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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: socialescort on 20 August 2009, 04:07:17 pm
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Hiya,
I am considering becoming a social escort, after contacting a few agencies two have replied offering to market a profile for me. Although I have read warnings about agencies that require a monthly fee.
I'm posting this hoping that someone may know of these two agencies and may be able to advise me on whether or not to join them...
One is ExtraPillow.com
and the other is iescorte.co.uk
Thanks!xx
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Hello!
Having googled them both- I would say that iescorte is a genuine social only escorting site as they say they do not ask for a registration fee from you, and they also advertise escorts to members of the public without having to pay to view profiles. Another way to tell a scam agency is if they advertise "how to become an escort" on their landing page rather than the escorts on offer for clients to book a date with. This site wins points there.
No idea how much business they could get you though because in my experience the social side of most escorting either doesn't happen or is a prelude to sex.
The other site- extrapillow.com.... regardless of what they say, it looks like a sexual service site to me because of the provocative pictures. A bloke is hardly likely to see some of those poses and think "they look like they'd be the right girl to accompany me to my sister's wedding". Methinks the contents of his pants would be talking to him in all honesty.
There are LOTS of threads on social escorting on saafe, I don't know how to do the little link things but all you have to do is type "social escort" into the search bar and all of the topics should come up for you to browse.
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ExtraPillow isn't an agency, it's an advertising site. They'll create a profile for you but they're not saying they can find you work.
iEscort? looks reasonably genuine although that doesn't mean they won't try to get some money from you once you've applied, many of the scams don't mention the registration fee upfront. If they don't ask you for money then you could give it a try. I'd be a bit uncomfortable with them taking the money instead of you (and I imagine that would be annoying if a client wanted to extend a booking), but it's not a huge red flag as it is with sexual agencies who claim they'll take the money and pay you afterwards.
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Another one to avoid is Candy Escorts who offer some social escorting but ask for hundreds of pounds up front promising the earth. If it sounds too good to be true, it most likely is. These arent to be confused with CandyWall who do adult phone chat and/or webcam.
Good Luck and welcome.
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If you're the lady who wrote to me recently, welcome to the forum and I'm glad to see you've signed up. But please heed my advice on the fact that there is very little call for social escorting, if at all. If you are lucky enough to get any work, appointments would be few and far between, not enough to sustain you.
But that's not to say that you have to turn to this line of business if it's something you don't have the stomach for. Please think long and hard before you take any steps.
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I like that iEscort? is upfront about there being no guarantee of work, even if they spell it "guarentee".
Indeed, for someone trying to put across a high quality image, they could really do with someone checking their grammar: "Proffesional engagements ... an Escorts conversational and social skills are as important as there appearance", "Privite dates whether to a resteraunt", etc etc.
My guess is that they're new, I doubt they'll make much 40% commission, but they don't set off the scam alarm bells. I also doubt they'll last a year.
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Hi and welcome to the site, you will find this site and all it's memebers here completely invaluable in this line of work. Many of the ladies on here know exactly what they are talking about and will always be honest with you so please feel free to ask anything. As for the SOCIAL ESCORT work !! sorry to burst ur bubble here but honestly it does'nt exist. I almost fell for this scam myself only a few wks ago now then the night before I was about to part with over ?200 I found this helpful website, saved me in the nick of time too. From what I can gather most if not all of the websites and organisations out there offering social escorting work are all scams and fake, please, please dont join any of them, you'll lose money i'm sure u cant afford to waste. If your serious about getting into working as an escort then you should understand it is all about sex but just think carefully about it before going ahead. Some women can just turn off and become someone else, others are driven purely by money and greed etc, it's a very tough line of work. I have been escorting now on and off for about 5 years and i've also done reception work in a couple of private houses so i've seen much go on and how some women running these places can try to control you. You can of course work independently as an escort but believe me with the current climant being the way it is right now there is sooooo much competition out there now you'll be fighting for your life against women charging silly amounts and those working without using protection.
I hope you find this advice helpful and this site will be able to get you all the help and advice you could ever need.
Good luck with everything, stay safe and well J x
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there is sooooo much competition out there now you'll be fighting for your life against women charging silly amounts and those working without using protection.
It's probably worth saying that trying to compete on price is - at best - risky, because there is always going to be someone cheaper out there. Thinking that you've only been chosen because you were the cheapest cannot leave a very pleasant feeling either.
Like with most other things, there are more than one market out there and not everyone will be looking for the cheapest bareback sex they can find.
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XW5's comment above maybe right, however I seriously doubt it somehow, there are some decent clients out there looking for safe, discrete services but lets be honest about this shall we men are men at the end of the day.
Make of it what you will, my advice is open, honest and all above board, I'm not about to sit here on this site and see women glarmourising this industry when in reality it is what it is...................... it'll never be legalised and society as a whole will never ever accept it.
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XW5's comment above maybe right, however I seriously doubt it somehow, there are some decent clients out there looking for safe, discrete services but lets be honest about this shall we men are men at the end of the day.
What is it that you want to say?
You think xw5 is probably wrong in his assertion that not everyone is looking for the cheapest bareback sex they can find.
You think "there are some decent clients out there looking for safe, discrete services".
Then there's the "men are men" comment. In this context I suppose that something about men thinking with their pricks? Is the point to tie together the contradictory statements above by saying that some men go out looking for safe discreet services, but if presented with an offer of ?20 bareback their manliness takes over and demands that they blow their load with no thought for the consequences?
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XW5's comment above maybe right, however I seriously doubt it somehow, there are some decent clients out there looking for safe, discrete services but lets be honest about this shall we men are men at the end of the day.
Make of it what you will, my advice is open, honest and all above board, I'm not about to sit here on this site and see women glarmourising this industry when in reality it is what it is...................... it'll never be legalised and society as a whole will never ever accept it.
Please tell me who on here glamourises this job. We talk about catching STIs, the horrors of condoms breaking, timewasters, no shows, hagglers, unscrupulous agencies and webmasters, not to mention the fear of our loved ones finding out what we do when we don't want them to. Which parts of the above are glamorous?
Prostitution is actually legal in this country, so not sure what you don't think will be legalised. It's the off-shoots like brothels, brothel-keeping, soliciting on the streets etc., and the running of agencies that are illegal. Selling sex itself is legal.
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XW5's comment above maybe right, however I seriously doubt it somehow, there are some decent clients out there looking for safe, discrete services but lets be honest about this shall we men are men at the end of the day.
Make of it what you will, my advice is open, honest and all above board, I'm not about to sit here on this site and see women glarmourising this industry when in reality it is what it is...................... it'll never be legalised and society as a whole will never ever accept it.
Could you please post links to the statements where we 'glarmourise' our job? I must have missed something.
I've recently posted about being assaulted and robbed (an isolated event, hopefully and certainly a first for me), but I also earn an extremely good living through my work and operate entirely within the law. Please expand on your final sentence ???.
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Hello to all of you out there that I obviously have offended by my recent comments here. I am sincerely SORRY. When I say GLAMOURISING THIS INDUSTRY I'm merely talking about those ladies out there banging on about it been a widely accepted career choice, one that you still seem to think society as a whole will one day learn to accept. I know some women out there do make a good living from it and you seem to forget that I am also in this industry to some degree aswell, I may not have been doing it as long as some of you but I do have a good sensible head on my shoulders. I have found this site to be very useful in many ways and most women on here do seem to geniunely want to helps others and give really good advice, however some of you do tend to jump on your high horses a lot of the time and talk in riddles instead of plain english. This of course does'nt help when newbie are seriously looking for help and advice. I know you guys have been very active memebers on this website for some time now which is a good thing. Just spare a thought for those of us that need to lean on you for things we dont know at times, thats all i'm saying.
Sorry again for offending anyone, that seriously is not my intention.
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Dont worry Justme. :) I dont know if you are aware but XW5 is a bloke who used to be very involved, and still is?, with advising gay and transgender escorts. He is a very knowledgable sorta fellow and has no agenda.
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Hello to all of you out there that I obviously have offended by my recent comments here. I am sincerely SORRY. When I say GLAMOURISING THIS INDUSTRY I'm merely talking about those ladies out there banging on about it been a widely accepted career choice, one that you still seem to think society as a whole will one day learn to accept. I know some women out there do make a good living from it and you seem to forget that I am also in this industry to some degree aswell, I may not have been doing it as long as some of you but I do have a good sensible head on my shoulders. I have found this site to be very useful in many ways and most women on here do seem to geniunely want to helps others and give really good advice, however some of you do tend to jump on your high horses a lot of the time and talk in riddles instead of plain english. This of course does'nt help when newbie are seriously looking for help and advice. I know you guys have been very active memebers on this website for some time now which is a good thing. Just spare a thought for those of us that need to lean on you for things we dont know at times, thats all i'm saying.
Sorry again for offending anyone, that seriously is not my intention.
I realise you've apologised, but you've pissed me off. You clearly said:
I'm not about to sit here on this site and see women glarmourising this industry......
....which clearly implies you meant women (inc. XW5) on this site and in particular in this thread. And also saying:
my advice is open, honest and all above board.....
also implies that our advice isn't. In this same thread I told the OP not to do this job if she doesn't think she can do it. Is your advice better than mine, or XW5, a bloke who's been around in this industry for years?
You were personalising your post, you weren't talking generally and yes, I do take offence to it.
Yes, I have been here since the beginning and yes, I offer advice when asked. But just because I do, it doesn't mean I can't have an opinion too. This isn't a fluffy job where the sex is always great and the men are always 6ft plus hunks. In no way, shape or form do I glamourise the industry and at no point on this forum have I said that this job will ever be socially accepted, because I personally don't think it will be. If the Bible is to be believed prostitution is as old as Jesus, but we're no further forward to ever being accepted. Sex, and the selling of it, will always be sordid to people. But so what if women make careers out of it? How does that coincide with us thinking that it's socially acceptable?
This job does have its perks. It's not all doom and gloom. And I will tell the truth about it, the good bits and the bad bits.
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Personally, I wasn't having a go at you so much as asking you to clarify your statement. You may not have been talking in riddles, but you weren't being entirely clear.
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Hello to all of you out there that I obviously have offended by my recent comments here. I am sincerely SORRY.
Apology accepted dear justme68, I know I am not as regular on this or any site as I would like, but I value Saafe above all and really don't understand your comments.
but When I say GLAMOURISING THIS INDUSTRY I'm merely talking about those ladies out there banging on about it been a widely accepted career choice, one that you still seem to think society as a whole will one day learn to accept.
Not once have I seen this industry been gamourised on here, we all know and say that it can be tough as well as good and that the general public will never see prostitution as an acceptable job and always recommend to think long and hard about this choice.
I know some women out there do make a good living from it and you seem to forget that I am also in this industry to some degree aswell, I may not have been doing it as long as some of you but I do have a good sensible head on my shoulders.
In this case you should know that what we are doing is not illegal and that there are more than their fair share of men, who, yes think with their pricks, but are sensible enough to ensure their own safety and sexual health when choosing an escort.
I have found this site to be very useful in many ways and most women on here do seem to geniunely want to helps others and give really good advice, however some of you do tend to jump on your high horses a lot of the time and talk in riddles instead of plain english.
Now while most of what you have said has raised objections with me this last paragraph has actually pissed me off. What are you referring to please?
To my knowledge everyone here calls a spade a spade or like me a shovel - this means we all try to be as plain speaking as we can to the point of being blunt and I would hope that if someone didn't understand something they would ask for clarification and know they wouyld not be ridiculed.
Anyway, I just needed to say my piece (I wish I could keep my big trap shut sometimes, but hey, thats me!)
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Good mornng ladies/men !
Ok lets just keeps this thread simple shall we. I would like to say thank you to the people who have seen my apology and had the decency to acknowledge it, clearly you have your heads screwed on right and have regonised that fact that I am genuinely sorry for offending anyone here.
When i've said some people talk in riddles here I'm meaning those of you who lile to take little paragrahys out of my thread and seriously pick fault with it !! why do you have to do that ? I see that an aswful lot on here and just dont understand why u feel the need to do that, why complicate it, what is it you get out of it ? .............. talk about confuse people just looking for plain and simple advice from you EXPERIENCED people here !!!! Jesus, dont forget most of us on here are all in the same flipin boat, just because some of you on here have been in the industry longer does'nt mean to say you the only experts at it, YES you know a lot and to some degree have the upper hand in some ways when it comes to giving out advice on here but just give us less experience people a chance too, we DO know somethings about this industry THANKYOU, I read a lot of threads on here from you REGULAR people and boy do you look to ramble on when its just not neccessary, all some people want is straght forward, simple advice, keep it real thats all im asking and quit jumping on me for having my say, how is that helping anyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good mornng ladies/men !
Ok lets just keeps this thread simple shall we. I would like to say thank you to the people who have seen my apology and had the decency to acknowledge it, clearly you have your heads screwed on right and have regonised that fact that I am genuinely sorry for offending anyone here.
Funnily enough the thread was simple enough to start off with.
When i've said some people talk in riddles here I'm meaning those of you who lile to take little paragrahys out of my thread and seriously pick fault with it !! why do you have to do that ? I see that an aswful lot on here and just dont understand why u feel the need to do that, why complicate it, what is it you get out of it ? .............. talk about confuse people just looking for plain and simple advice from you EXPERIENCED people here !!!!
Now I understand what you mean about talking in riddles. Members quote other members so that when they respond, the member they've quoted knows the response is directed solely at them and their previous comments.
They may segregate a whole post because the previous member may have made more than one point which the second member may like to address. That isn't talking in riddles, it's called being precise. It's not exclusive to this forum, it's not even exclusive to escort and punting forums. People do it all over the world on different forums; book forums, holiday forums, fishing forums, you name it. It's the way of the message board.
I read a lot of threads on here from you REGULAR people and boy do you look to ramble on when its just not neccessary, all some people want is straght forward, simple advice, keep it real thats all im asking and quit jumping on me for having my say, how is that helping anyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry if you think we ramble on, but it is good to see that you've garnered the advice that you came on here to seek. If you have anymore problems understanding our posts or the advice written therein, that members here are giving freely in their spare time, do feel free to let us know.
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Hi Brandy, Thanks for your feedback here, it is appreciated believe me. I just feel that whenever I give my opinion on anyone's thread or indeed posting my own for helpful advice some people feel the need to jump on me because maybe they dont like what I'm saying !! I'm a very simple, straight talking women, thats all, I never mean to offend anyone. I see you are one of the original founders of this helpful website and to be honest I do value ur advice/opinions over most on here. Have a good day and I will do my level best not to step out of line again LOL
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Justme, I'm sorry if I've offended you by quoting your posts. As Brandy says, it's a normal thing to do and people have been doing it since before the internet as we're familiar with it even existed.
Now I have to admit that I may pick apart people's posts in a note-entirely-nice way. The thing is, if someone's said something I disagree with I'll say so (more on that later), but if I think they've said something I disagree with but I'm not sure that's what they actually meant, I feel I should find out first. Of course I still have the idea of what I think they're saying in my head and that may come across in my post.
As for people not liking things that are posted, if we disagree with something someone's said and we think it's important, of course we're going to give our own opinions. You did that very same thing in this thread, so you know how it works. If several people have something to say that contradicts your post then it can feel like they're jumping on you, which is uncomfortable but they're not trying to be mean.
In the case of your post here (and this has been mentioned already but you don't seem to have acknowledged it), you appeared to be attacking most of the posters on this board. When you do that, people will jump to their own defence. Again, you don't like feeling attacked yourself, so you can understand why you got that response.
And finally (sorry for rambling), you keep saying you're straight-talking and seem to think that people have a problem with that. We don't, no-one here is being deliberately obtuse and what you refer to as "talking in riddles" is actually an attempt to be more clear, not less. Everyone thinks that what they're saying is perfectly reasonable and understandable. Everyone, including me and including you, sometimes says things that don't convey what they actually mean. If we don't know what you're talking about we'll ask you to explain it, and if you don't know what one of us is talking about you should do the same.
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Hi Anika Mae, Like Brandy I find your feedback valuable and honest in a good way and take on board everything you've said here. Will try to keep my thread short and clear in future so as not to confuse anyone. Thank you
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Hi Brandy, Thanks for your feedback here, it is appreciated believe me. I just feel that whenever I give my opinion on anyone's thread or indeed posting my own for helpful advice some people feel the need to jump on me because maybe they dont like what I'm saying !! I'm a very simple, straight talking women, thats all, I never mean to offend anyone. I see you are one of the original founders of this helpful website and to be honest I do value ur advice/opinions over most on here. Have a good day and I will do my level best not to step out of line again LOL
Not to worry. I must admit I did see a little red when it seemed you had a problem with others, but mainly Ian's (XW5) comments. He gives nothing but sound, sensible advice on here. He's also been here since the beginning and has been a steadfast supporter of SAAFE since its inception. Although he's more than capable of defending himself, as Trafford says, he has no hidden agendas.
Keep posting as you do. And if we disagree then we disagree.
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LOL - peace and good will to all.
I like straight talking women and there are a lot of us on here and we will all have areas where we disagree or ramble on because there are subjects close to our hearts and we have had different experiences.
One problem with messages boards as with texts and emails is that you don't have the face to face contact and the wink that could take the sting out of a comment or the smile to soften something that sounds harsh is missing, leading to misunderstandings. Hence the use of smilies.
Also what sounds completely clear and plausible in your head, because you know the thoughts behind it, can come across completely garbled or seem to mean something completely different to another board member, which is why it is important to ask the person for clarifycation.
To Justme68: I too apologise for quoting and picking apart your post, but I do it all the time, to try to make sure people understand what I'm referring to with my post and it is the easy option of recapping what the other person said.
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Hi Cassie, Thank you for ur feedback here, I do take on board what u and others have said regarding my last thread and I promise hand on heart to make sure I'm clearer with what I'm saying in future ;)