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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Mariaxxx on 11 September 2022, 02:19:23 pm
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Several years in the midlands, very busy and if not it’s because of some “external factors” like sports events or weather. Many regulars, can’t complain.
I'd love some tips about getting regulars. Take some effort so they don't get bored. And don't start to feel to comfortable.
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I've split this as it's a separate topic, and despite the me-rails on the other thread that isn't what the poster was asking :)
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Firstly, on their first (or even second visit you never know whether they will become a regular.
And the ones that specifically mention that they are looking for a regular girl (on the phone before you've met them) - well, they are not. you will see them once. They always say the same thing, hoping to get a better service or a discount.
Some clients are looking for the thrill of something new every time. And you have no control over that.
But there are plenty of clients who prefer to come back to what they know - so you are looking to win them and you can't tell who they are on first meeting.
I think you can increase your chances by:
1. having a really clean workplace and bathroom (I know mess/dirt does put some clients off from returning)
2. it's not the sexy things you do but everything else... such as being friendly and someone they can talk to.
3. if they become a regular, they will talk to you about their work, family, and whole life. So make yourself available as a good listener and allow time in the session for this sort of talk.
4. My own approach has always to be the most expensive WG around. And there are a number of reasons:
a)it puts off the guys who go visit all the cheap women - they are after quantity rather than quality
b) the men who visit you are less sensitive to price, and these can tend to be more likely to be regulars.
c) it's really hard to increase your prices. So, you might well be charging the same money in 10 years' time. It is much easier to start high - and you can always offer a sale or discount now and again.
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I would say 80 percent of my clients are regs
I saw one on Friday and he was like I’ve been seeing you 5 years
I replied yes I remember when we first met - it was at xxx hotel and it was boiling hot in July 😂😂
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Hi I have quite a lot of regulars in all my usual tour locations. I don’t think there’s a trick to it, they came to see me and liked my service and looks and that’s it they come back. First impressions are everything always answer the door in something that really suits you. I’m not in any area too long and I think guys like that I’m not around loads. Best of luck x
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I would say 80 percent of my clients are regs
I saw one on Friday and he was like I’ve been seeing you 5 years
I replied yes I remember when we first met - it was at xxx hotel and it was boiling hot in July 😂😂
I’m one of those people that can remember pretty much anything about my work but couldn’t tell you what I had for breakfast 😂I frequently lose keys money go to the shop and forget what I went there for - I’m a complete airhead . But I’m very very organised with my work
I think they like the fact that I remember them - it makes them feel Special. I’m a good listener and it’s not just about sex for a lot of guys they want to feel special i think
I always have a nice clean apartment / hotel room
Bottle of water / fluffy towels
I always give them a few extra minutes chatting to them before they leave and it’s generally paid off over the years as I have a lot of regular clients
5 years -WOW
5 meetings would be kinda hard for me.
That is all true what you said but I have a feeling you are talking from a "higher shelf" perspective.
I recently got a client for a second time and ironically enough I made almost all of things you mentioned. He came back after a year and seems just coz I was in his neighbourhood again and I work in a city which 1/4 of a size of London.
I feel like quality of sex also play a role and I am not a great actress to fake this engagement unfortunately.
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Firstly, on their first (or even second visit you never know whether they will become a regular.
And the ones that specifically mention that they are looking for a regular girl (on the phone before you've met them) - well, they are not. you will see them once. They always say the same thing, hoping to get a better service or a discount.
Some clients are looking for the thrill of something new every time. And you have no control over that.
But there are plenty of clients who prefer to come back to what they know - so you are looking to win them and you can't tell who they are on first meeting.
I think you can increase your chances by:
1. having a really clean workplace and bathroom (I know mess/dirt does put some clients off from returning)
2. it's not the sexy things you do but everything else... such as being friendly and someone they can talk to.
3. if they become a regular, they will talk to you about their work, family, and whole life. So make yourself available as a good listener and allow time in the session for this sort of talk.
4. My own approach has always to be the most expensive WG around. And there are a number of reasons:
a)it puts off the guys who go visit all the cheap women - they are after quantity rather than quality
b) the men who visit you are less sensitive to price, and these can tend to be more likely to be regulars.
c) it's really hard to increase your prices. So, you might well be charging the same money in 10 years' time. It is much easier to start high - and you can always offer a sale or discount now and again.
Apart from actually being probably one of the lowest priced escort in my area I do everything else listed here. I always have a steady stream of newer and regular clients and it works really well for me as I prefer being very high flow and I am really comfortable and happy with how I do business. I do price increases every 6months or so by £20 to feel out my 'sweet spot' and that is what has kept my regulars on as its kept me busy and guys don't really mind if its only an extra £20 so I've ended up with guys who used to pay £100 now paying £160 because of slow price increases and if anything they have become more regular over time. Its certainly not for everyone but for me I have felt more confident approaching the price changes this way rather than doing a big price hike as it does nothing for my anxiety when the phones go dead :o
Saying that I've never been sad if I need to say goodbye to a long standing client if they cross boundaries as there is always a new guy that will take his place and you can always make a new regular. This is how I can stay upbeat and enjoy the job as much as I can because it can be hard enough when it takes up most of your time and if you've had to make personal sacrifices in order to be able to do this work you don't need asswipes taking up headspace and dreading seeing them because they are your only real source of income for that month ect. Regulars can be fantastic if its easy regular money and you've got a good healthy client relationship with them but just don't get too comfortable. I would honestly say that the list here shown is pretty good representative in regards to keeping regulars in my experience.
But yea, staying consistently upbeat/friendly, being fairly genuine helps a lot and staying as professional as I possibly can be as it also helps give a little disconnect so people don't try and take advantage
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If i see clients that are definately my type of client e.g really friendly, lovely manners, smells nice, not too demanding and someone i feel really comfy around.
I will be really bubbly, pay them compliments, take my time with the service, make out i am really enjoying it and they are very good at what they are doing even when they are not i also take my time to have a little chat afterwards and not rush them out.
I find that works well for me and those are the type of clients i want back. If someone is smelly or hard work and too demanding and someone who sees a ridiculous amount of sex workers so has a huge ego i do a ok service but don't really want them back.
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I agree with most of the points above. My regulars who return again and again I tend to remember things they have chatted about and that always makes a good impression. EG last visit he said he was taking his mum to a hospital appt - next visit I will say "How's your mum, everything okay?" Sometimes I make a quick note on my phone what we've chatted about as well as the service, as that will help me not only give them the service they enjoy but also continue the chat. So I might write something like "Dave - likes a lot of kissing, massive cock - works in construction". (I usually note their size because I get vaginal pain and might need to offer them an oral-only booking if I'm feeling delicate.)
Regarding prices, I have long-time (5+ years) regulars who I keep on the previous price structure when I've increased my prices. EG I started off with one who 2yrs ago was paying £100 for an hour which was my standard at the time. I went up to £120 in 2020, I kept him on £100. I've now gone up to £140 and I've moved him up to £120. However if I don't enjoy their company then they get told the new price and if they don't want to pay it, bye-bye!
The other thing that I don't think has been mentioned before is that I ONLY offer services which I enjoy. This means I bring enthusiasm to all my bookings because I'm not thinking "Oh god, I hope he doesn't like foot fetish, I'll have to grin and bear it, yuk yuk yuk" which would then bring a negative energy to the booking even if the guy didn't want whatever I was dreading.
I also make an effort to keep chat positive. I don't want to spend time talking about how shitty the traffic is, the cost of living increases, my stupid neighbour, or the previous horrible client. I also NEVER slag off other sex workers! I want them to have a memory of a fun, relaxing session, not that we had a bitch fest about politics :D
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If i see clients that are definately my type of client e.g really friendly, lovely manners, smells nice, not too demanding and someone i feel really comfy around.
I will be really bubbly, pay them compliments, take my time with the service, make out i am really enjoying it and they are very good at what they are doing even when they are not i also take my time to have a little chat afterwards and not rush them out.
I find that works well for me and those are the type of clients i want back. If someone is smelly or hard work and too demanding and someone who sees a ridiculous amount of sex workers so has a huge ego i do a ok service but don't really want them back.
If I get pain in the arse guys that are still somewhat tolerable and have been at least safe to see I tend to save their number under 'accept only if its quiet' and suggest to them that I am busy and can only accept a shorter booking if I'm not really in the mood so that I don't lose out on money. I just hold my nose if need be for half hour or so!
I once suggested to a guy that saw me twice every week that he needed to have a shower before our booking started as he kept leaving skid marks on my sheets. After two more visits he stopped contacting me. I realised as much as it was gross that he left the marks in reality he was always the last booking of the day and I bring extra sheets so it wasn't too big a deal, looking back I should have kept my mouth shut and just kept him on for longer until I got more fed up lol.
Sometimes its about what you're happy to tolerate, I don't mind someone not being fresh out the shower as long as they are short bookings and out the door but I always get them in the shower if its going to be over half hour.
I'm still the same with these guys in regards to my attitude towards them as its no skin off my back if I decided to block or not see again, for me its about keeping up the bravado so I don't end up slipping with other clients
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SS91 see i think you done right thing telling him about the skid marks. Too many let them get away with bad bad hygiene just for the money. Leaving shit on bed sheets what other industry would think that was ok they would be appalled. I suppose that's why some have to pay for sex as most women would not put up with that without payment at the very least.
I am OCG on hygiene though so that is the hardest bit for me to tollerate.
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SS91 see i think you done right thing telling him about the skid marks. Too many let them get away with bad bad hygiene just for the money. Leaving shit on bed sheets what other industry would think that was ok they would be appalled. I suppose that's why some have to pay for sex as most women would not put up with that without payment at the very least.
I am OCG on hygiene though so that is the hardest bit for me to tollerate.
I know what you mean, I didn't actually mention the marks but he MUST have seen the fact that he left them on the bed and just figured that I wouldn't mention it but me asking him to shower was my way of saying it.
Going back to the subject is that to keep regs sometimes we cant always choose our regs if things are a tad slow sometimes and ideally we always have perfect ones that are not grotty little fucks but thats not the way of the world :-X I guess I am happy to tolerate a little whiffy or inconvenient stains for short bookings if it means weekly income. I am happier now he isn't a reg but I guess I gambled on him not being offended by me asking for basic decency and I am the one who was punished for it :FF
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SS91 even if you asked him to shower many do not even wash there bums unless you say it out loud your arse is smelly and dirty please sort this out.
I told 2 recently that there bum is very smelly and there arse has shit bits on it. Stupid excuses like forgot to wipe my bum or oh i never realised, soap must not be that good.
I said to them sorry but we are not paid enough this should be done automatically without me having to tell you.
When i get nice guys and they smell good i put myself out more. One client last month moaned about a woman he saw recently having bad smells down below and her armpits too and this man had the worst shit breathe i had to hold my breathe a lot of the booking. What a hypocrite slag off others but don't seem to sort his own shit breathe out.
Going back to the regs situation i also make notes of some of the men so if they return i remember bits about them which impresses them. Some tell me to save there number but i don't contact them.
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To me if someone can't have the decency to be clean, the disrespect I feel is not worth their money. Also suggests to me based on experience, they are likely to do something else awful. I give one maybe two chances, they have the choice. The very few smellies have also been difficult in other ways.
A couple of regulars have had one off genuine hygiene bad days, recovered from it. Another I talked to got the message that a bath or shower same day (had thought shower day prior, then standing wash on the day was enough (physical job) is the way forward and not an issue since - in fact he's squeaky clean every time.
It's not your fault, and you deserve better.
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Some good points above. I definitely agree about only offering services you enjoy, or can at least easily tolerate; for example, DON'T offer anal or CIM unless you are fully comfortable doing so, ditto any role plays that you may find psychologically difficult.
If you 'click' with a client, offer them an extra-special service and perhaps make little notes about what you've worn in a booking, say, so you rotate outfits.
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I met a client like 3 times. Really enjoyed my time as this was dinner dates, was even filling sorry for him knowing his issues.
Then 4th time I initiated after he got quiet and I was in a city, wanted to make some money. So typical busy-ness excuse but we met.
Since then I had to initiate and each of this meeting is less and less exciting. Still enjoyable as he is educated and well mannered so will not reject the meeting but it feels...
I guess I somewhat hurrted his ego or I dont really know. Obviously he won't tell. Possibly once I put him down on earth when he was on a dreaming mode. Or we just simply lost the spark.
At this point it is hard to recall after time passed.
Thoughts on that type of situation?
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Sorry not sure what you meaning by you had to initiate. You meaning you contacting clients to get bookings when you arrive in their city?
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Sorry not sure what you meaning by you had to initiate. You meaning you contacting clients to get bookings when you arrive in their city?
Exactly. A client as I wrote above about one particular situation.
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I met a client like 3 times. Really enjoyed my time as this was dinner dates, was even filling sorry for him knowing his issues.
Then 4th time I initiated after he got quiet and I was in a city, wanted to make some money. So typical busy-ness excuse but we met.
Since then I had to initiate and each of this meeting is less and less exciting. Still enjoyable as he is educated and well mannered so will not reject the meeting but it feels...
I guess I somewhat hurrted his ego or I dont really know. Obviously he won't tell. Possibly once I put him down on earth when he was on a dreaming mode. Or we just simply lost the spark.
At this point it is hard to recall after time passed.
Thoughts on that type of situation?
I think its always best to wait for clients to contact you otherwise they will get the feeling your just fishing and wanting their money which could be a reason that things have turned a little sour between you both. If it works for you go for it but I wouldn't risk it either way, even if they have said they are single ect as you can't trust that when you message them out of the blue someone they don't want knowing will find out what they've been up to.
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I met a client like 3 times. Really enjoyed my time as this was dinner dates, was even filling sorry for him knowing his issues.
Then 4th time I initiated after he got quiet and I was in a city, wanted to make some money. So typical busy-ness excuse but we met.
Since then I had to initiate and each of this meeting is less and less exciting. Still enjoyable as he is educated and well mannered so will not reject the meeting but it feels...
I guess I somewhat hurrted his ego or I dont really know. Obviously he won't tell. Possibly once I put him down on earth when he was on a dreaming mode. Or we just simply lost the spark.
At this point it is hard to recall after time passed.
Thoughts on that type of situation?
Unpopular opinion : this is exactly why I'm not really fan of regulars and prefer having new clients every time. I feel that after 2-3 times seeing them, it becomes more and more boring so that if they text me again in the future to arrange another booking, I will typically ignore them not to see them again. (rectification : I'm here talking about clients who book for 1h or longer. For clients who book for shorter bookings (less than 1h), it's a different story).
Don't get me wrong, they are some clients who are genuinely interesting and "entertaining" that you could see over and over again but these are relatively rare in my opinion. Plus, I also get that having regulars is comfortable (no security issues, you know what their expectations are, it helps when it's quiet, etc.) but I just feel that the "emotional" labour (if we can call it that way) gets more and more as you keep seeing them so I just prefer letting them go at some point.
Is it only me feeling that way or does anybody else feel the same ? ;D ;D
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Unpopular opinion : this is exactly why I'm not really fan of regulars and prefer having new clients every time. I feel that after 2-3 times seeing them, it becomes more and more boring so that if they text me again in the future to arrange another booking, I will typically ignore them not to see them again.
Don't get me wrong, they are some clients who are genuinely interesting and "entertaining" that you could see over and over again but these are relatively rare in my opinion. Plus, I also get that having regulars is comfortable (no security issues, you know what their expectations are, it helps when it's quiet, etc.) but I just feel that the "emotional" labour (if we can call it that way) gets more and more as you keep seeing them so I just prefer letting them go at some point.
Is it only me feeling that way or does anybody else feel the same ? ;D ;D
I'd say it depends on the bloke. Some just want no strings, straightforward sex with someone they get on OK with and know will provide a decent service, and they don't mind paying for it or require a significant amount of variety or innovation. But I do agree there are some others who either develop a sense of entitlement after a few visits, or expect you to be like a performing seal, coming up with something different (more outrageous?) every visit simply because they're the client.
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Kay, yes I've just rectified my post, the regulars I was talking about are the ones who book for 1h or more and who generally finish in a short amount of time but still want to stay until the time is up (probably to make their money worth) so you have time for chit chat and stuff. If I feel that the conversation is boring, or unilateral like if I have to ask myself "what am I gonna say next?" so there is no awkward silence or if when I ask questions the guy answers by "yes" or "no" type of words, then I won't see them again for sure but YES ABSOLUTELY in the case where those regulars come every time for a 30min booking, looking for straightforward sex and are out after 15min, obviously they are more than welcome to come back as much as they want ;D ;D
That's why I actually prefer 30min bookings so no time for chit chat and they are out quicker so no "emotional" labour ;D
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Firstly, on their first (or even second visit you never know whether they will become a regular.
And the ones that specifically mention that they are looking for a regular girl (on the phone before you've met them) - well, they are not. you will see them once. They always say the same thing, hoping to get a better service or a discount.
Some clients are looking for the thrill of something new every time. And you have no control over that.
But there are plenty of clients who prefer to come back to what they know - so you are looking to win them and you can't tell who they are on first meeting.
I think you can increase your chances by:
1. having a really clean workplace and bathroom (I know mess/dirt does put some clients off from returning)
2. it's not the sexy things you do but everything else... such as being friendly and someone they can talk to.
3. if they become a regular, they will talk to you about their work, family, and whole life. So make yourself available as a good listener and allow time in the session for this sort of talk.
4. My own approach has always to be the most expensive WG around. And there are a number of reasons:
a)it puts off the guys who go visit all the cheap women - they are after quantity rather than quality
b) the men who visit you are less sensitive to price, and these can tend to be more likely to be regulars.
c) it's really hard to increase your prices. So, you might well be charging the same money in 10 years' time. It is much easier to start high - and you can always offer a sale or discount now and again.
**** I agree with everything said above.
80% of my clients are regulars.
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I'd say it depends on the bloke. Some just want no strings, straightforward sex with someone they get on OK with and know will provide a decent service, and they don't mind paying for it or require a significant amount of variety or innovation. But I do agree there are some others who either develop a sense of entitlement after a few visits, or expect you to be like a performing seal, coming up with something different (more outrageous?) every visit simply because they're the client.
Oh god, the ones who ask you "what will we do this time?" and constantly want edgier and edgier roleplays. It's like they are kink tourists and my bedroom is an all you can eat buffet. One visit they want to be tied up and humiliated, then that leads into strap on or cross dressing, then all of a sudden they want me to be submissive. Um no love, I don't switch!
Thankfully I have a good number of regulars who know exactly what they want every time.
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Oh god, the ones who ask you "what will we do this time?" and constantly want edgier and edgier roleplays. It's like they are kink tourists and my bedroom is an all you can eat buffet.
Oh my god THIS.
I wondered when I first started escorting if I would have to do as many services, outfits, and options as possible to be able cater to enough clients to make good money.
With experience I realise these 'buffet' clients are not the ones I want at all. I think it's better to pick your niche or corner of the market and do that well rather than trying to cater to everything.
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I’ve ‘retired’ and returned to the industry a number of times due to work, relationships, children and have been really lucky to keep my regulars even when I’ve had a five year gap. I think it comes down to a number of things.
Being genuine and doing what it says on the tin.
My locations/physical attributes / services have changed many times over the years but my clients know that I will always be honest. I look like and provide what I say I will and they know that they can trust me.
Be fair.
I won’t let anyone take the pee but I am always fair, if I cock up I admit and apologise and make up for it. If someone cancels reasonably I don’t penalise them for it and for instance one client on his first time visiting me walked in, paid me for 3 hours and was so nervous he left after 15. I gave him the majority of the money back. He still sees me regularly 14 years on.
Take time to get to know them.
Yes of course they’re kinks and what they want sexually but outside of that. I often feel as though I’m meeting an old friend because I am and they feel that too. One of my regulars has moved on sexually to being a slave, I don’t provide a service anything like that but he still comes to see me for GFE because we have built a rapport and he loves a good natter. Yes most like to try out new things but when you build trust with people most want to try new things with you. Lots of my regulars kinks have been explored first and foremost with me because they know they can trust me and even if it’s not my thing they know I will give it my best because I like to see them happy.
Always look at it from their point of view.
Your location, your facilities. Would you be happy and comfortable and feel as though the required effort has been made?
Have integrity.
My clients know that I have standards. Yes I sell sex and there is a risk to that but they know I won’t put them in any unnecessary risk. They also know that I am discreet. They know I care for my own discretion too and that puts them at ease.
Don’t get complacent.
It’s easy too. I think I’ve been guilty of it at times when I’m used to seeing someone. You stop making as much effort. Don’t make them feel as special. With regulars it’s even more important to do so. You kick yourself when you lose then because like I said they can feel like friends and they are safe and you know what you are getting.
Let them grow with you.
My personal life has changed in the last 14 or so years since starting out. As I said, so has my offerings etc. of course I’m careful about my identity but I get them in on it a little.
Only offering massage because of a health issue - I let them know and I make it a bloody good massage.
Not offering cim anymore as partner isn’t happy. I let them know and have a bit of fun with the idea of my hubby knowing what I’m up to.
Changing schedule because of my business commitments - lots of office content!