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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #105 on: 25 January 2017, 12:12:36 am »
It would actually make sense as I've been thinking about going to a LTD company structure for VAT purposes.

Companies cannot have an unlawful purpose, and so - even though it's not illegal - prostitution is not an acceptable thing for a UK company to be involved in. If/when it's noticed, it will be taken away from you.

Point anyone suggesting otherwise at R v Registrar of Companies, ex parte Attorney-General [1991] BCLC 476.
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« Reply #106 on: 25 January 2017, 01:35:47 am »
Companies cannot have an unlawful purpose, and so - even though it's not illegal - prostitution is not an acceptable thing for a UK company to be involved in. If/when it's noticed, it will be taken away from you.

Point anyone suggesting otherwise at R v Registrar of Companies, ex parte Attorney-General [1991] BCLC 476.

That's a really good point as I think a lot of people are totally unaware of that. I recently re-read the Miss Whiplash book and the thought did come to my mind (but I noticed that a lot of ladies on here have other businesses and forms of self-employment so even though we were talking about bank deposits, I wondered if VC might possibly have been talking in general due to the mention of VAT structures).
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« Reply #107 on: 25 January 2017, 08:04:57 am »
That's a really good point as I think a lot of people are totally unaware of that. I recently re-read the Miss Whiplash book and the thought did come to my mind (but I noticed that a lot of ladies on here have other businesses and forms of self-employment so even though we were talking about bank deposits, I wondered if VC might possibly have been talking in general due to the mention of VAT structures).

Yes I do, I don't have a company, nor a business account. I suppose it's a risk, however for various reasons if clients wanted to find out who I am, there are easier ways than finding a bank branch and hoping they'll confirm the name on the account. I'd prefer not to be outed publicly, I am however prepared for all eventualities and as I say if I took measures to hide it would be a waste of effort, time and result in serious life restriction with the risk still there.

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« Reply #108 on: 25 January 2017, 08:18:32 am »
Wow, thanks for that Ian. Just been reading up on that case over at taxrelief4escorts. Pretty shocking stuff, although I note the defendant didn't exactly keep a low profile, and the fact she failed to pay tax for years on end probably influenced the decision.

I guess if/when my earnings hit the threshold for VAT I'll just have to register for VAT as a sole trader.
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« Reply #109 on: 25 January 2017, 10:28:20 am »
Bloody hell, that's fucking shocking. Although assumedly that would only happen if you and he happened to have the same bank? And he was being a luddite and went into branch rather than doing it online. I suppose if he wanted to do it cash, he would have to.

Just to clarify, I specifically asked my customer about this yesterday morning and he said it has definitely happened (as that was how he found out my surname) but he can't recall it happening at any time in the last say 5+ years (I've known him 15+ years).

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« Reply #110 on: 25 January 2017, 10:46:32 am »
Just to clarify, I specifically asked my customer about this yesterday morning and he said it has definitely happened (as that was how he found out my surname) but he can't recall it happening at any time in the last say 5+ years (I've known him 15+ years).

At the moment banks seem to focus on preventing scam transfers, that's my recent experience and that of my clients.

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« Reply #111 on: 25 January 2017, 11:25:54 am »
At the moment banks seem to focus on preventing scam transfers, that's my recent experience and that of my clients.

Yes I would definitely agree with that. I also suspect that if you're a bank you probably have to deal with a lot of faffing about recalling payments that have been made in error into the wrong accounts so maybe that's why in the past (at least with my customer) they confirmed details of an account when they shouldn't have.

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« Reply #112 on: 25 January 2017, 02:32:12 pm »
Yes I would definitely agree with that. I also suspect that if you're a bank you probably have to deal with a lot of faffing about recalling payments that have been made in error into the wrong accounts so maybe that's why in the past (at least with my customer) they confirmed details of an account when they shouldn't have.

When they've gone in and been confident, it's been fine not to know the account name, and I specifically asked if it is OK to pay in without the name when I set it up.

Only issue has been when a payer has been very nervous, and legged it out when they were asked did they have the account name, that they've not been able to pay in.

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« Reply #113 on: 13 February 2017, 05:47:42 pm »
I had a client the other week, who had no cash after his massage, and offered Pingit (supposedly he did not have PayPal (which I have not had problems with yet)). He sent the funds, and I received an immediate text saying the amount had been sent to me, and that I have 7 days to download the app and claim the funds..... The client then left.... I went ahead to download the app, but it took a while. 12 minutes later I received a text telling me "something went wrong, please contact the payee.' It appears that as long as I did not have the app yet registered to my mobile number, and or the payment is pending - there is a very easy option to simply 'cancel' a pending payment!!!! Pingit have as of yet been unhelpful ,the Barclays Pingit team simply claimed that any pending bank transaction can be reversed easily, supposedly I should have know that?! ---- I would not recommend Pingit! Not sure if the payment would have been irreversable under different circumstance (like me being a registered user already), but if you do decide to use it, I'd recommend finding out beforehand.

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« Reply #114 on: 13 February 2017, 07:55:43 pm »
Yeah I had a feeling that might be the case. If taking payment via any app or method I would always make sure the funds are in your account before going ahead with the booking.

I won't take Paypal payments. They don't allow adult services. I know a lot of people do it and fly under the radar but I have a business account with them that I use for other civvy stuff so I can't afford to lose it.

I take payment via Amazon gift voucher which seems to work well for a lot of customers. I buy so much stuff via Amazon that it's like having cash. And customers can pick up gift cards in most supermarkets and just bring them with.
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« Reply #115 on: 13 February 2017, 09:33:53 pm »
The money has to be in my account before it's considered paid, which is why I stick to two methods and those methods only.


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« Reply #116 on: 14 February 2017, 01:27:47 pm »
I had a client the other week, who had no cash after his massage, and offered Pingit (supposedly he did not have PayPal (which I have not had problems with yet)). He sent the funds, and I received an immediate text saying the amount had been sent to me, and that I have 7 days to download the app and claim the funds..... The client then left.... I went ahead to download the app, but it took a while. 12 minutes later I received a text telling me "something went wrong, please contact the payee.' It appears that as long as I did not have the app yet registered to my mobile number, and or the payment is pending - there is a very easy option to simply 'cancel' a pending payment!!!! Pingit have as of yet been unhelpful ,the Barclays Pingit team simply claimed that any pending bank transaction can be reversed easily, supposedly I should have know that?! ---- I would not recommend Pingit! Not sure if the payment would have been irreversable under different circumstance (like me being a registered user already), but if you do decide to use it, I'd recommend finding out beforehand.

Yes, I was once conned in a similar way.  It happened when I first started escorting.  When I contacted the customer about not receiving the money, as you might expect, he responded with sheer abuse.  Like many if not most other ladies, I now only ever accept payment in cash.

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« Reply #117 on: 14 February 2017, 03:27:28 pm »

I take payment via Amazon gift voucher which seems to work well for a lot of customers. I buy so much stuff via Amazon that it's like having cash. And customers can pick up gift cards in most supermarkets and just bring them with.

Interesting thread, never thought of using PayPal, can you not say the service is a consultation or others coach or therapy session?

Gift cards, how can you tell there is money on them, was offered a MS gift card recently?

Phone credits, recently suggested on this forum, can you spend phone credits on things like clothes and stuff.

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« Reply #118 on: 14 February 2017, 03:41:47 pm »
With Amazon cards, you can check the balance on Amazon by typing in the gift card code. I am not sure if you can do it with other cards.

The problem is with Paypal is that they accept chargeback requests up to 90 days after the transaction. So all that needs to happen is:
Punter requests his money back
You dispute his claim
Punter escalates claim to Paypal and says it was for sexual services
Paypal shut you down :(

Ebay own Paypal and they have the same outlook of always siding with the buyer.
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« Reply #119 on: 17 February 2017, 05:53:16 pm »
DDD, I cant comment on other GCs but Amazon is truly the best way forward (if you are registered with Amazon.co.uk) and want other options outside of cash. They can either send you a virtual gift card (directly to your email add), or instruct them to send it to themselves, then copy/paste the claim code to you. When you have the claim code, log into your Amazon account, then go Your Account > Apply A Gift Card To Your Account. Once a GC has been redeemed there is no way they can get it back and he cant access any of your personal info ie name.

On the odd occasion (very very rarely happens though), it can take hours to get the gift card so thats why the latter is a good option too. If he sends it to his own email address and there is any delay in getting the GC, the delay is on his end not yours, then he can chase it up with Amazon.
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