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Re: Considering escorting, would like advice
« Reply #15 on: 05 August 2023, 09:25:18 pm »
Hi again Faye,


Not all clients want to see white British sex workers. Everyone has their preferences.  If you look at AW you will see there are lots of different races that advertise. Someone might book someone because of their  body shape , maybe they like fake breasts, maybe they like petite girls, maybe they like bbw girls? Or they are looking for a service - girlfriend experience , domination , gang bangs. I think you’re overthinking about what is right and wrong. Every one has a type. Some men only like oriental girls - there are even agencies that just advertise oriental girls.

What you calculated seems a little low.

For example let’s say your rate is  £130 per hour. You use a dayuse hotel. It costs £90 for 11am - 6pm. Expenses to hotel are unknown but say it’s £20 for your Uber home and back. Your AW fees roughly £11 per day. Plus some other small expenses. So expenses a day are around £130. That’s one, one hour booking. Aim for 3 and you have £260 profit. Also you have to take into consideration booking times like 30 minute bookings or bookings over an hour that are different rates.  With proper marketing , good picture and good communication with clients that is doable. Worse case scenario is you break even? Making a loss is another risk you take with short term accommodation. Unfortunately not every day is the same and business can be slow some periods.


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Re: Considering escorting, would like advice
« Reply #16 on: 05 August 2023, 09:50:00 pm »
Thanks a lot Faye - your reply is really helpful.

Would it help if I gave a description of my physical appearance? My family and friends all say I'm pretty, if I ask myself I feel moderately pretty on the best days and pretty undesirable on the worst. Back in the day, I used to get a lot of attention from straight guys on dating apps which is how I scored my (unsuccessful) dates.

My voice still sounds mostly like a guy at the moment though, but I'm training to sound more female.

Your estimate sounds very promising, however is it really that easy to line up three guys for an hour each on the same day in the same place? And how often would such a thing happen? I'm both very excited that I could make much more money than I need, and nervous that I might make not enough. It's just hard to predict!

I've thought of a question by the way? You say I need to declare income to HMRC once it gets about £1000 (and later down the line, I'll be paying my taxes and possibly my student loan if my income exceeds ~£27,000/yr), right? But suppose I booked a hotel and had a session there with a client, the client pays me £130 in notes, and on the way out I pay £90 to the hotel clerk using some of the notes that my client gave me. Would the income declared to HMRC be £130 or £40?

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Re: Considering escorting, would like advice
« Reply #17 on: 05 August 2023, 10:26:10 pm »
Would it help if I gave a description of my physical appearance? My family and friends all say I'm pretty, if I ask myself I feel moderately pretty on the best days and pretty undesirable on the worst.

I have never seen an advertising site which didn't require you to write at least something about yourself; this is your opportunity to get your SW 'personality' across as well as details about your appearance. You're really overthinking the ethnicity though - we're talking about men who want to get their end away and then leave - providing you're not claiming to be from X or Y country when you can't speak the language if's unlikely anybody will care (and those who are that picky will book providers with face pictures). Punters who book you know you're trans and won't expect you to sound like a woman (even if all women sounded the same, which they don't).

I've thought of a question by the way? You say I need to declare income to HMRC once it gets about £1000 (and later down the line, I'll be paying my taxes and possibly my student loan if my income exceeds ~£27,000/yr), right? But suppose I booked a hotel and had a session there with a client, the client pays me £130 in notes, and on the way out I pay £90 to the hotel clerk using some of the notes that my client gave me. Would the income declared to HMRC be £130 or £40?

The income declared to HMRC in the example above would be £130, then the expenses would be £90; therefore the taxable profit would be £40. You need to make sure you get and keep receipts for everything - condoms, hosiery and lingerie you buy for work, travel and so on or you can't claim the costs back.

I'd register with HMRC as soon as you get started, since you need to make sure your National Insurance is sorted too. Putting it off means it's more likely you'll forget altogether (although I may be projecting there :)).

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« Reply #18 on: 06 August 2023, 09:38:24 am »
Amy, I think you misunderstood my question. I was asking if it would help for me to describe my physical appearance here in this thread.

Thank you for your advise - it's a relief to know that I won't get taxed on work related expenses (I'm very surprised that even hosiery and lingerie would be non taxable). Though, all this business with taxes and HMRC and National Insurance does sound quite complicated, I suppose it's up to me to do research on all this.

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« Reply #19 on: 06 August 2023, 10:26:27 am »
Amy, I think you misunderstood my question. I was asking if it would help for me to describe my physical appearance here in this thread.

No, that won't be necessary. Sex workers come in all shapes and sizes, we are not here to judge or be judged, and none of us are punters anyway.

Thank you for your advise - it's a relief to know that I won't get taxed on work related expenses (I'm very surprised that even hosiery and lingerie would be non taxable). Though, all this business with taxes and HMRC and National Insurance does sound quite complicated, I suppose it's up to me to do research on all this.

Anything you buy/pay for exclusively for work is tax deductible. So if you wear the lingerie (or makeup, as another example) outside work it isn't, but if you don't then it can all be included  There is a very long thread about it on the board already :).

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Re: Considering escorting, would like advice
« Reply #20 on: 06 August 2023, 03:18:56 pm »
I suppose I'd like to get a concern off my chest; not long ago, I dreamed of one day being married and having (adoptive) children. Am I putting that in jeopardy by becoming a sex worker?

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Re: Considering escorting, would like advice
« Reply #21 on: 06 August 2023, 07:28:26 pm »
quite a few of clients see TS or trans (female) intact escorts.
These are st8 guys that seem to enjoy pegging by fems or bi oral play with Female (MTF) escorts. i.e former biological males undergoing hormone treatment and with breast implants. I've done a few duo meets that have been arranged by clients. Alot of the trans escorts wont do anything with involves anal (either receiving or giving) so this may suit.If you look feminine I'm sure you will do well. Feel free to PM me if you wish.

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« Reply #22 on: 06 August 2023, 07:48:53 pm »
I don't know what 'st8' means, but there is no 'former' with biology.

I suppose I'd like to get a concern off my chest; not long ago, I dreamed of one day being married and having (adoptive) children. Am I putting that in jeopardy by becoming a sex worker?

Sex work doesn't preclude anybody from getting married and a lot of sex workers already are, but yes, it's likely to put a spanner in the works if you plan to adopt. How much of a spanner likely depends a lot on whether you were still working or retired; the most important thing is not to lie - they will find out.

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« Reply #23 on: 06 August 2023, 08:50:50 pm »
Hi Peggy and thanks for lending your advice,

I'm on hormones but I don't have breast implants. I have boobs and curves but they're quite modest. The hormones nearly eliminated my facial hair but not so much my body hair in other places so as a sex worker I'd have to be shaving my legs a lot and may want to look into getting laser treatment on them. By the way, should I shave my pubic hair if I'm going to be a sex worker? I used to as a teenager but don't anymore, because it was a lot of work and sometimes irritated the area a lot. I look "feminine" enough to almost always get addressed as female by strangers, if that means anything for sex work. By "intact" do you mean pre-op (which I am)?

I'm a virgin in fact so I don't know for sure what I do and don't like, but I'd feel feel okay about receiving anal sex as long as it wasn't painful and wouldn't lead to health problems of any sort (are you able to advise on that Peggy?) On the other hand, giving anal sex (using my actual parts and not a strap on) sounds very uncomfortable and maybe physically impossible, so I'd better stick to either not topping or topping with a strap on.

I'm grateful you're optimistic for my success, Peggy, but honestly I'm still just really scared of not making enough to stay afloat.

Amy, I think Peggy meant "straight" (heterosexual) by "st8."

Thank you for your advise, Amy. But, I've never even had a boyfriend as a non sex worker (despite wanting to have one), so the idea of getting married while being a sex worker sounds nigh impossible, as surely the vast majority of guys would be uncomfortable with their spouse having sex with other men for a living? That's on top of the having to be okay with my being trans, pre-op, mixed race, and having a mutual attraction between us.

I'm sad to hear that sex work would put a spanner in the works of adoption. If I ever do adopt, it will likely not be for several years if not decades so it's a while away to think about. This makes me doubt my decision more and makes me afraid of regretting turning to sex work in the future. I'm struggling with the choice a lot, honestly.

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« Reply #24 on: 06 August 2023, 09:03:36 pm »
Well straight would be 'str8' with an 'r', but I suspect you're right. It might be easier if we all just used plain English :).

There is no 'should' when it come to your appearance/grooming; some people remove some (or all) body hair, some just do bits and some (like me) don't remove any. There is work for us all, regardless.

I don't think the adoption situation is cast in stone, and every case is different, but yes I'd think it would need to be very much in the past. As for relationships - again, everybody is different - it's a job like any other and whilst some men/women find it difficult to accept, others can recognise this.

I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with somebody who punched other people in the head, but there's a big difference between a professional boxer and somebody who just likes fighting in a pub car park ;D.
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« Reply #25 on: 06 August 2023, 09:13:04 pm »
I'm extremely grateful who has given me guidance on how I can be an escort if I decide to, but I'm still struggling to decide if becoming an escort in the first place is a good idea (considering everything I've explained about my case). I would find it very helpful to get honest input on that question.
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« Reply #26 on: 06 August 2023, 09:26:16 pm »
I shared a flat with a Trans Woman escort ( hope I’ve got it right ) and she was incredibly busy
This was after Covid in Northampton

Any trans women that I’ve known of over the years have generally been very busy
From my memory thr lady in Northampton was from Thailand and  she only did 1hr bookings at 200 -250 per hour

It a niche market and very popular - I’ve been an escort for a long time but it opened my eyes 😂
You just have to market yourself - don’t sell yourself short

I would have a look at others  on AW and get some general ideas

And good luck

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« Reply #27 on: 06 August 2023, 09:32:02 pm »
Hi RB1,

Thanks very much for your input - reading your message made me grin with excitement that I might earn good money!

I will not disclose the name of the town I live in but it isn't Northhampton, I'm not sure how the demand for trans sex workers compares but it hopefully shouldn't be too much less.

Thank you for your support.

Rosabella

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« Reply #28 on: 07 August 2023, 12:10:47 pm »
So many issues in this thread.

i'm with those who think you should get more hands on personal experience before doing sex work.
I'm also concerned about you working alone when you are so in experienced. - I don't think something terrible will happen to you. Punters are OK. But I think you will need support - someone to talk to face to fac between clients if this is all your first time doing these things and then you have to do them to time as a business.

Anyway.
One thing I want to say is your fees - think of a number and make it higher.

Be the most expensive person in your area.

The punters will still come.

When a new ad goes up, they will flood you with enquiries.
Note it is easy to drop your prices later but harder to rise the prices.

No matter where you are in the country I would expect to advertise at a minimum of £150 per hour - you are new and young so you have that on your side.

On the ethnicity thing - you are British. That's it  - mixed race if you like - maybe don't even mention it
If you have to say anything about it at all. People know British people come in all colours so don't worry about anyone expecting an English rose. British is your culture - your education and background. Punters visiting YOU for an hour or so and paying all that money aren't just wanting to see a body, they are interested in you.
Don't play up the Asian thing - time people do have certain things in mind from "Asians" which is about not being British in behaviour.


You may be amazed how much sex work isn't about sex - it's about people connecting and what you look like isn't so important (thank goodness for us fat old women!).


I am also an introvert, but I put on a personality for my clients, an act - it's a show. You should decide on your whole backstory - which doesn't have to be the truth - because if you are with a client for 60 minutes, 30 minutes might be a conversation.
And expect them to come back and pick up that conversation.
So you need to know the story you tell punters and stick to it so you can be consistent over months and years of seeing the same people.

Also, you need to be assertive, you guide the session, you keep everything moving along and to time. So you need to plan it before hand.







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Re: Considering escorting, would like advice
« Reply #29 on: 07 August 2023, 02:15:06 pm »
Hi DBLM,

I'm very grateful for your reply.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "so many issues in this thread"?

I appreciate your advise that I should get sexual experience before becoming a sex worker. Unfortunately, that would leave me with the problem of how I should get it, which I find not easy. I've never had a boyfriend before and I find the idea of using dating apps to meet guys for flings kind of daunting (it hasn't exactly gone well in the past, I would get a lot of sexual attention from men but it was mostly older men and men who were physically or otherwise unnattractive to me). I haven't left my house for the express purpose of socializing in over a month, and when I do it really just isn't simple to find guys who mutually want to have sex. (most of my IRL friends are women, some gay men too)

Yes, the topic of danger was something I really wanted to raise in this thread, especially as it's the main reason that my family don't support me becoming an escort. Just how likely is it that I will be faced with serious violence from clients?

I hear your concern about me being isolated and having nobody to talk to. What do you recommend as a solution to this?

I'm very excited to think about earning such good money. I like your advice that it's easier to drop prices than raise them. I'm just a bit worried of overshooting or being too optimistic.

Thank you for your advice about the ethnicity, I will take that. I predict that if I advertise as British and do not mention my half Asian racial heritage, some clients won't even notice it, and others will but I'll hope they won't mind.

I am very introverted and so I'm honestly maybe a bit nervous about the "people connecting" aspect to begin with, but I believe that I will learn in time. I'm a nice person, I believe.

Yes, I've heard mentions that part of being an escort is essentially like being an actress. I'm not sure how good I would be at such a thing. Your suggestion about inventing a potentially false backstory for my work persona is a very interesting one, I'm not sure to what extent I'll do something like that. I don't see any reason to tell lies about my life story as long as I'm not providing clients with deeply personal info or info that can be used to uncover my privacy and anonymity? Should I tell the truth about how I came to be a sex worker in the first place (explained in OP of this thread), since I feel like that's a part of my history that clients will be especially keen to talk about? How about if my clients ask about my history regarding my being trans?

I'm quite surprised that you say that as an escort, I'll be "assertive" and "guiding the session." I always imagined the job as taking orders from the client about what he wants to do with the time, as long as it doesn't cross some boundaries like unprotected sex. I will make my boundaries clear and not allow clients to push them.
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