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tallsally

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Confused - Is sex included ?
« on: 23 August 2008, 04:45:48 am »
I know that this is a naive question, but I'm confused.
Due to financial problems a friend suggested that escort work may be the solution.
She told me that all I had to do was to go for a meal with a guy, like it was a date. And the agency would pay me ?70.
Also if I decided to have sex with him, then I would get an extra ?70.
After looking at this and various other web sites, it seems to me that sex is usually part of the service but shouldn't be expected by the guy.
My friend said that escort services were mostly used by lonely business men, away from home and that it was paid for using company expenses.
And that I didn't have sex with any of them, if I didn't want to.
Is this true ? As I always thought an escort was a sex worker.
Hopefully any replies will help me clear up any confusion I may have.

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Fallingstar

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #1 on: 23 August 2008, 09:28:24 am »

Hi Tallsally

If you decide to take up working as an escort then make no mistake about it 99.9% of the time clients will expect you to have sex (or sexual contact of some kind) with them.
Agencies use the 'Time and Companionship' line in order to avoid running into trouble with the law but the agency,client and escort all know that sex is involved as part of the arrangement
Which isn't to say you are at the mercy of whatever the client decides to do,you should decide beforehand what your sexual parameters are  and stick to them,a good agency should ask what these are and only book you with suitable clients.

Perhaps somewhere there are 'social escort' agencies where sex isn't involved but none that i have ever seen or heard of.

I would say that if you agree to go to dinner with this guy he will expect sex as part of the package so think long and hard as to whether or not this is something you are happy with.

Look after yourself

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brandy@saafe

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #2 on: 23 August 2008, 11:26:50 am »
Yes, there are sites that are dedicated to social escorting only. I honestly wouldn't know where to find them but if you do a bit of googling you might find them. But they are very few and far between and there really isn't much of a demand for them. Most escorting does involve sex of some kind. As an independent it's more or less expected of you.
Agencies work differently. If you do get into it you need to speak to a few and see what is involved and what is to be expected of you. And don't pay any money upfront if asked.

tallsally

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #3 on: 23 August 2008, 01:10:53 pm »
 OK, thankyou for your advice.
I did think that it was 'to good to be true'.

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strawberry

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #4 on: 23 August 2008, 06:30:30 pm »
Funnily enough a few years before I started Escorting an old friend said the same for me. He really thought the classified ads in the local paper/contact magazines were for companionship.

I met up with him shortly after starting as an independent. He couldn't believe I was offering the full 'package' - still told me that wasn't expected as part of the job.

It's an old myth.

brandy@saafe

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #5 on: 23 August 2008, 08:33:07 pm »
OK, thankyou for your advice.
I did think that it was 'to good to be true'.

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I feel a little bad now. I'm sorry if that wasn't what you wanted to hear. But to those that aren't in the industry yes, people are under the misconception that social escorting is a big thing, I don't know if it's a documentary they've seen or something they've read in the papers or magazines. It really isn't.

Yes, gents are lonely, they're also horny and want the female companionship, not just mentally but physically too. They want what is called "the girlfriend experience". You have such things as dinner dates or say overnights, where you're a companion at dinner, his company at the dinner table for a couple of hours. But then things move back into the hotel bedroom. Sometimes you may not even have to have full sex. But there is always some form of intimacy. If this isn't something you feel you can provide then this isn't the right job for you.

tallsally

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #6 on: 28 August 2008, 08:02:17 am »
  But if sex isn't part of the service. The client can't complain because he knows 'that any money paid to the adult escorts listed on this website is for their time and companionship only. Whatever else that may occur if and when contact is made is the choice of consenting adults.'
 

brandy@saafe

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #7 on: 28 August 2008, 09:18:41 am »
  But if sex isn't part of the service. The client can't complain because he knows 'that any money paid to the adult escorts listed on this website is for their time and companionship only. Whatever else that may occur if and when contact is made is the choice of consenting adults.'
 

That paragraph was invented by the Americans to put on their sites because it's illegal over there. It's not really something we needed to here as it's legal but we adopted it anyway. Just to cover our arses I guess. It's superfluous text.

At the end of the day sex is usually included. If you want to be a social only escort then you can give it a try. 'Though I've seen ladies that offer massage/hand relief/body to body massage/toy play and not engage in full sex. It has been done and there is a market for it if you don't mind getting involved at that level. There are some gents that don't want to have full sex for whatever reasons and are happy with the above.

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #8 on: 28 August 2008, 06:55:51 pm »
There is also a practical issue in charging for time.  Some of my clients take ages to ummmm...arrive!  In this context it would be impractical or impossible to charge for sex acts. 

brandy@saafe

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #9 on: 29 August 2008, 07:01:28 am »
There is also a practical issue in charging for time.  Some of my clients take ages to ummmm...arrive!  In this context it would be impractical or impossible to charge for sex acts. 

That's the thing. If you're going into escorting without full personal sex, then you'll find you'll be unable to charge the same as a "regular" escort.

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Re: Confused - Is sex included ?
« Reply #10 on: 30 August 2008, 01:48:14 pm »
  But if sex isn't part of the service. The client can't complain because he knows 'that any money paid to the adult escorts listed on this website is for their time and companionship only. Whatever else that may occur if and when contact is made is the choice of consenting adults.'
 

There's something for me here about deviating from the truth. If a client were to book you and going from your statement above and as another girl has mentioned is just jargon but anyone using the services of an escort knows that it is a sexual service. You have to be really clear about what service you want to provide. So if you have a website clarify your do's and donts and in your pricing you need to refect this and you are only available to...... I know this industry has a lot of lingo OWO, OW, A Levels etc etc it can be cloak and daggerish so do your research read up on all the info as I feel you need to focus on where your target group will be. Some lingo you would need to avoid as there will be a thin line if associations are made with sex industry speak.
How you construct your business and how accurate it is defined stops timewasters, which you may have a lot of if they are looking for sexual services.
I'm not saying being purely a social escort/companion wont work but you really need to focus on the market and where and how you market yourself. All the very best xxx