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samcas

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Non penetration service - will it work?
« on: 22 April 2024, 02:31:32 pm »
After years of being in the business and providing a full on range of services, I'm have reduced my offering. Mainly to do with health (I've had my share of pregnancy, bowel problems from anal, BV and chlamydia/pelvic problems). On top of that, I just get a bit yuk factor from sex with most men - so I don't want to provide oral, intercourse or fingering/touching my genitals anymore.

I did initially throw away all my sex work clothing etc and close my AW account. I have a job in a factory to try and make ends meet but I do still get calls from regulars and my number is on a site with stolen details so I still get calls that I ignore but I have 2 guys who I still see because I trust them and like them as kind of friends - plus I need the money. These 2 accept a hand job only service and what I suppose is voyeurism (I can't do massages and don't want to) - although I did agree to full sex with one of them last week which I now regret (I agreed and willingly did it so not forced). Initially I did service this topless and wore knickers and tights to stop any down below "access" but as time has gone on I have latched on that these regulars get a kick out of looking at me masturbate whilst they play with themselves (easier than a hand job and no need to touch their body fluids - no condoms to buy either - just boxes of tissues!). It is more than I planned to offer but it keeps them coming back and I'm comfortable with that. One of the regulars sees another escort who offers this voyeurism service and says she is doing a good business. I have looked at her AW profile and she gets regular, good reviews but seems cheap priced.

I'm now thinking of restarting AW for hand jobs and voyeurism service only - has anyone done this and been successful or are my 2 hanging on regulars just rare men with odd kinks?

I'm also a bit concerned about potential clients not being able to control themselves - I'm quite vunerable in the voyeurism set-up. Will some get carried away and push for full sex - I'm OK with my regulars but maybe anxious about new clients.

I need more money and want to ditch my factory job but I can't go back to my old business

Any advice from you experienced girls?

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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #1 on: 22 April 2024, 04:17:13 pm »
A few years ago, there was someone who specialised in this - I am not sure if clients got a hand job, or just watched her masturbate in a variety of ways - and was clearly getting satisfied customers.

For hand jobs on men, see Louis Paget's How to be a great lover which has a whole section on this. You might consider adding 'tie and tease' to the menu, because some of them are very difficult to stay still for when nreceiving.

If you can't find a copy, PM me and I will see if I have a PDF.
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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #2 on: 22 April 2024, 06:48:38 pm »
After years of being in the business and providing a full on range of services, I'm have reduced my offering. Mainly to do with health (I've had my share of pregnancy, bowel problems from anal, BV and chlamydia/pelvic problems). On top of that, I just get a bit yuk factor from sex with most men - so I don't want to provide oral, intercourse or fingering/touching my genitals anymore.

I did initially throw away all my sex work clothing etc and close my AW account. I have a job in a factory to try and make ends meet but I do still get calls from regulars and my number is on a site with stolen details so I still get calls that I ignore but I have 2 guys who I still see because I trust them and like them as kind of friends - plus I need the money. These 2 accept a hand job only service and what I suppose is voyeurism (I can't do massages and don't want to) - although I did agree to full sex with one of them last week which I now regret (I agreed and willingly did it so not forced). Initially I did service this topless and wore knickers and tights to stop any down below "access" but as time has gone on I have latched on that these regulars get a kick out of looking at me masturbate whilst they play with themselves (easier than a hand job and no need to touch their body fluids - no condoms to buy either - just boxes of tissues!). It is more than I planned to offer but it keeps them coming back and I'm comfortable with that. One of the regulars sees another escort who offers this voyeurism service and says she is doing a good business. I have looked at her AW profile and she gets regular, good reviews but seems cheap priced.

I'm now thinking of restarting AW for hand jobs and voyeurism service only - has anyone done this and been successful or are my 2 hanging on regulars just rare men with odd kinks?

I'm also a bit concerned about potential clients not being able to control themselves - I'm quite vunerable in the voyeurism set-up. Will some get carried away and push for full sex - I'm OK with my regulars but maybe anxious about new clients.

I need more money and want to ditch my factory job but I can't go back to my old business

Any advice from you experienced girls?

Have you thought about setting up web cam services and also content selling for this on only fans. You would still get top up money and much safer.

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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #3 on: 22 April 2024, 07:38:23 pm »
Thanks for responses to my post.

I have tried camming in the past and I have found it really hard work with lots of time spent for little cash compared to full on escort work. maybe escort work spoilt me cus you do get a lot of £ per hour spent on it. To be honest I get more from working in a factory than cam work - but factory work does mean getting up at 5am which i can do without

I have done porn in the past for big names but either got little money or nothing and now have the chore of chasing online porn sites to take down my videos that have been shared without any payment to me. If anyone is thinking of an income from porn don't do it. I think I got paid about £2 per hour for my porn work and it has been viewed more than a million times

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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #4 on: 22 April 2024, 08:18:57 pm »
Samcas on aw phone chat  dosnt generate a huge amount of money but over  time.your credits will build up  it's free to display and you can talk about anything with the guys also you could say you only offer services of your choice if they are interested in visiting .

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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #5 on: 23 April 2024, 07:40:23 am »
I appreciate you don't want to do massage but in my opinion that is the category you should be aiming at
There are loads of men who book sensual massages and all they want is a hand job. In my opinion it will be easier in calling it a massage but stress it is a lingam massage and you don't do deep tissue or therapeutic work. You could add topless and oral to the services. As we know men as simple creatures so it is easier to offer something they think they understand rather than create a new category they haven't heard of before. Another thing you could consider is buying a magic wand or massage gun and using that if you don't want to use your hands to massage. 

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« Reply #6 on: 26 May 2024, 03:25:23 pm »
I thought I'd give you all an upate on my change in profile - now that I'm a month on. I did not big up the massage as a headline service - I hate doing them. Most definitely a voyeuristic offerning.

The first week was slow and I'm gradually picking up new clients and one or two former clients. There is a definite change in the type of men that have come to see me - they are definitely older. Mostly over 50 and some 65 plus. I have not seen one guy under 40.

So far no boundary pushers - some have hinted at wanting "extras" and I have refused apart from one old regular who likes his bj with a condom who I really enjoy seeing.

I probably set my price a bit low - but I'm leaving it where it is to build up a new client base. I have also added on some kinky none penetrative activities to charge as extras and last week, every client paid for an extra which was easy and safe to provide. I'm happier and healthier working this way. No thrush, no BV or soreness.

To put it in perspective, I made about two thirds of the income I would have made on a really good month under my old anything goes profile.

I have asked clients to give reviews but so far nothing..... I think some reviews could help bring in more clients and hopefully I'm gonna move to a better incall location next month - cheaper and no nosey neighbours (had one comment last week from next door).

Thanks for all the advice you gave me - it helped give me confidence to change the way I work :) :)

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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #7 on: 15 June 2024, 03:53:42 pm »
I appreciate you don't want to do massage but in my opinion that is the category you should be aiming at
There are loads of men who book sensual massages and all they want is a hand job. In my opinion it will be easier in calling it a massage but stress it is a lingam massage and you don't do deep tissue or therapeutic work. You could add topless and oral to the services. As we know men as simple creatures so it is easier to offer something they think they understand rather than create a new category they haven't heard of before. Another thing you could consider is buying a magic wand or massage gun and using that if you don't want to use your hands to massage.

This is along the right lines. Hand Jobs are a mainstream service. The downside is that they tend to be quicker and lower price, and that is what is expected. It is surprising though how many men go for it. I suppose many of them feel it's not cheating, and that is up to them. If you develop your technique by introducing edging and so forth a lot of repeat bookings can result. I agree it is a good idea to call it a lingam massage and make it clear that is what it is concentrated on. I'm not keen on doing massages either, but hand jobs are usually straightforward and get to the desired result without a lot of effort. It's worth trying different oils. I find coconut oil good, especially if you warm it up first.
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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #8 on: 15 June 2024, 07:47:11 pm »
I was surprised how many clients wanted massage with oral or hand relief recently.
Sometimes I feel relieved to have such easy bookings but I just offer the 30 mins as the shortest visit time .

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Re: Non penetration service - will it work?
« Reply #9 on: 16 June 2024, 02:53:52 pm »
I'm finding that many of my clients simply don't want a hand job or a massage - they are happy to sort themselves out and take in a voyeuristic experience. Men (particularly the older ones) are stimulated by a sexual "display" and can orgasm better with their own physical stimulation.

I also think that the low/no touch makes the older guys feel that it is not cheating - most of them are married. I also think they like being watched by a woman when they masturbate and cum.

I had one of my best ever weeks last week - lots of repeat clients who get a kick out of watching me masturbate whilst they do the same. No boundary pushers that I thought I would get.

There is a limit to how much service I can provide without getting sore - but it is more than I could do with full sex service.

Sammy