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ana30

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Legal question regarding erotic massage
« on: 13 May 2011, 12:26:05 am »
Hi, I'm guess I should be asking this to a lawyer but before I do I wanted to get some feedback from the board.

So this is my story: I'm a London based  tantric independent masseuse with  a good base of a clientele and was thinking in hiring & training a few girls and have them work for me (no full service or extras on offer, just an excellent therapeutic massage with a HR ending). I was thinking in hiring a total of  5 girls (a rota of one per day Mond- thru Frid). Because I happen to be a certified masseuse I was planing to set up a very professional "legit" and straight looking website with no mention to "happy endings", maybe the word "tantric"or "naturist massage" thrown in the mix, alongside with deep tissue, Swedish sports etc.. and some beautiful black and white headshots of the girls. My question is: will I get in trouble with the law?

I know there's a few Tantric incall places in central  London with 3 girls per day. They have huge websites full of nudity, references to Indian philosophy and images of Budha promising to cure impotence bla..bla bla....that advertise all over the place and have been operating for more than 15 years. I guess if they're getting away with it it shouldn't be that ilegal....right...? I know for a fact that some sketchy Chinese herbal places get with ilegal asian girls get raided (duh!), but any masseuse here has heard of these type of  "legit" tantric places getting raided?

Any feedback would be highly apreciated (although I'm aware this is a question for a lawyer not for a forum).

(please mods feel free to move or change this post if you find it necessary. Thanks!  ;D)
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Re: Legal question regarding erotic massage
« Reply #1 on: 13 May 2011, 01:21:16 am »
The current situation is that you're selling a sexual service, so legally, you're a prostitute just as much as someone offering sexual intercourse for money. You're thinking about hiring other prostitutes.

If you actually did that, you'd be controlling prostitution for gain, just as with an escort agency. Have a place to do this in and you'd be controlling a brothel too. (If they've never done anything like this, you'd also be inciting prostitution, but that's easy to get around.)

Will anyone care? It depends on how much you annoy the neighbours as much as anything. As you've noticed, lots of people do much more than that without getting into trouble. They could do so, but there's a limited budget for policing prostitution and some rather higher priorities than going after small operations that don't annoy people. The police in the London borough I used to work in issued a planning document saying they would raid one brothel per.. I think it was per quarter. There were at least five brothels on our project's street...

Will you get into trouble? Very probably not. Could you? Yes.

It's up to you whether you want to take that risk. When it does go wrong with this sort of setup, it's usually because some police operation fails to find what it is looking for and decides that it's going to convict someone of something and brothels are an easy target for that.

(Not a lawyer.)
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Re: Legal question regarding erotic massage
« Reply #2 on: 13 May 2011, 01:55:04 am »
Hmm.... I'm not from the UK, I  was under the (wrong) impression that  the law treated full service places differently than sensual massage. ???
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« Reply #3 on: 13 May 2011, 02:17:45 am »
Nope. One of the brothel cases establishes that you don't need to have sexual intercourse on offer for the place to be a brothel, and the Sexual Offences Act 2003 is very clear that doing or offering any sexual service in return for any financial arrangement makes you a 'prostitute' for life (there's no way to stop being one!) even if someone was forcing you to do so.

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Re: Legal question regarding erotic massage
« Reply #4 on: 21 May 2011, 01:10:39 am »
It's a little ambiguous!

I used to know a girl who 'managed' other girls.  Eventually her neighbours noticed all the guys going in and out and reported her to the police, who gave her a warning; she had to move house and set up elsewhere.  Hand relief = sexual service = prostitution, in the eyes of the law you are controlling prostitution for gain which is illegal
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Re: Legal question regarding erotic massage
« Reply #5 on: 21 May 2011, 01:31:44 am »
It's really not that ambiguous, the place at Paddington has just made it seem so by knowingly or otherwise talking complete crap. See Ian's post above.

Oh, and those disclaimers are utterly, unequivocally meaningless, and will be of no more help in the event of police action than hiding in the wardrobe. The trick is to avoid doing anything that will get the police interested (underage prostitutes, drugs, illegal workers and so on) and as stated already, try not to upset the neighbours.
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