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Title: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 20 September 2008, 10:12:47 pm
Hey ,how are u im k thanks i just tryed a agency called wales escortes they asked me about my self and i asked some questiones. they told me that i would earn 100 and they take 30 only thing it cost me 40 for a taxi. and they want a pic of me and then they said ,that they would ring me when get to location and ,when i leave they would ring me i dont know what to do yet. be great if you could get b
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Lydia on 21 September 2008, 02:23:39 am
To me, I don't know about anyone else but that sounds a very low charge ?100 ph? I don't know if it's right for your area.. So what you're saying is you get left with ?70 of which you need to pay ?40 leaving you with ?30? That seems much to low.
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Louise on 21 September 2008, 08:16:17 am
I wouldnt say ?100 is  a low charge for an indi, it does depend on where you work ..for example I am ?100 per hour and have been for 4 years and have done fine
it may be a little low for an agency though,do you have a website for the agency?
x
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: brandy@saafe on 21 September 2008, 10:52:26 am
Hey ,how are u im k thanks i just tryed a agency called wales escortes they asked me about my self and i asked some questiones. they told me that i would earn 100 and they take 30 only thing it cost me 40 for a taxi. and they want a pic of me and then they said ,that they would ring me when get to location and ,when i leave they would ring me i dont know what to do yet. be great if you could get b

Imo, ?100 for agency work is too little, especially if they take 30% and expect you to pay your own travel fares. Way too little, even for Wales. They should either provide one of their drivers, which you pay a lesser fee to and they also act as security, or your hourly rate should be more.

.....I've just had a nosey around and googled Wales Escorts. There's an fr on Demi from the same agency and she charged ?130 for an hour. It says hour plus, but I'm assuming that just means they went over the alloted time.
There's definitely a discrepancy in what they pay escorts. I notice if you look at their website their "price per hour" is left blank.
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Welsh Lass on 21 September 2008, 11:47:57 am
Hey all, and in particular, Emily,
I am in Wales, as you might know. I have avoided agencies and gone independent.
I dislike the thought that they will take a cut from me when I am prepared to do all the marketing and garnering of clients myself. Even though I am going slow here, I am going, it is trickling in and things are slowly picking up now I hope.
I also wanted to be able to personally vet any clients I had for my own peace of mind.
However....
Emily, you are quite young and perhaps need the security an agency gives you. (No, I am not knocking the young ones, your all lovely  ;) )
For Emily in particular, you sound as if you worry a lot and need the help an agency can give to you as you start out. Somebody you can call in with before and after and the backup of a driver if you need it.

If you would like me to post you a book Emily, I have one here that might be of some use to you. It's very interesting and tells you the in's and out's of agency work, what to look out for and also what this line of work entails. I found the book a great help when I first considered doing escorting. I ended up going alone and not with an agency, but the book helped me to educate myself and become more aware of the risks, the pitfalls, the good times and the bad without frightening me, preaching to me and generally 'telling' me if you understand what I mean by that. It's a good read and you should take the time to read it I think.

If you want the book then PM me your address and I will post it out to you straight away. No I don't want anything for it. It will give me great peace of mind to know your reading up on this and creating a safer environment in which you can work.
Jo
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Little Diamond on 21 September 2008, 12:11:11 pm
Hi There,

I think that sounds poor . My agency is 150 per hour and goes up accordingly to 800-900 an overnight. They take 20% of the total of each booking. Taxi sounds a rip off.

This rates are fairly standard for Midlands.  Parlours less at 80-100 . I don't know how there commission rates work

Little Diamond
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Anika Mae on 21 September 2008, 12:34:31 pm
By taxi, do you mean an actual licensed taxi, or an escort driver? If it's the latter I agree that ?40 is too much for an hour, even if he waits for you (some don't!). I'm in Brighton and my driver charges ?20 for the first hour for local jobs.
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 21 September 2008, 01:12:59 pm
Its the licent taxi driver that coast 40 pound one way, im looking for a escort drive and secuerity every agency i phone they dont have these wales escorts said id have to pay my own taxi ,2.witch.is wrong because they should pay thinking of my safety . You must think i live at top of the mountain lol thanks again emily x
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Anika Mae on 21 September 2008, 01:57:06 pm
Well obviously if it's ?40 each way it's not going to work. You'll be down ?10.

The ?40 fee is a bit confusing to me, won't it depend on where you're going? Unless you really do live on top of a mountain, I'd expect some jobs to be closer to you and therefor cheaper to get to.

I'm surprised you haven't found an agency with a driver, it seems the agency situation there is a bit dire. Have you looked into parlour work, if you could find a good one in your area it would be more secure and convenient than going to people's houses.
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Post by: Sasha on 21 September 2008, 08:17:18 pm
An agency should provide you with security. Thats the main reason I'm with one and I pay the commission, - I know I'm been looked after.

Do they mean ?130 / hour, then leaving you with the ?100, perhaps? Also, as Anika Mae said if it's ?40 one way thats ?80, where the hell are they taking you?!?! You might need to re-email them and double check, find out how much you will come away with. The numbers don't seem to add up.

Or you could go indie, have u considered that? Also, a while ago, you asked if you have to have sex with a client if you're an escort... just want to see if you're ok with the sex side of it?

Sasha
xxx
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 21 September 2008, 08:55:41 pm
Hey it my fault i got bit mixed up its 40 to 50pound both ways my nearest town is swansea and that where the jobs areif i want the the job that how much i got to pay for a taxi. the wales agency said they would phone me when i get to the place and when i leave they they phone they said its 130 a hour  they take 30 every client they send me .
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Sasha on 21 September 2008, 09:10:54 pm
That doesnt sound too bad agency wise, considering you'd be coming out with ?100. But the taxi business is becasue I'm presuming you're not living in a very populated area, and most work is in a town or city, am I right to think this? It's up to you then because if you're happy coming out with ?50 for a an hour plus travelling time then fair enough, but I know I wouldnt be. Maybe you need to move somewhere busier? If you're in the middle of nowhere it's gonna be a pain. Maybe some of the ladies who don;t live in cities can help you further.
xxx
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 21 September 2008, 09:47:36 pm
There is not much escorting work around the wales area  i appled for a buddy with penny im waiting for her to find me sum 1 it bit of a rip off comeimg out with 50pound thanks again emily
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 21 September 2008, 09:55:48 pm
Hey whats it luk as a independants escort i may think of doing that
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: amy on 21 September 2008, 09:57:10 pm
It's been mentioned before Emily, but if transport and security are presenting you with problems, have you considered parlour work? There are at least a couple in Swansea which seem to be quite well thought of; you will only have to travel there and back at the start and end of your shift, you don't have to worry about security checks or finding where you are supposed to be going plus there will be other experienced ladies around to hopefully support you and offer a bit of advice - you will never be completely alone with a client either, which may make you feel a bit less nervous. I'll admit I've never done it, but I know I would have a well run house than an indifferent agency any day of the week.

I would think very carefully again about why you want to do this and consider exactly what this work involves - I'm trying really hard not to sound patronising, but your posts are almost childlike and the thought of you going haring off on your own to meet a potentially unpleasant or unscrupulous stranger in his home frightens me to death. If you are especially prone to getting 'a bit mixed up', this could cost you very dearly indeed if a situation goes bad - and it happens. Plus, if you don't think there is much work near you, why bother?

Have you thought of advertising for a driver in your local paper? I appreciate that you would have to tread a bit carefully but you never know. I think the going rate is about ?20-30 for the first hour (including getting you there and back, taking your security call at the start and end and discreetly waiting nearby whilst you are with your client) and then drops off for subsequent hours - I'm no expert but a client I had once was a part-time escort driver and that is what he said he charged.
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 21 September 2008, 10:13:23 pm
Hey i wouldnt say my post are childish at all i want to know plenty of info about the job i want security when on the job and i wont be puting a add in the local paper and everybody know what i be doing that be great.what do they do in palours im going to ask some more questiones to wales escort see what they to say nothing to lose at the end of the day the woman i spoke to was nice and give me some info
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: amy on 21 September 2008, 10:27:31 pm
I wasn't suggesting placing a 'Prostitute seeks driver' ad, just a 'discreet driver/security wanted' type small ad - you would need to carefully vet applicants (in much the same way as we do clients) and I agree it would be complicated but if you could find someone trustworthy and reliable it could be well worth it.

I didn't say childish - I said child-like; there's a difference. In parlours they do exactly what the rest of us do and what you apparently want to be doing - having sex of various kinds with complete strangers of all shapes, sizes and ages for money.
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 21 September 2008, 10:43:25 pm
Ok thanks i try and put a add in can you do me a fav and get me some contacts for paloures i can phone them en and ask questions . Thanks for the advice thanks emily if you like you can e mail me at roxychick88@hotmail.co.uk i can check my mail all the time coz i dont sit by a pc all the time im in colege and got wnrk to do thanks againg frm emily
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Nell2 on 21 September 2008, 10:51:44 pm
Hi Emily

I have not had time to read through all of your posts but note here you want some numbers of parlours in your area?

Perhaps you should log onto adultwork and do an agency/establishment search for your area - Wales is it ? Swansea?

I really hope you are going into this in the knowledge of what  you are doing.  We can help you here as much as is possible up front but after that once you are "out there" then you are on your own so to speak.

I am not trying in any way to sound condescending - this is just out of concerrn as was a previous mail to you which mentioned concern as well.

Good Luck
Alex xx
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Emily on 21 September 2008, 11:17:17 pm
Hey there alex i live in south wales in a town called neath my nearest town is swansea can you do me a fav and find out as much info about palour work if you like you could send me a e mail at roxychick88@hotmail.co.uk and i could tell you how im geting ond i cant check my mail all the time coz am at colege doing my course and i got course work to do thanks for the advie alex be great if you get back to me thanks againg frm emily
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: lexienight on 22 September 2008, 12:21:35 am
hi emily

Ive been on the network a week or so and although i find the advice the more experienced ladies offer is brilliant i have learned an awful lot by doing my own research.  I have had a scam agency called escortopia try to get money out of me (luckily i smelt a rat and from just looking at the posts on this site i had my suspisions confirmed) i also had an interview with an agency that i didnt feel comfortable with and with the help of ladies on here i was reassured that i didnt need to rush in to anything and i should take my time to either find an agency that i did like or go independent. 

Most of what i have learnt so far has been from small words of advice from the forum which i have then been able goo away and research for myself. 

One thing i have done is realised that i wasnt going to make the decision to start escorting and then start working the next day.  I have 2 jobs at the moment, its a bit of a joke amongst my friends that they get a copy of my rota at the begining of the week to see where they can fit in a coffee and a catch up or a drink down the pub.  Its not as easy as fitting the odd client in here and there.  I'm only saying this because you mention your course work and asking Alex to find parlours for you because your too busy.  I get home from work sometimes at 2am and then spend another 2 hours checking and vetting my emails, sorting the possible genuines from the time wasters, checking the forums, getting myself advertised in the right places, working out how to design websites, checking my rates are right for the area i live in. I then go back to work at 11am the next day.

Perhaps if your really that busy you should put it on hold until you have some time to really concentrate on setting up properly to ensure that when you do start (in a parlour, agency or independently) you are 100% ready to go.  I'm glad i have taken time to do my research because now i know im comfortable with what im about to embark on, what ever happens, good or bad, i know that its of my own doing and my decision to go ahead.

It really does take time to do it properly no matter what method you choose to go with and i think if you take the advice to search AW and other such sites you will find something that suits you best.

I think it might also be usefull if you were able to define what it is you want from a buddy.  I have emailed you before saying that i am really lucky in that one of the ladies took me under her wing and has helped me but by that i mean she was able to answer many of my questions about building my website and security questions.  I think the buddy system is meant as a resource of advice rather than a place to ask people to send you specific details on specific parlours etc.  i honestly feel that you will benifit from doing this research your self.  the way i think of it is that im starting a new business and whether im indie or using agencies etc, its still my business so i have to be in control of it.

I hope this helps.

Lexie
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Nell2 on 22 September 2008, 11:07:24 am
Emily

I have read briefly your reply to me in which you asked me to find out as much as I can about parlours.

Emily, as much as I am happy to help you within the time I have, you have to understand that if you want things in life then I am afraid you have to go out and find the info yourself.

I may sound a bit harsh here but asking me to look into this for you is a little cheeky dont you think!!!!  (Anyway, maybe you have a good attitude in that if you ask in life then you get, I suppose.)

But if you are serious in your efforts then you will have to do the groundwork yourself.  Sure we can help you and guide you as much as possible but there has to be some efforts from yourself not just us!!!

Lexie - has put it quite clearly to you as well and perhaps reading her mail thouroughly will give you an insight into how tough it is for so many of us here.

I myself, am a single parent, who came out of an abusive relationship.  I am a full time mother, escort as well as look after a disabled mother.  Nevertheless, I get on with things and dont ask anyone for anything - maybe I should do more!!!

Anyway, Emily - come onto the forum by all means but how serious are you really about escorting?  You seem to be asking a lot of questions and advice in a sort of haphazard way.  Perhaps you need to knuckle down and focus more on what you really want.

Escorting is very very tough - believe me and there are many pitfalls, obstacles in this business.

Please read through the home page thoroughly - at the end of the day we can only advise you but once you are out there then you are alone, totally.

Good luck with whatever you choose, but please don't cross the line when asking for advice. 

Love
Alex xx

Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Welsh Lass on 22 September 2008, 11:54:51 am
Hey Emily,
I think Amy has already given you contacts for Parlours in Swansea??

I don't have the time to look right now but a good starting point for you would be The Gentleman's club and it is right by the train station should you find it easier to catch a train to and from work.
There are others as well so please take the time to look them up.

We are all trying our best to help you out but you have to actually do some help yourself work with this.
Being a new to this business myself person, I know there is only so much help others can give you, you have to bite the bullet and find out information for yourself also.
Please call them and chat to them.
If you can not find a number for them then I will give you the number later on, but frankly, if you google The Gentleman's Club, Swansea, your going to get them no problem.
I agree with a few posts on this thread that you are going to be better off in a parlour working than out on your own, if you start off in a parlour then you can gain in confidence and also save some money to get your own transport plus you will meet other girls there and chat to them about your concerns and fears.
I have to run now but please think this over and give them a call.
Jo
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: Welsh Lass on 22 September 2008, 11:59:06 am
Neath is actully quite busy for escort work Emily. Although you have to come to Swansea for parlours, you will be able to get the train.
Forgot to say that in my post.
Agree with Alex very strongly as well.
Plesae think carefully about your reasons for doing this and get the security of a parlour until you have a little more experience of life in general and men in particular and can watch your own back.

Jo
Title: Re: Hey all
Post by: suzysouthampton on 23 September 2008, 12:37:25 am
HI Emily

I have read all the posts on here with interest.  I see you are keen to start this work as an escort, I dont know how old you are so I cant say OH you too young!!  Every girl decides for themselves.  This site and forum is a great place to start and is where I started also.  I was lucky, I had a good buddy and she gave me some very sound advice.  Now a buddy can pass on the things they were taught, ideas that were suggested to them, things they learned through experience and any thing else they think may help, tey cant do your research, make your decisions and take the donkey work out of it!  In my view the buddy system is purely girls passing on the help they reicieved and hopefully in the future you and other new girls can do the same for other newbies.

As a buddy we cant tell you what to do, how to do it or do your research for you - cant be resposible for what you do or dont do.  Any questions you have, or any advice you need -then of course you should ask.  I still run things past girls now, its never too late to benefit from others knowledge.  I would say that as an escort it is quite important to have internet access??  As Lexie said, a lot of time is spent replying to mails, checking sites etc - quite time consuming at times.

There are lots of differetn ways to start to escort - agencies, parlours, independantly....   I would think about what you want to do, and how you want to do it.  For example, a friend I know works in a parlour - sees guys with sometimes 5 mins inbetween??   Would you feel ok with this?   I am independant and need a good hr between bookings to refresh allow for guys who are over time slightly etc etc...... I really cant stop play at exactly 60 mins or whatever the booking is for, just feels a bit mechanical!

Everyone is different but i would think about what you personally feel you can do and go down that route.  If you decide independant work is for you I woud suggest a buddy to help you out to start with.  Lexies advice seems good, although new to this she has researched it and taken advice from a whole sector of people and comments on here and put together her own package of what she wants to offer.

I would suggest have a think about what you will, and more importantly WONT offer and find the option that suits you best.  Good luck, I hope you are ok. Please take care whatever you decide.

Suzy x