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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Amandasussex on 27 April 2011, 06:57:48 pm
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just been asked for this but hadn't heard of it before. had a quick look on here and only reference was to a scammer. Anyone know anything about it? (could be fun - lol) x
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I've had guys on dating sites ask me if I was interested in it.
I wouldn't want it in a personal relationship because I like things to be balanced. If attempting it as a working relationship, one would need to consider time input vs ? output
Also, relationships like this tend to pay in gifts rather than coin, and while shoes are pretty and I love them, I can't eat them
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While it does happen I think the majority of people who say they just want to give you money are going to be timewasters of some sort. Even if they get off on the idea, it doesn't mean they're going to do it. Personally I wouldn't go far into any discussion with a prospective financial sub until he'd sent me some money.
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Every enquiry I've ever had of this nature turned out to be a timewaster. One got to the point of making an appointment to meet (he wanted to be locked into a chastity device and then financially dominated, so he booked for the locking up) and then five minutes before he was due, started texting saying he'd 'only got ?20' and could he pay me the rest later. I figured even if he was genuine, he was going to be a bigger hassle than it was worth to extract tiny amounts from him and probably spending more than I got in text credit.
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Yep, mostly timewasters. I always tell them to prove it by sending me an amazon voucher, just for the fun of it. No takers yet. ;D
Jas x
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thank you girls - he wants blackmail too - will try for a voucher (actually that's another question - how does that work?)
I had never heard of it until today - but thought it sounded fun. ... i'm still wondering. However - I don't have much experience of domination and certainly don't advertise as such.
Just wondering though.. time waster or not - i suppose it's not like usual domination - more role-play
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I think there's someone doing this on AW - there's always a new reverse booking, it seems, saying "no meet required! Just make me pay!" or similar. He says he wants financial domination but for all we know, he just likes getting 2,467 bids on his reverse bookings. He's definitely getting a lot of free attention whether or not he's actually getting off on the financial bit. I might be the odd whore out here but I'd definitely rather meet a genuine client for a regular appointment and receive nice real money than fight with every other prossie in London over a hundred imaginary pounds! ;D
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Assume timewaster until proven otherwise, and the blackmail bit makes me think it's even more likely that he's just after a bit of text domination.
Go for a gift voucher or phone top up for the initial show of interest and then you can work out how to get proper money if anything comes of it. 360 vouchers should work, or if he's local you could tell him to leave a paper bag full of unmarked notes next to a bin ;D.
I have a phone client who pops up every now and then for long chats about mostly mundane stuff, and I let him pay directly into my bank account, though I know most people aren't happy with that. He seems a good bloke and also has financial sub tenancies, but he's never actually paid up more than the ?1/minute for talking.
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will try for a voucher (actually that's another question - how does that work?)
You point them at http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/gc (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/gc), they give Amazon your email address plus some money and you get an 'XXX sent you an Amazon.co.uk Gift Certificate!' email from Amazon with a code number. You can then use that to pay for stuff from Amazon.
You don't need to know anything about them, all they need to know about you is your email address, Amazon don't get sniffy about why they've sent it, and once you have it, I don't think there's any way they can get it back. So all in all, better than Paypal, if you buy stuff from Amazon.
There are people who advertise financial domination as a service, but like so much else, I wonder how many clients they actually get for it. The wishlists seem to stay the same (just how many copies of a particular CD\DVD\book does anyone want?)
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Re: Amazon
I have seen some ladies actually have a link on their wishlists which if you click points directly to their own Amazon wishlist with items they desire so the punter can just purchase them for her - I have no idea how you set that up though, maybe someone here can enlighten
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Hello :D
Newbie here (first post WOOT!) so sorry if I stuff it up lol.
I'm in Australia and I have three clients I do financial dom with and they're all from the UK (London I think). I saw them as clients when they were in Sydney and then they went home and wanted to keep talking to me.
I kept ignoring their emails, calls and texts because they weren't in Sydney so thought there was no point and then all three offered to pay me money to text, talk or email with them.
I gave them my business bank account details and then money started appearing in my bank account. I'd then get a text from them saying they had deposited money so now could they talk to me. I kept ignoring them so they put more money in until I agreed to talk to them.
I find the longer I ignore them, the more they keep depositing and then eventually when I'm bored I'll send them a list of porn directions on how I want them to jerk off that night and they send me text messages as they do it to clarify anything they can't seem to understand or get in the right position for. I send back I'm not interested in excuses or hearing how they can't do what I tell them to do and only contact me with results. A few hours later I get an email saying missions accomplished.
A week later more money appears and the emails requesting instructions begin again.
I feel a bit guilty every now and then, but I get over it :)
The emails I send take me quite a while to write. Having to try and think up new ways to get them to jerk off or new little missions to do can be a stretch. It's especially hard if you only spent 1 hour with them in person and you have to try and remember their likes and dislikes because you have to tailor each email to their likes and dislikes. You can of course "borrow" ideas from literotica sites ;)
I've never had anyone in Australia ask me for it as a private/independent worker and I've been a sex worker here for 15 years. However, when I worked in a dungeon here, I use to make 1/2 of my weekly income out of financial slaves and all I had to do was send them a pic or talk to them on the phone for 5 minutes every now and then. Again all of these guys were overseas (Israel and UK mainly).
I know some girls in the US who do it and make a PACKET but they market as ProDoms. If I was going to do it as a GFE private worker, I'd market it in a more subtle tender way like "for my lovers who I miss and who miss me, let's stay in touch... BARGAIN RATE OF $$$$$" lol.
Goooood luck and you never know if you don't give it a go (but I would be SUPER careful re: time wasters like the other ladies have already discussed).
Lucy
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Go for a gift voucher or phone top up for the initial show of interest and then you can work out how to get proper money if anything comes of it.
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yep - this.
Financial domination is a real fetish, try typing it into google, there are people out there making money. I've had a few inquiries along these lines as others have said mostly it is just people who want to talk. I make sure I ask for some proof upfront of their honest intention and ABILITY to be a financial slave. The last one didn't come through with the weekly payments but the ?50 top up voucher for my pre-pay did make me feel happier about the time spent talking to him.
I also felt guilty about the idea until some one pointed out that I wouldn't respond that way if someone asked me for any other kind of fetish service I offer.
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Re: Amazon
I have seen some ladies actually have a link on their wishlists which if you click points directly to their own Amazon wishlist with items they desire so the punter can just purchase them for her - I have no idea how you set that up though, maybe someone here can enlighten
there's a feature button once you have set up your Amazon wishlist which gives an 'add to Wish list' tab in your browser window, then if you are looking at shoes/clothes/sex toys...whatever... you can click to easily add this to your Amazon list.
sorry I don't know how to describe this in a way that makes sense ::) the feature is called 'universal wish list'.
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Thank you Lucy -i really did need it spelled out - and you have explained it well - as a mixture between the gfe and domming. You also confirmed what i thought - that you would at least have a booking to begin with.
needless to say haven't heard back - but thank you for advice for future reference x
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I am a professional Dominatrix, and have gone through the ring-rolls of a full year of training in Australia, before coming out to UK.
I can say from experience that around 90% of financial dom submissives are various degrees of time-wasting or insufficient funds to afford the costs of an escort or dominatrix's time, and only about 10% serious and with the money to back it up.
One of my colleagues is known for doing financial domination, and virtually runs on major fetish financial domination and blackmail, predominantly lawyers who have sought her out. She is fierce, and has them agree to "no code red" clauses (no back-out / safeword), gets specific information they offer her, and has them confirm it on an answer machine or in writing, using that to up the ante. However believe it or not, she still does this very ethically, but is good at her game. And the point of the game is to make it seem real. To make out that she really would walk into their law office with a full black leather catsuit on carrying a riding crop, and expose them.
I personally steer clear of financial domination as timewasters are abound, and I would rather just get on and do a great session of BDSM and corporal punishment, rather than waste my time on the phone or email with someone who is unlikely to really go through with it.
Also, part of the dynamic of financial domination and blackmail is that the sub often at some point turns around and plays back, blackmailing the Dom / escort. Trying to find out where THEY live, etc.
So to the inexperienced, I would say think through this first and consider whether it is worthwhile really?!
xx
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wow!
That would be hardcore work at that level! I live at the vanilla boring end of the spectrum from that.
Hope all goes well for you in the UK LadyNight
IGP
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lol - yes, yes it is.
Good luck to you too.
xx LN
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Demand they prove themselves worthy.
?50 paypal payment to your paypal account associated with your email address, within ten minutes.
{remember, this was their idea}
Then forget them as they never do pay.
Don't engage with these tossers; they are getting free wanking fun at your cost {timewise}
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There might be some more money to be had, but he sounds pretty tedious to me and if it's just going to come in in 10s and 20s I wouldn't bother. Don't get into blackmailing at this point; he's going to get a massive thrill out of it and so far he's only paid you a tenner.
If I was going to take it further I might suggest a meet somewhere public (but I know not everyone's comfortable with that), or use DirectCam/Chat on AW for some pay-per-minute conversation.
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Hi - I've been asked for this recently, but didn't know where to start, so this thread's been a big help!
I was wondering about payments direct into bank accounts - I do have a dormant one that I could use, but wouldn't I need to give my RL name to the client? Or do banks literally just need account number and sort code - even for online banking - these days?
Thanks! :)
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If you've transferred money to someone online and entered a name, that was for your reference, not the bank's, and you could have written anything there. However if someone goes to a branch in person to deposit money into your account (which some people prefer to do for the anonymity), it's likely that they'll be given your first initial and last name.
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If you've transferred money to someone online and entered a name, that was for your reference, not the bank's, and you could have written anything there. However if someone goes to a branch in person to deposit money into your account (which some people prefer to do for the anonymity), it's likely that they'll be given your first initial and last name.
Thanks for that. Hmmm. I don't think it will cause a problem as my name isn't particularly unusual, and they won't get far with my initial and surname.
I shall put more thought into this.
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Hi - I've been asked for this recently, but didn't know where to start, so this thread's been a big help!
I was wondering about payments direct into bank accounts - I do have a dormant one that I could use, but wouldn't I need to give my RL name to the client? Or do banks literally just need account number and sort code - even for online banking - these days?
Thanks! :)
I've been asked about this aswell, and I also have an account I could use but I do wonder if it's safe to give a client my bank details (account number,sort code etc). Would they then be able to take money faudulently from my account if they chose to??
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Oh you know what, scratch that last post. if the guy is desperate to pay me then he'll figure it out. damnit he can open a secret bank account if he needs to. bloody married men ey. ::)
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Hi - I've been asked for this recently, but didn't know where to start, so this thread's been a big help!
I was wondering about payments direct into bank accounts - I do have a dormant one that I could use, but wouldn't I need to give my RL name to the client? Or do banks literally just need account number and sort code - even for online banking - these days?
Thanks! :)
I've been asked about this aswell, and I also have an account I could use but I do wonder if it's safe to give a client my bank details (account number,sort code etc). Would they then be able to take money faudulently from my account if they chose to??
None of mine have ever come to fruition, so I don't have this worry yet! I give them a "first test", where I say they have to buy me ?XX in Amazon vouchers (I give them the link and my email addy) and if they can't pass that test then I don't want to hear from them again, and NOT ONE (out of more than 10) guy has followed through, nor have they even tried to bother me again. I think there's lots of guys who THINK they might like it who actually get scared when the cold light of day dawns and a demanding email from the anonymous hussy lands in their inbox...
To answer your question, they wouldn't be able to take cash out, but they might be able to set up direct debits, although if you keep a close eye on your account you'd be able to monitor any fraudulent behaviour.
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I had a young'un asking to be my slave, but was not interested in paying me for my time. "No, I want to work for you for free and be your slave."
good-bye.
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I had a young'un asking to be my slave, but was not interested in paying me for my time. "No, I want to work for you for free and be your slave."
good-bye.
HA! I get LOADS of these requests. They leave me alone when I say that they have to PAY ME for the priviledge of serving me.
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@CatBBW,
Thanks for the reply. I gave him a smallish test to send me ?XX worth of phone credit vouchers and he did, score! I needed cred XD.
As for the stuff regarding my bank account I spoke to him about it and basicly said what I said on here after I posted the question.
He is now wanting to do real time bookings and social bookings. See if I can weedle him round to my way of thinking while he pays me for it.
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I had a young'un asking to be my slave, but was not interested in paying me for my time. "No, I want to work for you for free and be your slave."
Basically he wants a free dom session. They must think we're stupid and love to work for free or something. ???
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@CatBBW,
Thanks for the reply. I gave him a smallish test to send me ?XX worth of phone credit vouchers and he did, score! I needed cred XD.
As for the stuff regarding my bank account I spoke to him about it and basicly said what I said on here after I posted the question.
He is now wanting to do real time bookings and social bookings. See if I can weedle him round to my way of thinking while he pays me for it.
Excellent! Looks like you have a genuine 'findom' starting! Let us know how it goes :)