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Couple of questions re OW/water and condoms
« on: 27 May 2012, 12:17:52 pm »
Hi all, got a couple of questions and I hope you'll bear with me. x


1. Oral with condom. Now, I've not got around alot with loads of guys. I virtually never gave oral - at all - to my own husband of 16 years but did lots of oral without with the partner I had after that (what was that all about I wonder?!). I've never done oral using a condom and I just cannot figure out how it would actually work and give a good sensation to the guy. I do like doing OWO but not with random punters. But I am so worried that I'll come to do it with a condom for the first time and it will just be utterly pants for the bloke. I'm super good at hand jobs so do I just get going with that then put the flavoured condom on and - what? To me BJs work because it's lips, mouth and tongue down directly on his skin that gives the pleasurable sensation - I'm not sure how he will get anything out of it or that he will enjoy it with the condom on? Can I really give a good BJ with it covered just using the same technique I would have used without condom? I fear for sucking a hole in it tbh lol!!!! Just NEVER done it before.

2. Got a 2 hour booking for next weekend at the place I use for in-calls. That will be a positive booking for me. He's been v respectful during all comms although a bit overly emaily since we booked but think he's just looking forward to it. He speaks of possible overnights (and yes, I've seen the negatives and exhaustion issues but I really need the money so if he wants to book an overnight and he's ok during the 2 hour then I would do that with him (if I felt he seemed ok and not a total fruit loop/disrespectful). And he'd get no discount off his 2 hr in lieu of the overnight let me tell you that. Anyway, back to the question. His overnight suggestion appears that it would be at his house (he states only if I'm totally comfortable having met him first and so on) - and he really wants some hot tub action. So this is my question - ie safety of condom staying on in that situation.... If we've been sloshing about in the water then his penis (even if miraculously still inside his trunks!) will be wet with hot tub water. Has anyone had experience of using condoms in this situation - does his willy need a quick dry with the towel before I put the condom on for sex??? Just wondered if y'all had any tips or pointers on this - don't want it slipping off for damn sure.

Thank you.x







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« Last Edit: 27 May 2012, 02:15:28 pm by amy »

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Re: Couple of questions.....
« Reply #1 on: 27 May 2012, 01:21:13 pm »
Hi all, got a couple of questions and I hope you'll bear with me. x


1. Oral with condom. Now, I've not got around alot with loads of guys. I virtually never gave oral - at all - to my own husband of 16 years but did lots of oral without with the partner I had after that (what was that all about I wonder?!). I've never done oral using a condom and I just cannot figure out how it would actually work and give a good sensation to the guy. I do like doing OWO but not with random punters. But I am so worried that I'll come to do it with a condom for the first time and it will just be utterly pants for the bloke. I'm super good at hand jobs so do I just get going with that then put the flavoured condom on and - what? To me BJs work because it's lips, mouth and tongue down directly on his skin that gives the pleasurable sensation - I'm not sure how he will get anything out of it or that he will enjoy it with the condom on? Can I really give a good BJ with it covered just using the same technique I would have used without condom? I fear for sucking a hole in it tbh lol!!!! Just NEVER done it before.

2. Got a 2 hour booking for next weekend at the place I use for in-calls. That will be a positive booking for me. He's been v respectful during all comms although a bit overly emaily since we booked but think he's just looking forward to it. He speaks of possible overnights (and yes, I've seen the negatives and exhaustion issues but I really need the money so if he wants to book an overnight and he's ok during the 2 hour then I would do that with him (if I felt he seemed ok and not a total fruit loop/disrespectful). And he'd get no discount off his 2 hr in lieu of the overnight let me tell you that. Anyway, back to the question. His overnight suggestion appears that it would be at his house (he states only if I'm totally comfortable having met him first and so on) - and he really wants some hot tub action. So this is my question - ie safety of condom staying on in that situation.... If we've been sloshing about in the water then his penis (even if miraculously still inside his trunks!) will be wet with hot tub water. Has anyone had experience of using condoms in this situation - does his willy need a quick dry with the towel before I put the condom on for sex??? Just wondered if y'all had any tips or pointers on this - don't want it slipping off for damn sure.

Thank you.x

I hate oral with condom, makes me gag, lol.  Maybe use the thinnest possible for that, flavoured if you like it.

Re the 2nd one, "overly emailing" and "hinting at overnights", I would not get worried about the hot tub issue because I doubt he will turn up for the first visit, let alone an overnight.  Classic fanatasist timewaster behaviour.  Let us know if he does actually show.  I would not do any more emailing/texting until you get a confirmation text/call on the day.

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Re: Couple of questions.....
« Reply #2 on: 27 May 2012, 01:25:12 pm »
Hi all, got a couple of questions and I hope you'll bear with me. x


1. Oral with condom. Now, I've not got around alot with loads of guys. I virtually never gave oral - at all - to my own husband of 16 years but did lots of oral without with the partner I had after that (what was that all about I wonder?!). I've never done oral using a condom and I just cannot figure out how it would actually work and give a good sensation to the guy. I do like doing OWO but not with random punters. But I am so worried that I'll come to do it with a condom for the first time and it will just be utterly pants for the bloke. I'm super good at hand jobs so do I just get going with that then put the flavoured condom on and - what? To me BJs work because it's lips, mouth and tongue down directly on his skin that gives the pleasurable sensation - I'm not sure how he will get anything out of it or that he will enjoy it with the condom on? Can I really give a good BJ with it covered just using the same technique I would have used without condom? I fear for sucking a hole in it tbh lol!!!! Just NEVER done it before.


Try Mates Skyns (non-latex condoms), they are super fine yet strong and most guys tell me they get amazing sensation when I do OW
« Last Edit: 27 May 2012, 01:29:17 pm by Mellow »

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Re: Couple of questions.....
« Reply #3 on: 27 May 2012, 01:35:24 pm »
Even though I have not been on the giving end of OW, I have been on the receiving end a couple of times due to partners who wanted to take zero STI risks, and using a non-latex condom makes a big difference because the heat transmission is much better. There is some friction effect, but yes, I think you need to suck a bit more than usual.

Water and penetrative sex do not go together very well. You don't need to get the towel out, but you do want to put the condom on (after a quick brushing off water with your hand as part of a handjob) and start the penetration outside the water.

In sex spaces that have hot tubs, from what I've seen, more underwater handjobs happen than anything else and the penetrative sex more often happens with someone sitting on the edge. Oh, yes, I presume you know what happens to semen in water...
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Re: Couple of questions.....
« Reply #4 on: 27 May 2012, 01:45:49 pm »
Got to admit in question two that there are so many red flags about I'm glad there are no bulls closehand.

I totally agree with Pandora re fantasist timewasting behaviour.  I don't believe he is ever going to show but would be nice to be proved wrong.

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Re: Couple of questions.....
« Reply #5 on: 27 May 2012, 02:14:09 pm »
Well I only do oral with, and I haven't starved [from lack of work] yet :).

I would agree again about the non-latex condoms; I'm allergic so use them anyway but they really make a difference. I only use Skyns but Durex make one called Bare (I think) which I tried once as they were on offer, although I found they tasted vile and just like any other Durex the fit was crap and they were too short. As far as 'normal' condoms go, Mates Natural are good too. The flavoured ones can smell very strong and I've never used them for work - I often wonder how hard it must be for the punter to get the smell off afterwards. You might choke a little on the teat part at first, but it's surprising how quickly you get used to it and it can help desensitise your gag reflex which is good for practising deep throat.

For technique, you've just got to do the usual thing but do it 'harder' - don't be rough or use your teeth, but you need to press a lot more firmly with your lips and tongue and vary your moves a bit, and if you don't mind a bit of licking and sucking around the balls if they're clean and fresh and not sporting an afro, this is often popular IME (and you can ask first to be on the safe side). Of course it feels better without a condom, but then so does shagging and that isn't a good enough reason for me to start doing either of them without. Ditto riding a motorcycle without a helmet - you get the idea :).

Whether he's a timewaster or not remains to be seen, but provided he follows your confirmation procedures (and try just ignoring texts/emails) then it shouldn't make any difference - he'll either be there or not, and talk of future bookings is irrelevant. That said, if it's a lot of emails, then it's probably cobblers; I find that these are the ones who tend to cancel at the last minute because they bottle it rather than being TWs per se, and I think a lot of it's down to nerves.
« Last Edit: 27 May 2012, 02:24:25 pm by amy »

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Re: Couple of questions.....
« Reply #6 on: 27 May 2012, 02:20:50 pm »
Well I only do oral with, and I haven't starved yet :).

Pardon the pun...? ;D :D

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Re: Couple of questions re OW/water and condoms
« Reply #7 on: 27 May 2012, 02:22:30 pm »
Sorry? I must be a bit slow today - I meant from lack of work ???





EDIT: Ah, I see. Off to edit the original after I've finished throwing up :-X.

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Re: Couple of questions re OW/water and condoms
« Reply #8 on: 27 May 2012, 02:36:55 pm »
Durex do a non-latex condom called 'Durex Deluxe'  They're expensive but really thin and totally transparent.  They are also 58mm which is larger than Skyns (53mm) and large Skyns (56mm).  Bit tricky to put on though as they don't stretch like a normal condom.  But I've had good feedback from clients.  I use them on the guys that are a bit large for skyns

OW - put a small drop of silicon lube on the head before you put the condom on.  Use more pressure than for OWO

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« Reply #9 on: 28 May 2012, 03:23:50 am »
Oh, yes, I presume you know what happens to semen in water...

HmmmI don't! lol
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« Reply #10 on: 28 May 2012, 04:46:34 pm »
Nearly all the water in the semen vanishes into the rest of the water and what you're left with is very, very stringy and very, very sticky. It also seems to have a homing instinct for hair and, if it can't manage that, skin.
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« Reply #11 on: 28 May 2012, 07:25:10 pm »
I think he is a TW but I hope you prove us all wrong and he does show!

I wouldnt worry to much about having sex in a hot tub as it probably wont work. I tried it in a swimming pool, hot tub etc with an ex boyfriend when I was younger and it did not work but good luck with the booking and hope it goes smoothly.

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« Reply #12 on: 28 May 2012, 07:28:49 pm »
I would echo what the other ladies have said - I use Skyns for OWO and just use a bit more pressure with lips, sucking action tongue.  clients still seem to love it :)  Also durex lube in strawberry or cherry flavours are very palettable and although the Skyns don't taste as bad as normal condoms, if you really don't like the taste a little drop of flavoured lube helps a lot.

I can't offer any advice on the hot tub I'm afraid.

Good luck Bananamuffin! :) xxx

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« Reply #13 on: 29 May 2012, 02:46:09 am »
Thanks xw5

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« Reply #14 on: 29 May 2012, 08:16:20 am »
Nearly all the water in the semen vanishes into the rest of the water and what you're left with is very, very stringy and very, very sticky. It also seems to have a homing instinct for hair and, if it can't manage that, skin.

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