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Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« on: 15 June 2010, 06:57:13 am »
Yes, thats an angry face. Here's what happened...had someone come over for what was supposed to be an hour appointment. Well then, he agrees to do 90 minutes, but I just didn't want to make him get up and give out more money. My mistake.

At the end, he only paid me for an hour...and then pulled a "well if you're around tomorrow". I was like, "it was worth the extra". He then kinda shrugged it off and began to walk out.

I have been doing this alot, it gets close to the hour and people want another half. And usually they go for it and pay again after or if I didn't get the money upfront they'll do the whole thing (yes, sometimes I 'waive' the money upfront if they are unsure how long they want to stay). But after this, I'm wondering...will it kill the mood if I make them get up (naked and erect) and get the extra money? How do you handle it?  

All I know, is I'm feeling a bit cheated. Which means for the next few weeks I'm going to be extra strict and if they want more time, they gonna have to get dressed and walk to their car butt ass naked in front of everyone if thats what it takes to get my fucking money for allowing extra time  >:(

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Re: Aint that some shit?
« Reply #1 on: 15 June 2010, 12:21:22 pm »
Joey whos "mood" are you worried about killing? Theirs or your own when you get shorted? Im no clock watcher but would not be worried if somebody lost thier hard on rather than walked without paying! Whats the first thing we tell newbies? Get the cash up front.
The client has not "forgotten" he owes you money, hes probably taking advantage. If hes got the nerve to do that then you can get the nerve to ask for payment if he wishes to extend his booking. It can feel awkward at first but after a few times its easy to deal with cheeky beggars.
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Re: Aint that some shit?
« Reply #2 on: 15 June 2010, 05:28:51 pm »
They don't forget their money in the car when they are out to a restaurant, when they order and extra bottle of wine? So why the hell should you have to put up with this type of clear disrespect? Remember Joey, you are a WB, you are doing this to earn what.....?  That's right  da Benjamins! Not sympathy or more dick, or a good screw, but M_O_N_E_Y!

If a client of mine wants to stay over the time, it is the perfect time for a break, sort out the finances, have a drink. They are men, they will quickly get back in the mood. Time is M_O_N_E_Y! You are not running a charity!
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Re: Aint that some shit?
« Reply #3 on: 15 June 2010, 06:29:44 pm »
Violette, LOL. Thanks for the laugh!
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Re: Aint that some shit?
« Reply #4 on: 16 June 2010, 10:26:13 am »
Quote from: css3456 on 15 June 2010, 06:29:44 pm
Violette, LOL. Thanks for the laugh!
Always glad to be of service. :)
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #5 on: 17 June 2010, 04:25:10 am »
Quote from: American Joey on 15 June 2010, 06:57:13 am
But after this, I'm wondering...will it kill the mood if I make them get up (naked and erect) and get the extra money? How do you handle it?  

My way is to smile sweetly and go "we need to sort the money out first before continuing". And if the client goes "oh, I'll pay you afterwards I promise." I then smile back and repeat "yes, but we need to sort the money out first..."

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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #6 on: 17 June 2010, 11:35:37 am »
Well if it's any consolation, you aren't the only one Joey. It's happened to me twice in the last 12 months  and I can't even claim inexperience as an excuse. Makes me so angry when I think about it..
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #7 on: 17 June 2010, 09:09:36 pm »
Quote from: Sarita on 17 June 2010, 11:35:37 am
Well if it's any consolation, you aren't the only one Joey. It's happened to me twice in the last 12 months  and I can't even claim inexperience as an excuse. Makes me so angry when I think about it..


Often I find that clients who extend have to go the bank/get it from god knows where or owe it to you.

While it can seem rude to break up a meeting and talk about cash on a extension, that extension will directly affect your day as you will have to rearrange prebooked clients, and in my experiance that aint easy.

So unless it is quiet, I tell them I am busy and they will have to rebook. No excuse to have no cash, no awkward conversation. And if they dont come back well, que sera.



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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #8 on: 17 June 2010, 10:23:31 pm »
Quote from: Lucy Chambers on 17 June 2010, 09:09:36 pm
So unless it is quiet, I tell them I am busy and they will have to rebook. No excuse to have no cash, no awkward conversation. And if they dont come back well, que sera.

Yeah, I don't tend to do appointment extensions at all. But then, 80% of my clients I think work in the area so can't be extending all over the place without risking their jobs. It suits me to have everything planned out beforehand as the technical increased risk to my personal safety that goes up a maybe half a percent every time I invite another strange man to my flat stresses out the back of my brain a lot. Keeping it all predictable and planned and 'safe' makes me feel better! And I don't work nights, for more of the same reasons. Clients at night, from my previous agency experience, are WAY more like, "Ooh I just had a great idea! Let's do everything totally different to what I said I wanted before!" but as time goes on and I realise what happens to intelligent, safety-conscious women every day, I feel less like obliging a client's random whims - if it's not something he wanted enough to tell me about in advance, then it's a no-can-do, most likely. :-\
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #9 on: 17 June 2010, 10:43:25 pm »
Quote from: EmilyJones on 17 June 2010, 10:23:31 pm
Quote from: Lucy Chambers on 17 June 2010, 09:09:36 pm
So unless it is quiet, I tell them I am busy and they will have to rebook. No excuse to have no cash, no awkward conversation. And if they dont come back well, que sera.

Yeah, I don't tend to do appointment extensions at all. But then, 80% of my clients I think work in the area so can't be extending all over the place without risking their jobs. It suits me to have everything planned out beforehand as the technical increased risk to my personal safety that goes up a maybe half a percent every time I invite another strange man to my flat stresses out the back of my brain a lot. Keeping it all predictable and planned and 'safe' makes me feel better! And I don't work nights, for more of the same reasons. Clients at night, from my previous agency experience, are WAY more like, "Ooh I just had a great idea! Let's do everything totally different to what I said I wanted before!" but as time goes on and I realise what happens to intelligent, safety-conscious women every day, I feel less like obliging a client's random whims - if it's not something he wanted enough to tell me about in advance, then it's a no-can-do, most likely. :-\

Yup, completely agree. If they get there and start wanting to scale the heights of domination, overnight or sometimes just an hour more, without the mental prep I need to do it really aint happening...But on a different note, I normally only take clients over 26. After a cancellation the other day I sat quietly stewing only to receive a call from a very well bred chap, asks all the right info and then at the end says-

"By the way, Im only 20, but I promise I am well behaved...is that ok?"

Now normally I would say no. I cannot bear it when I feel like I have to teach a guy to thrust. But the devil of greed was in me..of course I purred, come now..

*imagining easy peasy booking of the take the candy from the baby variety*

He arrives. Six foot tall, perfect skin and clutching a bottle of moet...turns out he is a baby wine merchant from a obviously well heeled family..

And fucked me for 57 minutes solid. Every position. All angles. Infact at the end he was putting the lube on for me and telling me in perfect rc..please dont worry Lucy, I will definately stand any extra bill .. ;Dat the end I actually said the immortal phrase "take your time baby...." God I love my job sometimes
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #10 on: 18 June 2010, 12:37:09 am »
I've been ripped off to the tune of ?1800.  I was going to post something about this a while ago, but really felt too fucking stupid.  The first time was with a bloke who is mega wealthy and in the public eye.  His 'minder' booked me for a 2 hour, for which I was paid upfront and then he asked me to stay all night, which I did. In the morning I asked him for the rest of the money and he gave me what he had in his wallet, which was about ?50.  I asked him about the rest and he just said he'd give it me 'next time'. I hassled the minder for the money for a while and then gave up.

The second one booked me for dinner and then asked me to stay overnight, which I did.  He then asked me to go to London with him, before he got a flight to the States. I made it clear what my fee would be, which he agreed, but he managed not to actually hand over any more cash and he basically owes me for two overnights minus the dinner date fee.  He still agrees he owes me the money, but won't send it.  I've written both of these off, but every so often they keep me awake at night! Any ideas?
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #11 on: 18 June 2010, 03:17:41 am »
Send them each a message saying that after much thought and consideration you must report them to the relevant forums. Explain that it really isnt your thing, but you feel both abused and used. Explain in full that the escorting world is a small one, and unless he compensates you for your time you are obligated to report him to all relevant boards and forums.

If this does not work, email one more time. This email should read.."you are now marked as a timewaster. Your number has been circulated and your bookings will be refused."
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #12 on: 18 June 2010, 08:25:33 am »
Quote from: Lucy Chambers on 17 June 2010, 10:43:25 pm
If they get there and start wanting to scale the heights of domination, overnight or sometimes just an hour more, without the mental prep I need to do it really aint happening...

That's a really good way of putting it, much more succinct and clear than me with my madwoman ramblings! :P Mental prep meaning everything from the day's scheduling, safety measures and general getting ready, as well as going through mentally what the booking should entail and even thinking up new ideas and things to try or remembering to get in a bottle of wine if you know the client likes a glass. It's a nice short term for the frankly huge amount of information that you need to keep in your brain for every booking! And so with last minute changes ("oh, can we push it back to 3pm? Actually, wait, no, I'd like earlier - 1.30pm. No, 5pm!" before the booking, or "I've suddenly decided I want watersports so now you have to politely explain that you don't offer that service and/or haven't had time to drink enough, without making me sulky so I don't write a bad report") it's understandable to find them a little more problematic than just not being able to find organic tomatoes in your local Tesco. Because Tesco might have its dangers, lol, but not like escorting does, and so you don't need to be quite so on top of things there in case something goes horribly wrong.

As for younger clients - I screen the young'ins a bit more fiercely than the older ones, too! But you're right, sometimes they are very self-possessed young men with plenty of confidence and enough worldly wisdom to manage sex with an escort without any tears or tantrums. ;D Don't get me started on the few that can't, though!
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #13 on: 18 June 2010, 10:21:41 am »
Quote from: Lucy Chambers on 18 June 2010, 03:17:41 am
Send them each a message saying that after much thought and consideration you must report them to the relevant forums. Explain that it really isnt your thing, but you feel both abused and used. Explain in full that the escorting world is a small one, and unless he compensates you for your time you are obligated to report him to all relevant boards and forums.

If this does not work, email one more time. This email should read.."you are now marked as a timewaster. Your number has been circulated and your bookings will be refused."

Unfortunately this won't work with either of them or else I would have done it already!
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Re: Extending bookings - getting paid upfront
« Reply #14 on: 18 June 2010, 10:41:01 am »
Quote from: Lucy Chambers on 18 June 2010, 03:17:41 am
Send them each a message saying that after much thought and consideration you must report them to the relevant forums. Explain that it really isnt your thing, but you feel both abused and used. Explain in full that the escorting world is a small one, and unless he compensates you for your time you are obligated to report him to all relevant boards and forums.

If this does not work, email one more time. This email should read.."you are now marked as a timewaster. Your number has been circulated and your bookings will be refused."

Unfortunately this is not true, since the vast majority of punters and prossies have no knowledge of or interest in boards and forums; he's unlikely to care and why would he? The chances of him not being able to get another booking are astronomically small unless it's with one of us or someone else who reads the message boards, lurker or otherwise.

This is another reason why it is so vital to report to the police in the event of threats, stalking or violence. SAAFE and the others is a valuable resource, but we have to remember that a large number of ladies and gents working have little or no regular access to the internet, and another large section will probably throw together a profile on AW and never bother finding out about anything else.

Back on topic, I've extended bookings before but made sure I got the money first, but this has certainly led to at least half suddenly starting to think with the big head again, changing their minds and leaving at the time planned. It does make me do wonder if they actually had enough with them, and what they were planning on saying if and when I found out they didn't.
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