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Dominating Contracts?
« on: 14 May 2011, 11:39:56 am »
Hi there!

I'm toying with the idea of offering female domination services, my buddy recently switched after being a sub for 6 years and is having a great time. To be honest I'm a bit envious of all the nice, polite guys she sees and that she can be a bitch to them if they annoy her!

But I wouldn't want to go into it without some kind of contract, saying that they requested the services I'm offering and as an example, if they ask me to spank them harder then they can handle I cannot be blamed for any overly red bottoms that wives/girl friends may notice.

Does anyone else offering Domme services use something like this? Do they work? And if, gods forbid, someone ask for more than they can handle and end up hurt, can this kind of disclaimer protect me?

Thanks

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Re: Dominating Contracts?
« Reply #1 on: 14 May 2011, 12:23:19 pm »
Hi Jessi

Spanking etc counts as 'Assault' in law and its not possible for someone to give their consent to be assaulted. No matter if they are sane in mind and body and they beg, plead and pay for you to hit them its not legal and you can still be prosecuted.  Making them sign a disclaimer wont protect you. If you google the 'Spanner case' you'll find all the facts but this legal precedent was tested all the way to the European Court of Human rights.

Whether that means that Dommes dont use contracts etc I don't know. Even if they dont hold up in a Court of Law they probably do act as a reminder to an overly ambitious sub of the risks that he runs once you get your spanking hand warmed up :)

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Re: Dominating Contracts?
« Reply #2 on: 14 May 2011, 12:35:23 pm »
Wow!

Thanks Ruby, that was a really interesting read!

You're right though, it may not serve any purpose legally, but it may be worth doing anyway, just to get a good idea of the boundaries the sub feels confident with...

I'd still love to hear from anyone who does use contracts, or any other methods Dommes use to cover their backs

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Re: Dominating Contracts?
« Reply #3 on: 14 May 2011, 01:44:26 pm »
But I wouldn't want to go into it without some kind of contract, saying that they requested the services I'm offering and as an example, if they ask me to spank them harder then they can handle I cannot be blamed for any overly red bottoms that wives/girl friends may notice.

Does anyone else offering Domme services use something like this? Do they work? And if, gods forbid, someone ask for more than they can handle and end up hurt, can this kind of disclaimer protect me?

Thanks

XxX

on the issue of marking: I generally ask people if they can be marked, it's the sort of information people volunteer.
I point out to clients that as far as I can tell I will not be leaving marks (if requested) but because each persons skin responds differently then there is always a risk - that risk is their responsibility.

In terms of people asking for more than they can handle - set something up in your screening process: inquire about previous experience, existing health issues. If the clients experience in 'none' or you don't feel confident about the activity then temper what they ask for with your own judgement.

accidents happen but guiding a session safely is part of what we get paid for.

I don't use 'disclaimer' contracts, I do communicate clearly and set limits. There is a level of risk in lots of the activities we do and sessions with relative strangers increases the risks - so best to always play it on the safe side.

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Re: Dominating Contracts?
« Reply #4 on: 17 May 2011, 03:39:05 pm »
If you are concerned about how much of a spanking etc. a person can take, it is probably best to have a "safe" word to use during your session.  By safe word I mean a word that would be used out of context during play, such as red or umbrella.  That way if you are hurting the client too much he can use the safe word, and you'll know to stop or ease up.  Don't use the word "stop" though, as experience has taught me that submissives like to beg/plead with you to stop whilst playing.  This is part of their role of been a submissive.
 As for a contract, Jessi is right about not been able to give their consent to assualt.  It wouldn't stand up in court.  Check out the link below
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1289216/Racing-boss-Robin-Mortimer-dies-sadistic-sex-session-perverted-dominatrix.html.  This is an extreame and rare case and Robin was a heavy user of poppers which in the end caused him to have a heart attack (although it is not mentioned in the article), so don't be put off.  It's just to give you an idea of how safe you want to play it.
You'd also be hard pushed to get anyone to sign one, as most clients are paranoid about their privacy, and would fear that the contract would be used other than in the session itself, or fall into the wrong hands.  It is however a good idea to ask if a client does have any health problems etc. before you start.  That way you can gage how far you want to go for your own safety as well as the clients. 

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Re: Dominating Contracts?
« Reply #5 on: 18 May 2011, 10:57:46 am »
The words to bear in mind are 'transient and trifling' (i.e. short lived and minor) when talking about sexual gratification play. Leaving marks that are more than that could get you into trouble legally, but you'd need to be unlucky.

But if you cannot spank / beat someone without leaving marks, pro domme work is not for you.

It's not a hard skill to learn, but you need to have it - a large proportion of your client?le will not want to have to explain those marks... and being blamed by furious partners is one way to be unlucky.
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