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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #630 on: 20 February 2019, 01:17:18 pm »
I think as time goes on it will become more 'acceptable for women to use service providers although i doubt it would ever be on the same scale as men and it certainly wont be with guys who have cock shots in their gallery. Maybe if they realised women need more mental stimulation and marketed themselves apropriately they might be on to something x
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« Reply #631 on: 18 August 2020, 09:31:01 am »
It has been a hard 6 months for me and my BF. I lost 5 months of income and my BF was on short hours and has now been made redundant.
My income is now a lot lower due to reduced bookings. We have checked state benefit we can get and it is virtually nothing.

We have looked at the idea of him doing some escorting (we already offer a service as a couple - but this rarely gets a booking) and I'd be OK with him doing it (he accepts my job too). He is good looking, would appeal to a lot of women and would be good at the job (ie respectful and understanding to the client neeeds).

We looked on AW to see what the competition is in our area. There are quite a few guys offering services. BUT I'd say that 80% of the straight male service providers have no idea (no pictures or just porn style pics of dicks that won't work with women or just plain ugly and appear to be using the concept to get free sex). Most have no feedback and those that do seem to have feedback from female escorts - so we assume that the male paid. One of the feedbacks was actually written by me for a client who I thought was just a punter and who paid me - I had no idea at the time that they were supposed to be a male escort.

We have looked wider than our local area and have only found 2 with what could be considered genuine feedback from a paying female (even then, could be fake).

Is it that this area of personal service is done via different channels/web sites and not AW (which lets face it is really aimed at sex starved straight and gay men)? Agencies? Personal ad columns? Dating sites? Or is it a fact that straight women just don't pay men for sex?

Any advice or experience shared will be valued.
 
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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #632 on: 18 August 2020, 09:53:36 am »
I don’t think there is any women wanting to pay men for sex. Some men pay men for sex.

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« Reply #633 on: 18 August 2020, 11:54:01 am »
It has been a hard 6 months for me and my BF. I lost 5 months of income and my BF was on short hours and has now been made redundant.
My income is now a lot lower due to reduced bookings. We have checked state benefit we can get and it is virtually nothing.

We have looked at the idea of him doing some escorting (we already offer a service as a couple - but this rarely gets a booking) and I'd be OK with him doing it (he accepts my job too). He is good looking, would appeal to a lot of women and would be good at the job (ie respectful and understanding to the client neeeds).

We looked on AW to see what the competition is in our area. There are quite a few guys offering services. BUT I'd say that 80% of the straight male service providers have no idea (no pictures or just porn style pics of dicks that won't work with women or just plain ugly and appear to be using the concept to get free sex). Most have no feedback and those that do seem to have feedback from female escorts - so we assume that the male paid. One of the feedbacks was actually written by me for a client who I thought was just a punter and who paid me - I had no idea at the time that they were supposed to be a male escort.

We have looked wider than our local area and have only found 2 with what could be considered genuine feedback from a paying female (even then, could be fake).

Is it that this area of personal service is done via different channels/web sites and not AW (which lets face it is really aimed at sex starved straight and gay men)? Agencies? Personal ad columns? Dating sites? Or is it a fact that straight women just don't pay men for sex?

Any advice or experience shared will be valued.
 
Thanks

Sammy

I honestly think you'll only get work if you offer MMF, cuckold meets etc. I do think some straight women pay for both sex and literally being escorted to events, but it is rare.
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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #634 on: 18 August 2020, 12:32:46 pm »
Yes, women pay for sex, but because our brains are hardwired a bit different than mens we do it in a different way. I've met quite a few older ladies who had "younger male sugar handsome babies" who showered with gifts (sometimes money) in exchange of sex/companionship, couples that hired a guy for the wife were she was "more than happy" to engage in threesome etc... but a woman alone calling a stranger right of the bat from the internet to pay him in exchange for sex hmm.... very difficult. However... if your BF advertises on AW as a straight escort for couples he might have gotten some business in pre-covid times, not sure about now. He looses nothing by giving it a shot  ;)
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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #635 on: 17 November 2024, 05:14:29 pm »
I have been working as a Male Escort for Ladies,  and although I do get clients via Vivastreet and a few enquiries on AdultWork, I was wondering if there were any sites anyone could recommend that are mainly used  be “female clients”. Obviously it’s easy for a man to find a female escort, and there are plenty of sites purely showing ladies, but  the other way around, doesn’t seem to have the same focus??

Also I am an independent, are there any agencies which also advertise workers like myself??

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« Reply #636 on: 17 November 2024, 05:21:58 pm »
No we don't, because the lack of work means it wouldn't be worth anybody's time building one. Well done for not falling for any of the scam 'agencies' marketing crap though.

See this thread, and more recently this one.

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« Reply #637 on: 17 November 2024, 08:50:54 pm »
Congratulations on getting any bookings - the vast majority of straight male optimists never do.

If you want to have more, you need to do some thinking. The large majority of women do not pay for sex. But where would a woman thinking of doing so look? And what, out of what they might be looking for, can you offer?

See https://saafe.info/pages/straight-male.html too...
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« Reply #638 on: 18 November 2024, 12:05:52 pm »
Thanks for the threads, put in your reply to my question.

It was the “where would a woman look” piece of the puzzle I am missing, and was hoping the women on here might have some suggestions??

I have looked at [removed] for example, wondering if there were other forums frequented where sexual matters etc were discussed??
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« Reply #639 on: 18 November 2024, 01:11:21 pm »
The women here are sex workers who are handsomely paid by random men (like you) for having sex with us, not the other way round. Why would any of us pay you?

I've merged this with the main thread because we really don't need three virtually identical ones, all as pointless as each other. If you're saying you've actually had lone female clients already then the best thing to do is likely to be asking them?

Other forums are off topic on SAAFE, but it's unlikely any exist beyond the one you mentioned because as we've already said, the market is vanishingly small. If you can't find anything, then it's likely not there.

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« Reply #640 on: 18 November 2024, 04:03:22 pm »
It was the “where would a woman look” piece of the puzzle I am missing, and was hoping the women on here might have some suggestions??

They're not looking to pay men for sex.

Think about the "why" and then you might have a better idea of the "where".
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« Reply #641 on: 20 November 2024, 10:34:15 am »
I'm a woman in my 50s and a sex worker of 30 years (off and on but mostly on).

I do get fed up hearing it often said that women won't and don't pay for sex when I know they do.

Women have paid me.
Many of those women were bi and in a relationship with a man. Some were lonely lesbians.
Also, I have had many more enquiries that seem genuine but end when the women realize the cost. I have never done cheap services. Those women may have found a cheaper provider.

Also, I have paid one or two men, and I could imagine paying again in the future.

And I know men who've made part-time incomes from servicing women.

THE IMPORTANT BIT:
I don't think anyone could make a PERMANENT FULL TIME living by providing a service to women. But a good bit of extra cash - definitely.
There are many reasons that women are generally less likely to spend money in this way.

WHY WOMEN PAy
There are many women who are lonely or don't have someone meeting their needs.
There are many women who want to meet random people for sex with no strings.
Some women want to live out certain fantasies - even if it is just to be treated as if they are young and beautiful!


It is a mistake to think women can easily get a random guy. They might not want a random guy - they want a professional to come and live out their FANTASY for an hour or two, at a time that suits them.
That fantasy might be to treat them like a princess, give great oral, treat them like a... who knows....

Personally, I'd be completely put off by any man (or woman with a strap-on) who advertised how big and hard their dick was and how long they could fuck me. OUCH, I feel sore just thinking about it. And I would assume the man's main motivation was his own pleasure, whereas if I am paying him, he should be focused on my pleasure and the things I want to do (I want to ride his face!).


HOW to attract female customers:
1) Yes, have an AW profile for free. It doesn't hurt, and women do look there, especially if they have been swingers or sex workers.
2) Have your own website.

In your profile/website, tell the woman what you can do for her - but don't lie:
experienced dom with sexy leather dress-up gear,
or you are a qualified masseuse, and one thing can lead to another.
Or /You are a master at oral sex and like going down for hours.

IMHO A woman doesn't want to hear that you are a good conversationalist, with lots of jokes etc... honestly men dominate conversations all the fucking time in real life.... I wish they'd shut up! That might be a me thing!
Tell me you'd like to listen!


If marketing to women I would focus on the words in the profile and I'd write up some of the sexy scenarios that I might actually be able to deliver for the customer.

On your website a dick pic IS A GOOD IDEA but not compulsory - but one should be available! But it shouldn't be the main image.
There should be a few of you in clothes - looking nice. like a fashion model. Professional shots, not holiday snaps.
 Probably none of you naked - unless you have the body of a Greek God. Very few men look good naked (LOL), you will look better in clothes.

All of the women who have paid me never saw any photos of me beforehand. I have no images anywhere, and this has been true for most of my 30 years.

Finally : make her feel safe. Think about all the ways a woman might feel unsafe and how you can reassure her. Put as much of that as possible into words on your profile.
Feeling safe. Note that things can stop or change at any time she wants; she only has to say.
And explicitly say the service is for her pleasure and not yours.

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #642 on: 20 November 2024, 10:51:47 am »
Absolutely there are female clients. I have had them. At least one other occasional male poster here has had them.

Neither of us want to say how because there are not very many. The market is a series of small niches, and few workers in any one of them will get any clients.

On your website a dick pic IS A GOOD IDEA but not compulsory - but one should be available! But it shouldn't be the main image.

I am sure I have said before that life is much easier when most of your 'competition' has a dick pic as their main image ;D