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igraine

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how to offer more at beginning of booking
« on: 24 July 2014, 12:59:59 pm »
Hi
I have been doing erotic/fb massage for a few months now and I have slowly and surely established myself (albeit in a rather limited market place/forum).  Thing is this: I have turned down a few of the standard pushes for a fuller service but there are a couple of guys who I would be very happy doing more for.  If I like the guy and it gels I usually give them a lot more play than actual massage (my advertising profile makes it pretty clear I think that I'm not offering a Swedish or sports massage, although I do give a nice firm muscle rub as well as a lot of erotic touch).  I do things like lubricate my hand with my saliva whilst my face is very close to their cock but I haven't actually offered oral.  I will rub their cock against my breasts and let them come on me, so not just a massage and handjob.  However I would actually like to offer oral and maybe even reverse.......but, and this is the bit where I haven't quite got it together in my head, I don't know how to say that it is on offer.  I am scared maybe that my saying it will shift the balance of power, ie. they can say no thanks as they don't want to pay another whatever......20?  At the start my profile and my reviews (from sweet talkers who became regulars and probably think in time I will give them more without charging extra!) stated that my limits were clear and that I wasn't offering a full service.  I still don't want guys coming to me expecting a full service but I would really appreciate any suggestions about how to open it up a bit with selected clients without it sounding like a hard sell.  I think part of my problem is that my style is  such that they tend to feel quite special and I don't like to ruin it by talking money during the session or even really at the beginning.  A couple of guys I know want more but I wont offer and they wont ask, I think they think they'll get it naturally and organically for free as I get turned on during a booking one day soon!!!
any ideas??? Thanks so very much.

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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #1 on: 24 July 2014, 01:32:57 pm »
I am scared maybe that my saying it will shift the balance of power, ie. they can say no thanks as they don't want to pay another whatever......20?

Even if you were offering free oral, they could still turn it down. Certainly, if you do decide to offer it, they may decide not to pay more.

If they did say yes, how would you do it? Pause while they go through their wallet, thus risking breaking the flow, or hope and trust that they will actually pay you later? Neither sounds particularly good.

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I think part of my problem is that my style is  such that they tend to feel quite special and I don't like to ruin it by talking money during the session or even really at the beginning.  A couple of guys I know want more but I wont offer and they wont ask, I think they think they'll get it naturally and organically for free as I get turned on during a booking one day soon!!!

Or they're just respectful enough not to push something you - officially and in practice - don't currently offer.

If that is to change, you need to decide whether you're doing it with some men you're positively enjoying the time with or some men who are paying you extra but who you're also positively enjoying the time with. There's a difference.
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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #2 on: 24 July 2014, 01:59:26 pm »
Thanks for your reply xw5.  I would be offering it to men whom I enjoy spending time with AND who pay extra.  Yes, you are right there is the respect for my stated boundaries, that does also co exist I think a bit with the idea that as the chemistry and intimacy builds my boundaries will unbuild, and there is no error in them thinking that!  it may be that some may feel that way and not wish to pay more but only enjoy more if it comes for free and as part of my enjoyment in the natural course of events, and that some would pay more but don't like to ask out of respect.  I guess I will just have to try and see what happens..........or maybe by text when they rebook? 
Re. money talk - I wouldn't negotiate mid flow with any of these guys, as you say, bit of a passion killer!  I was thinking more of ways of saying more was on offer at the beginning whilst we are chatting and he is derobing etc.  one guy in particular I thought I could maybe say to something like "after last time I realised that you might like a little more.............." but then there is no escaping the money and the menu aspect after that nice start to the sentence!!!!

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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #3 on: 24 July 2014, 05:50:08 pm »
Obviously you cannot put on your ads that you offer more or everyone will expect it but perhaps at the start of the booking ask what they are looking for.  When you start to sort out the payment at the beginning of the meet you can say I also offer xxx for xxx amount of money if you are interested.  some may say yes and some may say no but it is better to let them know at the start.  No hard sell just when sorting out payment mention it.  Also make it clear they cant change their mind half way through (so they expect to pay extra at the end and then don't).
so perhaps something like, I also offer such and such for xx amount extra but only if sorted at the start of the booking and only to select clients so they know you don't offer it to everyone
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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #4 on: 24 July 2014, 06:09:02 pm »
I was thinking more of ways of saying more was on offer at the beginning whilst we are chatting and he is derobing etc.  one guy in particular I thought I could maybe say to something like "after last time I realised that you might like a little more.............." but then there is no escaping the money and the menu aspect after that nice start to the sentence!!!!

"...a little more... I don't normally offer this, but for you, I'll happily do x for ?y."

If there is a menu with prices, they need to know it at the start.
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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #5 on: 25 July 2014, 12:44:56 am »
You can put 2 options on your profile.
One for massage and another one for massage plus extras. And write on your profile what containes each and what is your fee for each.

I did that too, Im offering full personal massage and just massage plus few extras for the clients who dont want sex for example. None of them wanted something more than I advertise.
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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #6 on: 25 July 2014, 12:55:22 am »
Or you could say that after initial booking extra services may be offered.
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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #7 on: 26 July 2014, 12:23:06 am »
Really helpful suggestions thank you all.  I think it has to be a verbal add on rather than an option for a more elaborate service on my profile cos that way I only have to offer it if I like the look of them or have already met them and know I am happy to offer it.   that was always my main concern - to have the choice not to do stuff if a punter turns up and it feels bad.  Worst case scenario now I just give a massage with a handjob if I don't like the look/vibe of someone.  But this safety net has, as you can see, its own pitfalls!!
Thanks again folks.

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Re: how to offer more at beginning of booking
« Reply #8 on: 26 July 2014, 05:45:01 pm »
I don't mention doing extras on my profile but if a guy comes across as polite with good feedback and mentions about extras then I will tell them what I am willing to offer, if they don't sound sexy or respectful I just keep quiet and do the basic service xx