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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Ieaio on 14 February 2015, 12:35:59 pm
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I occasionally offer a glass of wine in the evenings, i specifically buy it in for clients as i am not a big drinker.
One client made a comment that i was cheeky as i'd already cracked open the bottle of wine.
Me & 1 client wont get through a whole bottle of wine in a booking, it's just for a casual drink if the men want it ( i don't drink during bookings because i'm a lightweight if nothing else 8) ) so i'm hardly going to chuck a bottle or have it lyeing around my house just because it's not a brand new bottle but i like offering it.
I don't really have a cabinet so i just leave it on my drawers table. Realized this could make me look like a drinker. Should i put it away in another room? Just i prefer not to leave clients alone in a room after money has passed hands.
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I would have told him that if he thinks it's so rude then he can just do without.
Your trying to do a good thing and he throws it back in your face, that couldn't have been a very good start to a booking.
If he requires a fresh bottle of wine for his bookings then he should bring his own.
xx
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You're not remotely cheeky - it was him who was being rude, especially since it was you who paid for the wine. He should be so lucky as to be treated as a guest, and be offered a glass of wine, even though he didn't have the manners to bring a bottle.
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Pfft. Bad manners, poor social skills. I bet that was tough going :-*
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What a twit. If you ever get a daft comment like that again just say "well you were more than welcome to bring one". I'm the same as you not wanting to leave them alone in the room. When I used to work from home I'd have those wine boxes with taps on in the room. So cheap for the amount you get in them.
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I always buy the mini bottles so they only get used once. I would never drink from an opened bottle of wine with a client, so I can understand if a guy wouldn't want to only for the safety issues. Then again, do punters worry about this? No idea...
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I wouldn't drink from a bottle that hadn't just opened, either but if his only objection is that he's not getting a whole bottle then that's rude. It's normal to have a bottle open and pour from it rather than drinking an entire bottle - although a snob might say otherwise because until recently decent wine was always corked and had to be emptied in one go.
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I always buy the mini bottles so they only get used once. I would never drink from an opened bottle of wine with a client, so I can understand if a guy wouldn't want to only for the safety issues. Then again, do punters worry about this? No idea...
Ok. Of course clients must have this in their mind too.
I think Tiger Lily has the right idea. It may be more expensive but this is the price you have to pay in order that both you and your client know that the contents havent been spiked.
It might sound quite outlandish but there are many unscrupulous girls out there that have been known to spike clients drinks and dip their pockets. There has been many stories over the years. There is also the chance girls spike the bottle and there is someone else in the flat who could do damage.
Do you get where I am coming from.
I wouldnt say it was rude to leave the open bottle lying around but it is rather thoughtless as girls are known not to drink out of an open bottle of wine either.
I would either buy the smaller bottles or stop the practice altogether.
It might be a good practice to remove the fee from the room you are working in too, then you wont be uncomfortable leaving a guy in the room alone.
My practice was always, dont leave anything lying around that you are not willing to lose. Same goes for outcalls, never carry anything you are not willing to lose. You could maybe take off a piece of jewellery that is precious to you and forget to pick it up on the way out - best to leave it at home.
We know we are honest but clients dont.
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I spend ?3 on a whole bottle of wine XD So it's nothing fancy that needs preserving. Think the small bottles cost the same. The wine box is a good idea, not like you can spike a wine box right, they come with a tap & in a bag that if you try and penitrate it'd burst so that'd put most at ease right?? It never crossed my mind really but then again having heard the scare stories some clients have i can imagine some are on gaurd, i know i wouldn't drink from an opened bottle but with that paranoia a girl could spike codial or water just the same & i've never received such comment. It was more of a you've been drinking on the job / had previous clients kind of tone i think.
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I don't actually offer wine because most of my bookings are in they day, have given the occasional client a beer... always have those in ;D
Anyway, any agencies I have worked for always keep wine in the fridge and I've never had a client concerned about the bottle being open already. Do you bring out the bottle? I would just fill their glass and stick it back in the fridge.
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If I have a bottle open I may say so and offer some (along with the usual water, squash, tea and coffee.) They are of course welcome to decline it for any reason. I figure it doesn't hurt to offer it and they don't have to accept it. I would think it a bit cheeky to make a remark about it already being opened if they were implying that I was cheap. I'm not a restaurant and I don't owe them any wine. I would probably say "well, I don't get drunk so a bottle can last me a little while" and not really give a shit what they think of that.
I have occasionally run across a pompous jerk who has made the odd condescending comment. (Recently I was asked if the books next to the bed were just for show or if I actually read them.) They're just twats and they have their preconceived ideas of who and what we are.
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(Recently I was asked if the books next to the bed were just for show or if I actually read them.) They're just twats and they have their preconceived ideas of who and what we are.
Someone actually said this out loud?! Thinking it is bad enough.
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I spend ?3 on a whole bottle of wine XD So it's nothing fancy that needs preserving. Think the small bottles cost the same. The wine box is a good idea, not like you can spike a wine box right, they come with a tap & in a bag that if you try and penitrate it'd burst so that'd put most at ease right?? It never crossed my mind really but then again having heard the scare stories some clients have i can imagine some are on gaurd, i know i wouldn't drink from an opened bottle but with that paranoia a girl could spike codial or water just the same & i've never received such comment. It was more of a you've been drinking on the job / had previous clients kind of tone i think.
Oh a box of wine CAN be spiked, not as easily but it can be done. ::).
I would never offer an unopened bottle of anything even water, it's not like they are that
expensive. Even clients like to hear the "crack" of the seal being broken, it puts them at ease.
Even with a cup of tea or coffee I've had clients follow me into the kitchen, yes it annoyed me, but I would do the exact same thing in a strangers home.
He obviously annoyed you and made you feel uncomfortable but you don't have to see him again.
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No it didn't annoy me, i can understand the stereotypes or dangers < depending on which way he meant it, the bookign went fine, i just thought perhaps i was doing it wrong
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I'd never give a client any drink apart from a glass of water, or tea/coffee.
Alcohol is a no no. I won't accept anyone who has been drinking either.
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It's just the one glass so it doesn't bug me, maybe if they were like forget you i want this entire bottle haha
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Lol, most guys who accept a drink from me take a sip, put it down, then forget about it until the end of the booking. The one's who really want a drink always will always bring their own bottle, anyway.
I don't think there's any 'wrong' way to give out free drinks. I'm just cautious :D
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I'd never give a client any drink apart from a glass of water, or tea/coffee.
Alcohol is a no no. I won't accept anyone who has been drinking either.
Yeah I don't offer alcohol either. I offer soft drinks but most just want water x
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I think it is nice of you to go to the trouble of buying wine for clients, and therefore being able to offer them a choice of an alcoholic or non-alcoholic drink :)
The guy that made the silly comment was probably joking in my opinion, in a sort of "got some catching up to do have I?" silly way. But it was rude of him to say that, as others have said he's welcome to either bring a fresh bottle or to just say no to the offer.
You said in your first post that you were worried that having an open bottle of wine around might make you look like a heavy drinker. Please don't worry about that because you are just being nice, and you're clearly not a lush so who cares anyway! But if it bothers you, what you could do is buy some wine bottle stoppers (I got 4 for 99p from my local Sainsbury's). They're just nice looking reuseable plastic plugs for opened wine bottles, with a little lever on the side that you pop down to keep the air in and the wine fresh. If you pop one of those in, and leave the bottle on the side with a clean wine glass next to it, it gives the impression that you have a glass of wine waiting for the client, as opposed to just having half empty booze bottles hanging round the house. If that's what you're worried about :)
Hadley xx
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I think it's simply that he thinks you're a drinker. I've often had a few in the past when I've worked and I don't have the bottle in sight (haha, that'll be the guilt because I was having a couple) so yes I think what you're doings fine, but get it off the bedside cabinet!
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No its not cheeky. Does he expect you to crack a new bottle just for him to have one glass?
If he is that bothered he could bring a bottle, most who do want a little drink with you have the manners to do this without even being asked let alone bitch because the bottle was already open. Was he worried you were going to drug him lol
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I offer a variety of fruit juice or water. Wine yes (but hey I love it!) but only for bookings after 6pm and only for 1hr+ bookings. Anyway my evening clients mostly bring me wine.
It's easy since the kitchen is actually on the way to the room, it's a big flat so I can ask them when I lead them in and they see me pour their drink.
I make sure the water bottle is new (safety issues) and same for the wine. But again those who want wine mostly bring it. Otherwise I always have a bottle and pour them a glass, nice fresh white and half glass for myself. Some will drink the entire glass some will just have a bit but with me being French they all appreciate it and it's one of the things they expect, along with my accent lol.
Yes wine must be opened in front of your host mostly unless it's red and you want to put it into "carafe" to breathe a bit but hey that would be a really good wine lol!
I think your client was probably joking. Now as to cash just leave the client for a second and go stash it somewhere else, easy to find a hiding place, I can pm a few ideas if you want?