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brooklyn__ce

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So I had my first client last night. I was very nervous, and he turned out to be an extremely attractive, young, single man with lots of experience using escort services which didn't exactly help to calm my nerves much despite me being turned on by him.

I entered into the situation doing and saying the things I've been told to in this forum/by my agency owner but tried not to seem too tacky. We had a friendly but not terribly interesting conversation and then pretty quickly got down to business. He appeared to really be enjoying all of the sexual stuff and so was I, I tried to communicate openly with him the whole time and what not.

So all of that was good and normal and nice. But here's the kind of discouraging part. I was under the impression that he would be paying compliments to me and what not, based on other peoples experiences and advice. However he made no comments on my appearance or skills whatsoever, and I consider myself to be an attractive girl so that wasn't a great thing to experience. However I understand all clients are different and maybe he's just not the type to compliment escorts so I tried keeping that in mind. At the end of the booking we were laying in bed talking and he said "so, do you have any questions for me??" and I was like "I don't know, is there something I should be asking :p" and he said "well, usually escorts ask how they did." so I said okay, "how did I do then?"

He says, "to be honest you initial entry seemed really scripted and unnatural. I could tell you were nervous. Try to just be yourself." I thanked him for the constructive criticism and explained that yes, I was nervous and it was difficult to be natural since it was my first time. I asked if it got better as the booking went on and he said "yeah, I mean the sex was good and all."

So we parted ways and I got into the car feeling kind of like....ouch. You know? He wasn't particularly rude or anything, I guess I just really really wasn't expecting my first booking to be so...critical? I was hoping the client would be a bit more reassuring and kind towards me though I realize now that might have been a bit of an unrealistic expectation. Overall I feel a bit burned and intimidated by him. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he gave me that criticism because it will be helpful for next time, it's just that he didn't say one positive thing about me and it kind of blows.

It's probably worth mentioning that he knew it was my first time and my agency owner let him see me for free to try me out (the agency paid me) so perhaps he felt that was the best way to introduce a newbie, with a bit of tough love.

Overall I don't feel horribly disrespected or awful, just a bit discouraged and like "you suck, Brooklyn".

Any stories, similar experiences, advice or criticism is welcomed. Basically I just want to know if this is the type of dynamic I should be expecting or if most clients are a bit more reassuring and sweet. Ive been told that an escorts first client experience is supposed to make her feel at ease, but that's not how I feel right now and I don't know if I'm just being oversensitive or if this would be a bummer situation for you folks too.

Thanks!!

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I can say one thing for sure, I have never asked a client how I did. I dunno maybe I'm a freak and I'm not saying you shouldn't or anything but I don't think clients expect to be giving you feedback during the appointment, seems like it'd be awkward (same way I feel if a client asks me if I'll see him again - if I won't I don't really want to say that to his face while he's on paid time!). So when he said most escorts ask... I would guess he was lying.

Some guys really like seeing new escorts because it makes them feel powerful. I think probably all of us have run into a few losers who are probably powerless in their marriages, in their jobs, etc and get their kicks out of making escorts feel crappy. There's all kinds of them - the kinds that show up and say they don't fancy you and walk out, the kinds that email/phone just to tell you you're not their type or whatever, and the kinds that criticise and pick at your work.

Hey, maybe I'm being too harsh and maybe he just wanted to give you some advice. And there's definitely no harm in working on seeming more natural but that is all tied up with how confident you are in your work and will definitely come with time. My appointments are quite scripted if I'm honest and no one seems to notice, it'll be a lot more about your manner than what you're saying. If you're new I'm sure there's lots of stuff you'll want to work on to improve and you don't need to feel down about anything you're not 100% at yet, no one comes into any business knowing how to do everything perfectly straight away.

In my opinion best way to deal with critical clients is if their criticism seems fair, even if it's harsh, decide if it's something you want to work on and then decide what you're going to do to improve. If it seems unfair or needlessly picky then brush it off and keep doing what you're doing, the fact that you're comfortable becoming an escort proves that you know you're sexy and awesome and you don't need validation off anyone :) Whatever type of escort you end up being there will be clients who like you the way you are - I have what some clients have described as a bad attitude and others have called refreshingly honest - you click with some and not with others, and the ones that get you will be the ones that come back and keep you busy :)
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If he knew it was your first time then that was a little mean. I cant say I've had any guys ever say at the end "so any questions for me - like how you did". Sounds like he's young "good looking" and knows it with an attitude to match.

Relax and trust me you'll get used to the fact some guys say very little full stop. The nerves will hopefully go in time, try to take more control as some guys will be equally nervous and need you to be confident for them lol

I'm so sorry you got him as your first he sounds like the sort of guy who would also want a break down of his own performance but wait he already knows he's good!  ::)


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He sounds a lot nicer than a lot I've had that's for sure. Never had anyone ask me if I want to ask questions after. Some comment on how good it was...some don't...it has never bothered me when they didn't, I've never really thought about it to be honest. Though it is nice to be complimented. I think for your first time you were very lucky. Hope you continue you have nice young good looking guys that turn you on!

Coty xxx

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Sounds like  as he was told it was your first time, he set it as a sort of exam and thought you wanted some feedback, mentally marking you like a driving examiner

Really do not worry about it, you will get all sorts, some won't  say a word, some will chat the whole time, some will say that was great, some will just get up and leave,  some will be fit some will be fat  :o
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No, not all clients compliment you. Many do, which is nice if you could do with a confidence boost, but some people just aren't into compliments. (I'm very bad at giving them and I could really do with dropping a few since I'm meant to make them feel good.)

Asking for feedback isn't normal. Maybe he meant in that kind of situation, since I'd guess it wasn't the first time he was assigned to be someone's first client. Maybe he meant well, maybe he didn't, but I bet he was very impressed with himself for being the test driver. It won't be long before you meet a nice older man who doesn't think so much of himself.

I just want to check; the agency actually paid you right, they didn't just say they'd pay you? You should never work for the promise of cash.

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It's probably worth mentioning that he knew it was my first time and my agency owner let him see me for free to try me out (the agency paid me) so perhaps he felt that was the best way to introduce a newbie, with a bit of tough love.

Um. WTF? Who is this guy that the agency owner is buying him sexual services?! He must have some sort of special arrangement/relationship with them, and that is definitely NOT the normal thing to happen. Have the agency definitely paid you? And did they tell you that you might expect him to be a bit of an a***hole due to his sense of entitlement?

On the other hand, as Anika said, this job can be a great self-esteem boost sometimes as we can be very complimented by some of the lovely gentlemen we see, but you really do need to not allow your self-esteem to be tied to your work - this might be good practice for that, although I'm sorry it's such an icky process emotionally. :-\ Because even when we get compliments, they don't necessarily mean anything (see: "You should charge more! I would pay double or triple for an hour with a goddess like yourself! Please, marry me!" etc etc - none of this should be heeded without a good long think about the reality of things and YOUR personal preferences, outside of the heat of the moment) and the same goes with the kind of "constructive criticism" that you received from Mr Wonderpants or whoever he is.

And in all fairness, even if Mr Wonderpants likes xyz and he hates abc, Mr Politegentleman might have the opposite preferences so keep an open mind and don't dwell on negative details. And who is silly enough to think a newbie isn't going to be slightly awkward/uncomfortable at first?! I don't think any of the newbie-hunters who booked me when I was new minded that I had no clue what I was doing! They just wanted a naive young thing so that they could get away with being a bit annoying (or a lot worse, occasionally), on the whole. Which is what it is, but it would be nice if agencies would give you a bit of information on the clients that they know they're sending you to, just so you could be prepared.

Pfft. "Usually escorts ask how they did". LOL! What he meant was, "Now it's time for you to grovel at my feet because I only feel like a big man if the sex worker I'm paying [or not!] is clearly insecure about her performance." He's a very typical example of a Client With Issues. I say, let it all go: ignore everything he said and everything that happened. You're allowed to be new for more than one booking so experience the next few with an open mind and as much confidence that you can muster after that stupid git - don't let him ruin your work or your encounters with other clients, 99% of whom will be FAR more pleasant than him.

Sorry. It's not that constructive criticism isn't helpful - definitely pay attention to your clients' needs and desires and stay openly communicative during appts, like you were doing. But if someone responds by purposefully making you feel small? Then he's a total cretin. "Yeah, I mean, the sex was good and all"? That's not helpful, that's just him trying to make you feel bad.

I'd rather have a fat old jolly client who knows how he likes to enjoy himself, gives me plenty of clues about what to do for him and just has a great time with lots of smiles and laughs and general positivity than some young-ish guy who thinks he's better than me (and thinks he needs to prove it by insulting me) ANY day of the week! Looks =/= manners.

And trust me, like Krystal said, I think most of us have a bit of a script for the initial part of a booking - you don't want to just be standing there staring awkwardly at each other while you say, "Er, money now, please, I think?" and he says, "Um, erm, ah, yup?" I think it's much better to have a general plan for meeting someone new and settling yourselves both down comfortably (or rushing yourselves into the shower & bedroom if it's a quickie ;)) so that you can A) get the business (?) out of the way without awkwardness and B) help him to feel calm and relaxed because you know what you're doing. Many guys will look to you for guidance and as long as the sex stuff isn't scripted (i.e. you wouldn't want to go ahead and do massage-oral-cowgirl without checking his cues as to whether or not that's what he wants) I really don't see a problem.

Are you going to ask your agency why they paid for some idiot to see you without any warning as to what to expect from his ridiculous attitude? Perhaps ask them if you can expect more of the same from your next clients. And maybe ask them where they're finding their clients, since I haven't met anyone unpleasant since I manned-up my screening processes and allowed it to fully sink in that my job does NOT entail seeing anyone who feels like calling me. Only the ones who feel like calling me and being polite and respectful at all times. :D ...Perhaps double-check with your agency precisely what their screening processes are, if they indeed have any and aren't just a front for supplying naive newbies to horrible creeps?

(Ahem. Rant over now. I promise.)
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Well, I'm new to this as well, and I'm sure the other girls have given much better advice than I could but I can't help but also think WTF?

I can't tell you what, if anything, you should do about it, but I would say- don't take it to heart. In the few weeks I've been doing this job I have read a lot here, looked at escorts websites, read up on punternet and had my own experiences and just have to say- this is NOT by any means an easy job. You are giving your all and have nothing to hide behind.

Be yourself, look your best and keep a smile on your face and thats all you can do. Don't let clients make you feel bad about yourself or how you're doing.

They  are only looking out for themselves, and don't have your feelings or interests at heart.   You rock, sweety! Carry on and don't get discouraged.   :-*

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I would be thinking very hard if I wanted to work for an agency like that, I am Indy anyway.

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I can say one thing for sure, I have never asked a client how I did. I dunno maybe I'm a freak and I'm not saying you shouldn't or anything but I don't think clients expect to be giving you feedback during the appointment, seems like it'd be awkward (same way I feel if a client asks me if I'll see him again - if I won't I don't really want to say that to his face while he's on paid time!). So when he said most escorts ask... I would guess he was lying.

I've never asked how I did... I would hope somebody would tell me there and then if something was wrong or they were unhappy, but I've never said "How was I?"

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I've never asked how I did... I would hope somebody would tell me there and then if something was wrong or they were unhappy, but I've never said "How was I?"

I've asked mid-BJ, "Do you like that?" but that's quite a different thing! :P

There isn't much point of post-booking feedback in our job; either a client tells us he prefers certain sex acts performed in a certain way while we still have time to accommodate his wishes, or he has a random rant at the end of an appointment about which we can do nothing.

The only reason he might have that random rant is either because he's a bit foolish, or because he thinks he can, by attacking the sex worker's confidence, get her to agree to reduce her price/increase her services, or possibly just make himself feel better because he's not very nice. Now, the vast majority of clients are not fools (and the vast majority aren't mean, either, so either of the kinds I'm mentioning here are thankfully rare!) but the latter type are not unknown. I would be suspicious of a client wanting to talk about how I'm not-quite-good-enough-for-him when it's too late for me to try to do better; I'd reckon he didn't really have my best interests at heart!
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Hey everyone - thanks for all the thoughtful replies as they were all very helpful and reassuring. I just want to clarify that I do not work for a sketchy agency that won't pay me or screen clients. My driver paid me as soon as I got in the car and we have a very strict safety protocol. My agency pays 50% of our school tuition and is generally one of the most reputable agencies in Toronto. The guy I saw was a regular - apparently all the girls really like him (I have talked to some and they say they think he's lovely) so I don't know, I feel like this is just a weird random situation. I want to mention that his tone of voice when speaking to me was very polite and calm and it didn't really seem like he was talking down to me although he kind of did. Meh. I told my agency owner and she says she's very sorry that happened and didn't think he was going to be like that as she hasn't had any complaints about him before. So last night she sent me to another regular and he was amazingly amazingly sweet though very far from being considered attractive. I don't really blame my agency too much as I think it was an honest fluke but they won't be sending me to him again so it's ok. Thanks everyone!

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It's one thing to say "You weren't as good as I was" (which is basically what he's saying) but another to say "Ask me what I thought" first! File under never-to-be-seen-again prat.

As far as compliments go, I took the attitude that the biggest compliment is that they're prepared to pay to get me, especially if they did it more than once. Anything else from them was a bonus, but not expected. In my experience, there's more of an expectation that you'll complement them. I tried to keep that honest, but not everyone does.

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The guy I saw was a regular - apparently all the girls really like him (I have talked to some and they say they think he's lovely) so I don't know, I feel like this is just a weird random situation.

Maybe he was just intimidated by you, then. Not your fault if you're gorgeous, so definitely don't worry about it! :)

And no matter what other people say, or how politely someone may say something, if YOU feel uncomfortable that's the only thing that matters! I'm glad you spoke up about him and I'm glad the agency owner listened. Many agencies can be deeply unscrupulous so don't mind my fretting.

Glad you had tons more success with client #2! May there be many more clients with positive attitudes in all of our futures. ;D
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I think that it's not necessarily what the client said or didn't say which triggered these feelings in you, but the mere fact that it was your first time having sex for money. Or maybe it's just how I see things from my experince. I had a nice, normal man as a first client, everything went smoothly, he didn't do or say anything out or the norm for a perfect gentleman, but after "it" I had these unsettling feeling of discomfort similar to what you describe in your post. It probably was just the novelty factor of being an escort. All this emotional storm settled in 2-3 days and I started to feel good about being an escort and no longer have indefinable feelings of discomfort.

Just take your time and let your feelings settle and then see how you feel in a few days about it, chances are you will be confident, happy with the money and eager to do it again.
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