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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #15 on: 28 April 2012, 02:07:29 am »
What a horrible situation :( I have also fallen fowl to this twice - the first time the client was forceful, did a couple of things against my wishes and the police were informed - I never did get the money owed but he did get arrested and his wife was informed of his activities. The second time the guy was on me as soon as he was in the door and to be totally honest I was overwhelmed and gobsmacked, I just clammed up and my brain went a little dead! On that occasion, I sent him a text, threatened to inform the police and asked him to drop it round at his convenience within the next 3 days - and he did!

The only advice I can think to give (at this ungodly hour) is that if you're awkward about asking for money upfront, put an FAQ on your profiles along the lines of 'When should I pay you? - Please pay me at the very start of our meeting, this way we can both relax and enjoy our time together'

Also if you're uncomfortable saying payment or money to them (as I am) then say 'Shall we get the paperwork out of the way?' and smile sweetly - works every time for me now :)
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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #16 on: 28 April 2012, 02:13:08 am »
Regulars are great; but even with regulars you should always try and just get the money first; because its still an appointment no matter who it is.
and like cora said; the paperwork line is nice and easy to use, because nobody likes saying money really do they?

Keep us updated on what happens :)

Sahrbear

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #17 on: 28 April 2012, 09:40:08 am »
No response!

I did know the other working girl but had met her through him on a separate occasion. I talked to her and apparently she spent the night and he only paid her for two hours. what a git! So we both agreed we wont see him again. It's a shame cause i thought he'd be a good regular but it seems he doesn't like paying girls for sex and so thinks after showering them with gifts he'll end up in a friends with bens situation.

sigh. Oh well, I've moved on and I wish him well honestly and I really hope he finds a nice girl to settle down with because obviously he needs some love.

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #18 on: 28 April 2012, 09:46:21 am »
the paperwork line is nice and easy to use, because nobody likes saying money really do they?

I beg to differ.
  • Me: Would you like to do my favourite thing for a session?
  • Him (eyes wide and excited): Y...es?
  • Me (Holding out hand, palm up): You pay me lots of money! Money really turns me on! (All the while  ;D)
I do this on 95% of my gigs. Always works and they always smile, which is a great start.
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ParisB

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #19 on: 28 April 2012, 10:52:10 am »
ime  you are far more likely to be ripped off /not paid by a regular  client than a newbiew or one client that you see now and then
there is probably very little that you can  apart from put it behind you and learn from the mistake that you need to be paid up front 

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #20 on: 30 April 2012, 03:34:20 pm »
Regulars are the worst for manipulation. You have to be very very clear on boundaries, from the beginning.

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #21 on: 30 April 2012, 04:04:40 pm »
Regulars are the worst for manipulation. You have to be very very clear on boundaries, from the beginning.

I so agree with this. It has been regular clients that have tried to push the boundaries usually.

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #22 on: 01 May 2012, 07:16:12 pm »
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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #23 on: 01 May 2012, 10:28:16 pm »
Hiya I do really sympathise with the way you feel and the fact he can't even be bothered to contact you back says it says it all really but the only thing I would like to ask is that if you did not really participate in the threesome what were you exactly there for? And because you did not really participate which part do you feel you were not paid for? I'm not being nasty I'm just confused.

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #24 on: 01 May 2012, 11:11:29 pm »
Regulars are the worst for manipulation. You have to be very very clear on boundaries, from the beginning.

I so agree with this. It has been regular clients that have tried to push the boundaries usually.

xx

Agree.  Most of the money issues I've had have been with regs.  They usually pay up in the end, but not always.  It's like they keep a tally in their head, in the belief that one day they'll have paid enough to get it for free.
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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #25 on: 02 May 2012, 07:49:18 am »
Hiya I do really sympathise with the way you feel and the fact he can't even be bothered to contact you back says it says it all really but the only thing I would like to ask is that if you did not really participate in the threesome what were you exactly there for? And because you did not really participate which part do you feel you were not paid for? I'm not being nasty I'm just confused.

I think it's more the fact that when we're booked, we're booked and should be paid for our time even if the client decides he'd rather just cuddle/talk about his wife & kids/suck your toes than have a marathon sex session. From what the OP states, I believe she was booked for a threesome and if the client ended up shagging mainly the other girl, the OP still gave sexual services and frankly, the OP isn't best friends with this guy; he's a client so any time he spends with her, he should be paying her for (unless she personally decides to waive the fee for some reason). That's my understanding of the situation, anyway.

I agree with others above, too, about it being a shame that many regulars become such unreliable clients where the fee is concerned. I've only been able to have a handful of long-term regulars as there just aren't that many guys who can see you loads of times and not start getting "confused" about the situation. I'm guessing that many of these sorts of guys (not all - the really good regs are the ones who don't get remotely "confused"!) only really want to keep seeing the same girl so that they can get away from the whole "You book for x time and pay my rate of ?xxx up front" thing (which is probably our favourite thing - a situation with clear boundaries :D) - because they are looking for a mistress/sugarbaby/girlfriend so perhaps they don't have to feel like "a punter".

Whatever the reason, I'm always on my guard against these guys. It takes a looooong time to get a few regulars who are actually good clients so I've never been under the misapprehension that it's really feasible to try to base your whole business on regulars. It's too important to be able to say "er, thanks but goodbye!" to them when they say, "Now that we're friends I don't need to pay you, right?", unfortunately!
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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #26 on: 02 May 2012, 02:56:08 pm »
I think it's more the fact that when we're booked, we're booked and should be paid for our time even if the client decides he'd rather just cuddle/talk about his wife & kids/suck your toes than have a marathon sex session. From what the OP states, I believe she was booked for a threesome and if the client ended up shagging mainly the other girl, the OP still gave sexual services and frankly, the OP isn't best friends with this guy; he's a client so any time he spends with her, he should be paying her for (unless she personally decides to waive the fee for some reason). That's my understanding of the situation, anyway.

Agreed.  I've done a lot of threesomes and generally, if the client has seen you a lot, he'll focus most of his attention on the girl he doesn't know so well.  I've had bookings where I've spent most of my time watching and being encouraging ::)  I still expect to get paid whether I shag the client or not.
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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #27 on: 02 May 2012, 03:37:29 pm »
I think it's more the fact that when we're booked, we're booked and should be paid for our time even if the client decides he'd rather just cuddle/talk about his wife & kids/suck your toes than have a marathon sex session. From what the OP states, I believe she was booked for a threesome and if the client ended up shagging mainly the other girl, the OP still gave sexual services and frankly, the OP isn't best friends with this guy; he's a client so any time he spends with her, he should be paying her for (unless she personally decides to waive the fee for some reason). That's my understanding of the situation, anyway.

Agreed.  I've done a lot of threesomes and generally, if the client has seen you a lot, he'll focus most of his attention on the girl he doesn't know so well.  I've had bookings where I've spent most of my time watching and being encouraging ::)  I still expect to get paid whether I shag the client or not.

Very true.

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #28 on: 02 May 2012, 08:06:51 pm »
Thanks again girls! Yeah it is a problem with regulars to be sure. I really am starting to go off having regulars. I have a couple of wonderful ones who I adore and always pay up front but the rest, like some of you said, just get "confused" and suddenly think money isn't part of it.

Well here's to being more assertive. Thanks for the advice and yes I will add something to my site and definitely try Jodie's trick (love it!)

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Re: generous client didn't pay
« Reply #29 on: 02 May 2012, 08:50:48 pm »
I think it makes things much easier if you (me, every WG) have a strict pre-booking 5 minutes that follows the same script every time, and remember to NEVER waiver from it, whether it's a newbie or a reg.

FOR EXAMPLE: Once you've/they've walked through the door and given/accepted a drink, greetings and "how's your day been", ask for the money/paperwork/envelope. If he pays up in cash, THEN you start the booking clock. If he says "oh, I have brought you a gift (instead?)" THEN you can make a judgement call as to whether you're happy to accept that gift in lieu of payment. If yes, start the booking clock. If no, request the fee again, and/or hand the gift back, and/or walk if he won't pay you your correct fee in those first 5 minutes.

Keeping it businesslike-but-friendly before the booking should iron out any confused.com clients and you can start the booking on the right foot. :)
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