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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: KimberlyC on 10 February 2014, 12:50:57 pm
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I've got somebody who called and then texted to say that I sounded lovely on the phone and looked gorgeous in my pics but they just can't swing my 1/2 hour price. I said "That's OK! :)"
He texted back "Try to catch you another time."
I texted " :)"
He replied, "shame..."
I didn't reply. A half hour goes by, then "Could you do it for less?"
I haven't replied.
Now the thing is, maybe I *would* entertain the idea of doing it for slightly less but doesn't that open up a can of worms? Anyway, it's likely that he doesn't mean slightly less but much less.
But am I being too hard-headed? Screwing myself out of some income out of silly pride? Or am I avoiding headache and irritation from someone who has already demonstrated that he may be a boundary pusher?
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But am I being too hard-headed? Screwing myself out of some income out of silly pride? Or am I avoiding headache and irritation from someone who has already demonstrated that he may be a boundary pusher?
It is hard to choose, I recently did a 15 min quickie with a guy for ?30, but told him it was a one off. It had been a slow day, I was doing nothing so thought why not, he turned out to be a bit of a pain.
The guy above did come out with it and so I did not really have to haggle, if you choose to do it I would tell him you will do it for X amount this time but in future would expect him to pay the full amount.
Dont get into haggling with him, if he is not happy with what you offer then tell him you will see him when he has saved up the full amount and that this is one time only offer not to be repeated.
Sarah x x x
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I've got somebody who called and then texted to say that I sounded lovely on the phone and looked gorgeous in my pics but they just can't swing my 1/2 hour price. I said "That's OK! :)"
He texted back "Try to catch you another time."
I texted " :)"
He replied, "shame..."
I didn't reply. A half hour goes by, then "Could you do it for less?"
I haven't replied.
Now the thing is, maybe I *would* entertain the idea of doing it for slightly less but doesn't that open up a can of worms? Anyway, it's likely that he doesn't mean slightly less but much less.
But am I being too hard-headed? Screwing myself out of some income out of silly pride? Or am I avoiding headache and irritation from someone who has already demonstrated that he may be a boundary pusher?
Haggerlers be difficult as have caused awkwardness upon thier arrival. Now haggerlers are a no way.
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I agree with Sarah, it's not a market stall, but a one off might not hurt, if he's decent enough to accept the offer straight away and not try to get your free down even more because he thinks you're up for it.
Xx
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I will haggle my longer bookings anything 3 hours or more I'm happy to move on the price but when it's an hour or and 30 min booking I think that someone else will probably come along and pay full price. Which they usually do.
I mean hey, not everyone can afford to see us girls and its worth a try on their part but there is always someone around who is cheaper. I just hate it when you tell them that there is no movement on your fees and they continue to pester you.
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Sometimes when it's quiet I feel like something is better than nothing... But haggling is one thing that really winds me up, I've never accepted and don't think I ever will just on principle. It feels unfair on the nice clients who accept my prices for someone to get an instant discount just by asking. Plus the ones who ask usually come across as complete idiots looking for nothing more than a cheap fuck and I think if I did I would feel quite resentful towards them for being a cheapskate and it really wouldn't make a pleasant experience. Also I wouldn't expect them to come back if I told them they had to pay full price next time, I'd expect them to move onto the next girl willing to accept a discount.
Although I do feel like I'm shooting myself in the foot sometimes, if I'm not going to earn anything anyway then I'm losing out on money, but I just don't think I can do it on principle, it feels like silly pride but I'd feel too resentful, used and selling myself short. I guess a compromise might be to offer them a shorter service, or withdraw a service (such as owo) to match the price, but I wouldn't see someone new for a full service for full time at a discount. I think they should get what they pay for.
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I don't accept haggling - all my ads clearly state that my fees are non-negotiable and as well as what Amethyst says above, this tells me that they haven't read my ads so are likely to be a pain in the arse anyway. If somebody tells me he's 'only' got ?100 pesters me for an hours booking (for example) then I can always remind them that my 45 minute rate is exactly that; given that not many take it I can only see that the attraction is nothing to do with actual sums of money and everything to do with thinking they've put one over on me or getting a 'deal', and I don't want to see people like that.
As above, there are plenty of nice, respectful punters out there who don't feel any need to demean themselves in this way, and just as with any other job I've ever had, I won't work for under my proper pay because somebody else who will benefit from my doing so thinks I should.
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Like HHJJ said I may compromise on longer bookings, such as overnights as these can be variable.
Otherwise, like Amy suggested for some it may be a power kick from getting a deal out of you.
I think I refuse to haggle for the same reason I ignore the guy who keeps texting me with 'hey bbe how much for a quick suck', anyone whose initial contact is arrogant and offensive and who is going to make me feel like a cheap collection of holes is someone I'd prefer to not see.
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I just wouldn't do it . I let someone off with a fiver before -o..m.g . What a pain he turned out to be kept messaging me for freebies . Just ended up blocking him xx
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I just can't bring myself to agree to giving my services for less.I think my rates are reasonable enough and when guys ring me and haggle its like they think I'm a rug on a market stall and not a human being.
Any discounts or extra time I give is offered not asked for and is for regular clients that have shown they are reliable and treat me with respect.The guys that haggle seem to want as much as they can get for as little as possible and I would rather not see them.I have tried the offering less time or less services thing when new and these guys will keep pushing it...it never does seem to be 'just this once' so its a no in the first instance.
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I had some twat text asking if 100 was the best I could do for 30mins and I responded with no actually, I could do 30mins for 200 he told me to fuck off lol
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If the haggerlers cannot afford the game then simples they shouldn't play. I so want to say this but hold back.
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No I never entertain hagglers, if they don't like my rates then they should book someone else. To me is shows nothing but sheer disrespect towards me and what I offer. There are thousands and thousands of other escorts they can choose from.
If they don't want to pay 100% of someones advertised rates then how can they expect a service of 100%??
The only time I will drop my rates is if its on my own terms like if I see a nice sounding reverse booking that's close to my rates & I will offer some sort of discounted rates at Christmas.
xx
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I would never entertain a haggler. Imagine what an arse they'd be when they show up! Plus all it takes is one to mention somewhere that you will agree to less then you'll have more calling up and trying it on. Plus I'd hate for one of my fabulous regulars to hear that I'd seen a moron for less than them. I couldn't possibly offer the same kind of service to someone who'd paid less, and why should I?! I'd almost feel like they should be getting a limited service that reflects their lesser fee.
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Any guy who is on a tight budget and decent will either book someone within his budget OR put a reverse booking up to see what comes in but a general haggler is so offensive to me like he thinks I am not worth what I advertise as, I am not a car at the end of the day so I just think its really rude and disrespectful.
It all boils down to the fact that if they don't like what they see on our profiles whether that's pictures, rates or services then they should keep looking till they find someone who ticks all the boxes to their personal tastes.
I know some escorts (many on here) would rather have some money than no money at all and that's their prerogative but I honestly wouldn't want to be alone with that sort of client (a complete stranger) who has basically told me I am not worth what I ask, means he hasn't accepted the information on my profile so whats next?? Is he gonna ask/expect to push my boundaries too? Nope, it just doesn't sit well with me so I would never entertain it.
xx
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Frequently Asked Questions...
Q. Fee negotiation?
A. Sure. Every time you ask for a discount, ...my fee goes up by ?50.
If they ask again, I add said ?50 to the fee. And stick to it.
If they repeat the question I politely terminate the call and BLOCK.
I've never had anyone book after the fee goes up.
On the plus side, it often moves the conversation off discounts
and onto arranging a meet at my set rates.
Before I did this I used to offer a ?1 off my fee.
Which usually got a laugh then the enquiry back on track.
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Offer slightly less time. I don't make a habit of it but if I'm working any way and have slots free, or need the money I would offer 20 mins for 50, when the smallest I advertise is 70 for half an hour..but only if I like the sound of them and I think it would only be a one off booking anyway. With habitual hagglers, if I need the work, I'll tell them my rate is higher and let them haggle me down to my actual rate.
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If the haggerlers cannot afford the game then simples they shouldn't play. I so want to say this but hold back.
OMG!!! Yes ;D
I hate hagglers but often times, especially if slow, I may negotiate with one but to avoid confusion I will ask them what they would pay and go from there. I mainly get short stays so I would NEVER go lower than forty.
And to the girl that said people msg them for 'quick sucks' I wouldnt entertain that AT ALL as they may be the police. Every client knows you dont talk services over the phone as it will affect both of our freedom
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Prostitution is not illegal so why would the police text you asking for services?Thats not how they operate.
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Ah ok I see from another thread you are American.Over in the U.K that isn't what the police would do.
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Prostitution is not illegal so why would the police text you asking for services?Thats not how they operate.
What makes prostitution illegal in the ukraine
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I have no idea about the laws regarding prostitution in the Ukraine.I am British and work in the U.K (United Kingdom).
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Hagglers?
grrrrrr
Okay, had a guy wanted a super quick quickie, I said 50?ill only take a few minutes liteally, okay 45?deal was done.
He was late, I'm only going to have time for 10 minutes now, can you do it for 30 ?ffs okay
Phone call, hi can you do it for 20 quid.
ME..well as i can see you sitting in your car on the phone you are only wasting your own time so you can either drive away with a hard on and find some muppet who will see you for the price of a couple of packets of fags or you can come upstairs for what time you have left for 45..or deal is off
him..aww, okay
He arrived, was in and out within 3 minutes?i got the 45. Turned out he was on the way to buy a new sofa and was taking it out of his sofa money?dear god
Then some other poor guy caught me in the wrong moment at home, tripped over my chair getting to him, stubbed toe and hit knee on other chair then answered phone to "do you do discounts" "NOOOOO" "oh but i want two hours" "HAVE LESS TIME THEN" "i can give you 250 instead of 260" "noooooo would you haggle for your shopping or your shoes or your car or with your mortgage broker every month" ?..talk about cutting off my own nose?jeezus christ?he was only asking for a tenner off, just at the wrong time of the morning.
I really need to learn to not get huffy puffy
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Like HHJJ I have had a play with fees for three hours plus when incall or a very local outcall, but only when I know them and that they will not be boundary pushers. Hagglers normally get ignored, I can't be bothered to get stressed by them.
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He arrived, was in and out within 3 minutes?i got the 45.
That's, a quickie!!!
I could do them all day long. If only there were more like that.
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No I never entertain hagglers, if they don't like my rates then they should book someone else. To me is shows nothing but sheer disrespect towards me and what I offer. There are thousands and thousands of other escorts they can choose from.
If they don't want to pay 100% of someones advertised rates then how can they expect a service of 100%??
The only time I will drop my rates is if its on my own terms like if I see a nice sounding reverse booking that's close to my rates & I will offer some sort of discounted rates at Christmas.
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I get many bods on AW saying will I do cheaper or offering me a silly price
MY REPLY:-
"So you just want chat do you"
HIS NORMAL REPLY:-
"No I want what you offer on your profile"
MY REPLY:-
"OK, well see my prices on my profile"
BOOM BOOM --- They don't reply, I wonder why
xx
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Through the door,
Unzipped trousers
Willy was clean so quick baby wipe
2 sucks and he jizzed in my mouth
Rewiped cock
Zipped up trousers
Headed for the door to get to DHS before it closed.
hahaha ;D ;D
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I've been known to offer SMALL discounts in the past if a guy seems genuine, and has made a booking of a reasonable length. If they're a nice bloke I don't mind too much. However the ones I hate are the kind who say stuff like: "but you seemed to be enjoying it so much last time... do I get a discount this time??!". These guys are always arrogant shits and a massive pain in the arse, who assume you're into sleeping with them for the fun of it now. I've even had one ask me for a freebie.
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I've been known to offer SMALL discounts in the past if a guy seems genuine, and has made a booking of a reasonable length. If they're a nice bloke I don't mind too much. However the ones I hate are the kind who say stuff like: "but you seemed to be enjoying it so much last time... do I get a discount this time??!". These guys are always arrogant shits and a massive pain in the arse, who assume you're into sleeping with them for the fun of it now. I've even had one ask me for a freebie.
Oh yeah they do my head in.I once had a guy for 30 mins, he was horrible, following me into the kitchen and fondling me when I was making him the drink he asked for, pinching and being rough and sticking his arse in my face when we were in the bedroom as he wanted to be rimmed and then trying to go over time by saying he would massage me.
2 days later he texted asking for an overnighter but for free as I would enjoy the break in his travel lodge in Sheffield...plank!
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the thing is the ones who haggle usually turn out to be bloody awkward clients.
Theyre already starting off by showing a lack of respect that normal clients would be ashamed to display, my experience is if you entertain them it generally continues to go down hill even more until you're kicking yourself for getting involved with such an idiot
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I agree.I also found on the odd occaision back when I first started if you give a discount once quite often they expect it everytime or in some cases they will try and get even more money off.Its like in their eyes they see you as a soft touch.
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the thing is the ones who haggle usually turn out to be bloody awkward clients.
Theyre already starting off by showing a lack of respect that normal clients would be ashamed to display, my experience is if you entertain them it generally continues to go down hill even more until you're kicking yourself for getting involved with such an idiot
Yep, totally agree with this x
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the thing is the ones who haggle usually turn out to be bloody awkward clients.
Theyre already starting off by showing a lack of respect that normal clients would be ashamed to display, my experience is if you entertain them it generally continues to go down hill even more until you're kicking yourself for getting involved with such an idiot
Yep, totally agree with this x
+1 more....
Sarah x x x
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Had an outcall the other day, got there and he was ?5 short! Wasn't sure what to do as had taken a taxi but he wasn't too far away. He tried to convince me by saying I could leave 10 min early. That's when I decided to walk as I explained it doesn't work like that as he booked an hour. Then oh look he found the money after all ::) he's been put on the block list now anyway, if they do it once they will do it again.
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I had that before where the guy booked for an hour and produced a load of crumpled notes. He was ?20 short I gave him back a tenner and said I will stay for 30 mins (not too far from where I live and I had a client that wanted to see me straight after so not too bad) I did however stop at exactly 30 mins and the poor bugger hadn't cum because he was very stoned. He suffered really because of it.
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I had that before where the guy booked for an hour and produced a load of crumpled notes. He was ?20 short I gave him back a tenner and said I will stay for 30 mins (not too far from where I live and I had a client that wanted to see me straight after so not too bad) I did however stop at exactly 30 mins and the poor bugger hadn't cum because he was very stoned. He suffered really because of it.
Leaving is not something I would do at that point, but as you did and he paid up it worked, I would be thinking that I would be out of pocket by two taxi fares not just ?5. But then where would you draw the line? An under payment of 20 30 or even 40?
I have had clients that have wanted an hour in-call and only had 100, so I take the money and gave them 45 minutes.
The guy I gave a 15 min quickie for 30 turned out to be a pain and has rang back, i told him that the 30 was a special offer as I had told him on the day and that he would have to pay 50, he did not book. He could have had the offer on my web site for 40 but I am really not fussed about seeing him again, if I do then I want to make it worthwhile.
Sarah x x x
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to be fair I thought "well Ill just work 30 mins then" as I earn more money per minute in a 30 minute booking it doesnt bother me. However if he didnt have the money for 30 minutes I woulda walked Im not desperate for money lol
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No, It really shocks me that anyone would even ask for a dicsount. I find it ridiculously rude. I don't care if my rent is due in ... 3 hours i will never reward their rudeness. Unless i have specifically put down the price myself (which only really happens once in a blue moon if i want a customer within the hour so i can have some spending money to go out with friends) < because it would be the difference bewtween staying in bored or going out & having a good time. I shamefully put my 15 minute down so low but i didn't end up regretting it as i had some cash to have fun. But i guess that just goes to show... if your happy to and the (of course the client is happy too) then why not really
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Depends on what they are haggling for.
If somebody just texts me saying can you do (insert service here) for 20 quid. I would definitely ignore them. Timewaster alert!
If it someone I have seen before and I have availability then I would consider it, if it just knocking a tenner of my rate
It tends to be, if I think its a guaranteed booking from someone I know, I wouldn't treat it as rude, as I know guys spend a lot of money.
However, I would much rather they didn't try and haggle! But I guess that's not unusual :)