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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: lapetitemort on 07 March 2017, 02:53:49 pm
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Hi girls
I'm a bit of an orgy lover in my personal life and so group sex is very natural to me - I'm considering organising a gangbang booking, as there seems to be high demand in my area. Just wondering if anybody has ever done one before? I have security available, but I'm just wondering how having security there (just one guy) might go down. I can either get somebody to police it by waiting in the next room (and the guys knowing he is there) OR by getting a fellow male escort to join in the gang bang as a security measure (one who I trust to have my back). I'm also thinking legality wise, is there any red tape I need to be careful of, if it were to take place in my incall apartment?
Thanks :)
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me and my friend organise our own, we dont have no security
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Hi girls
I'm a bit of an orgy lover in my personal life and so group sex is very natural to me - I'm considering organising a gangbang booking, as there seems to be high demand in my area. Just wondering if anybody has ever done one before? I have security available, but I'm just wondering how having security there (just one guy) might go down. I can either get somebody to police it by waiting in the next room (and the guys knowing he is there) OR by getting a fellow male escort to join in the gang bang as a security measure (one who I trust to have my back). I'm also thinking legality wise, is there any red tape I need to be careful of, if it were to take place in my incall apartment?
Thanks :)
Legal wise, if there was another escort present and being paid for sex then it could be classed as a brothel.
Can't comment on anything else as I'm not into anything larger than a foursome. But for me I'd definitely want some sort of security in place, unless I did it as invite only to existing regular customers.
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Legal wise, if there was another escort present and being paid for sex then it could be classed as a brothel.
Can I ask you if me and a mate tour together and work from separate hotel rooms does that make it legal? If we work in an apartment together then are we always illegal? Thanks
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Can I ask you if me and a mate tour together and work from separate hotel rooms does that make it legal? If we work in an apartment together then are we always illegal? Thanks
2 people in the same flat/apartment is yes illegal, using your own hotel room for you only then theres only 1 person so no illegal. will a hotel chuck you out if they find out.....yes probably, depends what hotel
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Can I ask you if me and a mate tour together and work from separate hotel rooms does that make it legal? If we work in an apartment together then are we always illegal? Thanks
Working in an apartment is definitely classed as a brothel - even if you're not there at the same time.
I am unsure about hotels. A strict interpretation of the law I think would say that if more than one sex worker uses the hotel (ever. Not at the same time) then it's a brothel, and the hotel managers could be charged. However I'm not aware of any cases in England where this has ever happened.
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Working in an apartment is definitely classed as a brothel - even if you're not there at the same time.
I am unsure about hotels. A strict interpretation of the law I think would say that if more than one sex worker uses the hotel (ever. Not at the same time) then it's a brothel, and the hotel managers could be charged. However I'm not aware of any cases in England where this has ever happened.
Hotels would all close down if that happened as they all without exception have working girls in their rooms, I think service providers help to fill hotels up so unless girls were causing complaints most hotels turn a blind eye. Having a gangbang in a room is risky but I confess I have done this twice some time ago. We all got away with it but how I will never know as there was some noise!
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Hotels would all close down if that happened as they all without exception have working girls in their rooms, I think service providers help to fill hotels up so unless girls were causing complaints most hotels turn a blind eye. Having a gangbang in a room is risky but I confess I have done this twice some time ago. We all got away with it but how I will never know as there was some noise!
I agree, I think most hotels know what's going on but as long as you don't trash your room, don't disturb other guests, and pay your bill, they don't care.
I've got to say that if I was staying at a hotel and there was a big noisy sex party (paid or otherwise!) going on next door when i was trying to sleep, I would complain. Did you do anything to try to mask the noise? Music or similar?
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They were both mid afternoon parties so most guests not in rooms but when I recall those times it was very risky mostly because of half a dozen or more men knocking on the door. I think we got away with it by pure luck.
One was just me and the men but the other one was even bigger, two women and something like 10 guys! I would not do it again ever! While I loved it at the time the thought of taking a chance like that again makes me shudder!
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Well actual prostitutes don't have to be present for a place to be a brothel, just people Illicitly Shagging :D. The part that pertains to parlours and flat shares would be under the definition of a brothel 'for the purposes of prostitution'.
I can't find the article I saw it on now, but I'm as sure as I can be that individual hotel rooms are treated as separate and discrete dwellings and therefore don't count as one single premises (in the same way, you wouldn't be affected if somebody was operating a brothel out of a flat in the same block as you, even if you also did incalls from your flat).
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The take away from that then would be that working in own hotel rooms is safest and most legal way of working and choose a hotel that's escort friendly.
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I'm thinking of using my normal in call apartment where I work from solo. So it's ok for me to host alone but not with another girl? So technically, duo bookings are illegal?
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I can't find the article I saw it on now, but I'm as sure as I can be that individual hotel rooms are treated as separate and discrete dwellings and therefore don't count as one single premises (in the same way, you wouldn't be affected if somebody was operating a brothel out of a flat in the same block as you, even if you also did incalls from your flat).
That's interesting Amy and would explain why I can't find any prosecutions on this basis.
Actually is that how they get away with having smoking rooms? (those hotels which still do.)
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I'm thinking of using my normal in call apartment where I work from solo. So it's ok for me to host alone but not with another girl? So technically, duo bookings are illegal?
of course they are, as above more than 1 sex worker in a premise is classed as a brothel
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That's interesting Amy and would explain why I can't find any prosecutions on this basis.
Actually is that how they get away with having smoking rooms? (those hotels which still do.)
Yes, I daresay it is. It's private property and they can do what I like, although how they get around it also being people's workplace (housekeeping for example) I honestly don't know.
The family staying two floors up have nothing to do with the couple at the end of the corridor who have nothing to do with me in my room - they're all completely separate, and there's no link between us at all. I don't know if knowing where and when a friend you're with is working from if you're travelling together makes a difference but I'd sincerely doubt it.
Back on topic, yes it would be a brothel wherever it was. Whether or not anybody would care is entirely dependent on how much you annoy the neighbours but if the place has thin walls and an overlooked entrance I would find somewhere else. Also don't forget to stagger the times punters arrive so they're not all hanging about outside at once.
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I'm thinking of using my normal in call apartment where I work from solo. So it's ok for me to host alone but not with another girl? So technically, duo bookings are illegal?
I looked it up and it looks as though the penalty can be 7 years in jail just for sharing a house or apartment, this is changing my entire plan. Even if its its unlikely I don't want any risk hanging over my head as I got overactive imagination and would overly worry and wouldn't sleep, potentially open to blackmail as well
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I looked it up and it looks as though the penalty can be 7 years in jail just for sharing a house or apartment, this is changing my entire plan. Even if its its unlikely I don't want the risk hanging over my head as I wouldn't sleep and what if someone tried to blackmail you like landlord
Blackmail is a lot more illegal than brothelkeeping, and the maximum penalties would normally only be dished out to somebody running a large or busy commercial premises rather than individuals in a flatshare, but a conviction would still go on your record.
It's fairly rare that a prosecution of this type happens and if I was renting I'd be far more worried about being kicked out for breaching the lease. Holding a gangbang may well be a good way to poke the tiger though.
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Well actual prostitutes don't have to be present for a place to be a brothel, just people Illicitly Shagging :D. The part that pertains to parlours and flat shares would be under the definition of a brothel 'for the purposes of prostitution'.
I can't find the article I saw it on now, but I'm as sure as I can be that individual hotel rooms are treated as separate and discrete dwellings and therefore don't count as one single premises (in the same way, you wouldn't be affected if somebody was operating a brothel out of a flat in the same block as you, even if you also did incalls from your flat).
I want to go on tour with Amy and be Amy's apprentice cause I'm sure she's a professor with a Phd ;D Your so knowledgable Amy! Thanks for sharing what you know, you wouldn't believe how much stuff I've changed because of what I've read and been told here ;D
Was planning on booking a hotel I carefully researched as well but not any more!!! Was saved by a recent thread to say it's not as work friendly as it used to be
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I want to go on tour with Amy and be Amy's apprentice cause I'm sure she's a professor with a Phd ;D Your so knowledgable Amy! Thanks for sharing what you know, you wouldn't believe how much stuff I've changed because of what I've read and been told here ;D
Was planning on booking a hotel I carefully researched as well but not any more!!! Was saved by a recent thread to say it's not as work friendly as it used to be
Haha agreed, she is a wealth of knowledge! Thanks Amy!
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Aside the legalities- My advice is I think it's worth having someone neutral on hand who isn't joining in to keep an eye on things, answer the door, take any calls- people will want directions, be late, confirm and so on. They can also serve drinks, hang coats up, keep things moving and also making sure they are using condoms- It's much harder to keep a track on such things if you've got a cock in your mouth and numerous men around you.
It's also useful if you need a break to have someone saying can you give her 5 minutes and if you are in a flat an extra person can keep an eye on people not wandering into rooms they shouldn't be or being naughty in other ways. That way you can focus on the job at hand.
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Aside the legalities- My advice is I think it's worth having someone neutral on hand who isn't joining in to keep an eye on things, answer the door, take any calls- people will want directions, be late, confirm and so on. They can also serve drinks, hang coats up, keep things moving and also making sure they are using condoms- It's much harder to keep a track on such things if you've got a cock in your mouth and numerous men around you.
It's also useful if you need a break to have someone saying can you give her 5 minutes and if you are in a flat an extra person can keep an eye on people not wandering into rooms they shouldn't be or being naughty in other ways. That way you can focus on the job at hand.
Great advice, thanks!