than you are expecting.  What to do is when you are not working is to put your profile in the area you will be touring and letting guys know that you will be there in a couple of weeks.

Hope these little things help. xx Good Luck xx

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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #7 on: 18 June 2012, 07:53:07 pm »
Ok I read your reply several times and I think I understand the issues you?re dealing with and I can totally understand your frustration. It seems to me you?re being very proactive about your business but unfortunately this has yet to show in the results. There?s some great advice above and I agree with Natalie that it?s probably not a great idea to insist on 1.5 minimum booking length. Hope things improve for you x

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« Reply #8 on: 18 June 2012, 07:53:21 pm »
Hey Natalie: The thing is if I do 30 min in calls, I'll end up owing money lol!! I am doing an offer for these this week all week - got NO calls AT ALL. NOTHING that I do is working! Less availability, more availability, less opportunity for guys to book on the phone, more opportunities for guys to book by phone - nothing seems to be making any difference. 30n min bookings are fine by me but it it's an in call it's got to be 2 or 3 of them or it's just a total loss leader.

Lili69: 8 bookings in a week? I've not had this since mid-May nor in a month let alone in a week!!! Christ, I'd be made up if I had that many!!!! God, you're so lucky!! I only want about 4-6 hours of work a week, i don't really need any more - but I can't even get that.

Jesus, I can't make my civvie self employed business work, I can't get a job, and apparently I can't make as a prostitute either!

But seriously, I need to figure out what is wrong so I can change it and start getting bookings.

I just CANNOT work from my home where my children live, I just couldn't do it.

I've not really looked into reverse bookings but the next weekend I'm child-free I will look a bit more into it and how it works etc in case that's a way in for me to just get more - and get some fb's/field reports.

Thanks guys. x

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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #9 on: 18 June 2012, 07:54:51 pm »
I agree with Natalie that it?s probably not a great idea to insist on 1.5 minimum booking length. Hope things improve for you x

Thanks chick - I don't currently insist on the 1.5 hours - was just wondering if that's what I should be doing but if it's not a good idea, I won't; will stick with the 1 hr, 2 hr etc with some 30 minute options. xxxx

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« Reply #10 on: 18 June 2012, 08:00:26 pm »
Would you mind sharing where you?re based? Location is a big factor too. Try not to be too hard on yourself, as long as you?re doing the best you can, the rest is out of your control x

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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #11 on: 18 June 2012, 08:03:02 pm »
Hey Natalie: The thing is if I do 30 min in calls, I'll end up owing money lol!! I am doing an offer for these this week all week - got NO calls AT ALL. NOTHING that I do is working! Less availability, more availability, less opportunity for guys to book on the phone, more opportunities for guys to book by phone - nothing seems to be making any difference. 30n min bookings are fine by me but it it's an in call it's got to be 2 or 3 of them or it's just a total loss leader.

Lili69: 8 bookings in a week? I've not had this since mid-May nor in a month let alone in a week!!! Christ, I'd be made up if I had that many!!!! God, you're so lucky!! I only want about 4-6 hours of work a week, i don't really need any more - but I can't even get that.

Jesus, I can't make my civvie self employed business work, I can't get a job, and apparently I can't make as a prostitute either!

But seriously, I need to figure out what is wrong so I can change it and start getting bookings.

I just CANNOT work from my home where my children live, I just couldn't do it.

I've not really looked into reverse bookings but the next weekend I'm child-free I will look a bit more into it and how it works etc in case that's a way in for me to just get more - and get some fb's/field reports.

Thanks guys. x

I must admit I am not complaining about it not looking like I'm going to be busy this week - my lady bits are only just about recovered from all that shagging!  ha ha  :)  8 bookings in a week is very unusual for me, so don't get disheartened.  To be fair half of them were regulars that just happened to all want to see me that week.  Half term was dead as a dodo too...

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« Reply #12 on: 18 June 2012, 08:05:43 pm »
Would you mind sharing where you?re based? Location is a big factor too. Try not to be too hard on yourself, as long as you?re doing the best you can, the rest is out of your control x

So true Alisha, there is only so much we can do ............ the rest is down to the men ............ unfortunately !!
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Re: Hotel in-calling is ok, but where's my profit...
« Reply #13 on: 18 June 2012, 08:19:13 pm »
I think it's not your availability that's the problem. If you are literally getting no calls or emails I think your profile is not attractive enough to the clients. i am not saying you are unattractive - i am sure you are gorgeous, and you sound really lovely :)
Do you have nice photos? That is probably the biggest attraction + a well written description. I think your profile might be too plain, and is not attracting anybody. If you have a trusted friend ( or even a trusted client at the end of an incall) who can take some nice photos of you ( with your own camera of course). Get some cheap, colourfull stuff from Primark, underwear, nice dresses, heels. Do your hair, and get some snaps taken! Photos are very very important, and once you upload them, you will see how suddenly guys will be adjusting their availability to yours  :-*

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« Reply #14 on: 18 June 2012, 08:31:57 pm »
I think it's not your availability that's the problem. If you are literally getting no calls or emails I think your profile is not attractive enough to the clients. i am not saying you are unattractive - i am sure you are gorgeous, and you sound really lovely :)
Do you have nice photos? That is probably the biggest attraction + a well written description. I think your profile might be too plain, and is not attracting anybody. If you have a trusted friend ( or even a trusted client at the end of an incall) who can take some nice photos of you ( with your own camera of course). Get some cheap, colourfull stuff from Primark, underwear, nice dresses, heels. Do your hair, and get some snaps taken! Photos are very very important, and once you upload them, you will see how suddenly guys will be adjusting their availability to yours  :-*

I completely second this. In fact I was thinking this the other day on your other thread. If you want you can post your AW link on your profile so we can have a nosey  ;)
Also I think maybe it's time to think about setting up a website/ branching out from AW.

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