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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: anushka on 24 April 2013, 11:41:50 am
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Hi Ladies,
I have had herpes virus for years and used to get an outbursts of cold sores on my lips time to time. But lately it just became unbearable get them every two weeks. One week takes for them to heal, one week cold-sore-free and here we go again... I noticed that I get them after loads or rough kissing. I have to stress that clients did not have any visible cold sores on them at the time of booking. I don't know if that's a coincidence or not but it drives me mad :FF
I like kissing so I can't see any problem with kissing client but if that is the case I will have to stop doing that.
I am also going through a bit of a stressfull time in my private life so may be that's the case and kissing is just the coincidence. I hope so :)
Has anyone had similar situation and how did you deal with that? I'm sure I am not the only one with this problem as the herpes is so widely spread now.
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There is a definite link between stress and outbreaks, and here outbreaks = more stress because of the impact on the work too.
Are you using any of the antiviral medicines to help limit the duration and intensity of each outbreak?
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No, i using those special clear plasters. They seem to be working and its less possibility to spread and not so sore when its covered but still it takes time to heal and i can't work during that week.
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I used to get cold sore outbreaks as often as you do at the moment, and they would always show up when I was very stressed or a little under the weather. During a particularly stressful period, I had blisters on my lips continuously for about 2 months!
So yes, in my experience stress can definitely trigger them.
It's interesting you should mention kissing, I had the same thoughts. My boyfriend always has a bit of a stubble, it's soft, but if we do lots of very full-on, 'aggressive' kissing (you know the kind 8)) I can sometimes feel the tingling sensation around my lips. It also happens when my lips are dry and cracked, so perhaps it is something to do with the delicate skin getting irritated and therefore more prone to outbreaks?
I find that if I apply the cold sore cream as soon as I feel even the slightest tingle, it usually stops the blisters from forming. Important: when you apply the cold sore cream, remember to also put some on your face, along the nearest nerve, begin the application from that area, moving towards the blister (if you do it the other way around, you might risk spreading the infection to other parts of your face). So for upper lip it's the area around the side of your nose/cheek/under the eye; bottom lip - chin and jaw. You can google 'facial nerves' for pictures to get a better idea, it's a bit difficult for me to explain ;).
If you feel the tingle and don't have any cream/plasters to hand, I find that touching the affected area for a few second with an ice cube, basically 'freezing it' a bit, tends to help as well.
Do you take any vitamins/supplements for your overall health? I seem to be getting the sores very rarely these days, it's only when I'm very run down/weak/extremely stressed. Taking a few supplements seems to have improved my general wellbeing and helps keep the nasty sores at bay too.
I hope you find a way to beat the bastards ;P Good luck!
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I used to get them all the time. Weekly sometimes. My doctor recommended a supplement called l-lysine (check out the reviews online for coldsore treatment) and I haven't had one for a year now. I've also been told a diet high in sugar will really aggrevate them. Throw out any makeup you have that might have come into contact with them as this will keep spreading the virus.
Make sure you are as relaxed as possible too (easier said than done) so maybe try going to bed a bit earlier every night and having a relaxing bath etc.
And finally tea tree oil can help speed up healing
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Lysine tablets are a god send. Get them from any health shop and take them regularly they help deter outbreaks.
I too find stubble/rough kissing gives me more of an outbreak but these tablets have helped xx
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Thanks for advice girls :-* I will definitely give a try to lysine.
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Hi Ladies,
I have had herpes virus for years and used to get an outbursts of cold sores on my lips time to time. But lately it just became unbearable get them every two weeks. One week takes for them to heal, one week cold-sore-free and here we go again... I noticed that I get them after loads or rough kissing. I have to stress that clients did not have any visible cold sores on them at the time of booking. I don't know if that's a coincidence or not but it drives me mad :FF
I like kissing so I can't see any problem with kissing client but if that is the case I will have to stop doing that.
I am also going through a bit of a stressfull time in my private life so may be that's the case and kissing is just the coincidence. I hope so :)
Has anyone had similar situation and how did you deal with that? I'm sure I am not the only one with this problem as the herpes is so widely spread now.
Sea salt mixed in water then keep applying. I have sea salt in a jug mixed up. I use for every thing. It speeds up the healing process.
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Try tea-tree oil!!! Honest to god, works a treat!!X
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I bought L-Lysin tablets and tea-tree oil will try both see how it works.
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Have a look on Amazon for ViruLite. It's a new treatment in the form of a little gadget that uses light to treat. I have one and its the best thingI have ever used. You still won't be able to work but it stops the sore from going to the scab stage and clears it up in record time. Boots also have their own version in larger stores.
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L-lysine works a treat. I got sum for my son, he was getting them all the time. Before he got married I bought him some. They are brilliant.
Good luck with it all & let us know yr opinion.
xx
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I don't know if this will be irrelevant but my lip swelled up pretty bad a couple of days ago, dunno maybe a mouth ulcer. After applying sea salt. Yesterday it was down with a little open. And today completely gone. Maybe it will give quick results with cold sores as well. It is worth a try.
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L-lysine works a treat. I got sum for my son, he was getting them all the time. Before he got married I bought him some. They are brilliant.
Good luck with it all & let us know yr opinion.
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You can get lysine as a cream as well as tablets from holland and barret along with tea tree oil and sea salt and they have there penny sale on at the moment so if you buy tablets one you get the second one for a penny
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I started taking Lysine and using tea-tree oil at the same time. Haven't had such a speedy recovery in my life as this time. The cold sores started showing on Wednesday and Sunday it was all clear. So yes, those two products are worth trying. Now just fingers crossed that the Lysin will work further and the cold sores will disappear at least for a while. Thanks for the suggestions. Really appreciated. :-*
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thankyou so much for this thread - pulling on my jeans and going to holland and barrats NOW!!
i get at least 4 coldsores a year but this one is really taking the biscuit! skint - pulled muscle - sore throat and now coldscore! goddammmitt! really miserable, it seems iv tried every remedy in the book but this sounds good.
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Hi
I bought a product on line called H Balm. Its imported for the states. It dries your skin out but it works a treat ! I take Lysine now. Really good. Dont forget you can get Acyclovir tablets on prescription if its really bad.
Good Luck
xx
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thankyou so much for this thread - pulling on my jeans and going to holland and barrats NOW!!
i get at least 4 coldsores a year but this one is really taking the biscuit! skint - pulled muscle - sore throat and now coldscore! goddammmitt! really miserable, it seems iv tried every remedy in the book but this sounds good.
Grace your in Bristol aren't you ....
If you go to Holland & Barret in Cabot Circus you can get Ly-sine tablets on 2 for 1 one so its ?7.50 for 2 bottles get the 500mg also get the lysine balm and tea tree oil it will cost you about ?15 Cold sore will be gone in a by the end of the week
Keep taking the tablets every day regardless of if you have a cold sore or not
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Some tips regarding cold sores...
Ensure your Zinc levels are good, a Vitamin C & Zinc supplement is good as Zinc interferes with the virus ability to reproduce.
If you want to reduce the risk of getting a cold sore you can use Aciclovir (Zovirax) cream as a preventative measure. Put a tiny amount on and rub it in to your lips so it won't notice.
If you get an outbreak use the cream ASAP and keep using it for a few days after any visible signs have gone this weakens the virus for the next outbreak.
To speed up the process place ice on the sore, it can be uncomfortable and cause your lip to go numb but the virus depends on being at body temperature to reproduce. Chilling the area slows down reproduction of the virus while the Aciclovir cream sets to work killing the virus.
Lastly REST as much as possible, you will find that your immune system works its magic at attacking the virus much better when you are asleep. I have found that a sore that would normally take over a week to go can be dealt with in 3 days this way.
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Praise this thread! I was wondering if it were acceptable for people who get cold sores to escort. :-X This answers that question and gives some amazing advice.
I've always used rubbing alcohol or hydrogen peroxide the moment i feel the tingles and 50% of the time it will stop the blister from forming. After it's formed though, I'll use those to keep the area sanitized and dry. I have to be careful that I don't let me lips dry out to much because if they crack, there's another sore.
I'm definitely going to try and get my hands on some of this Lysine & Zovirax and use them for prevention.
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Am I the only one that doesn't get any warning signs that they have a cold sore developing?
Seriously I just seem to wake up and there's a cold sore, no tingling or anything.
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Am I the only one that doesn't get any warning signs that they have a cold sore developing?
Seriously I just seem to wake up and there's a cold sore, no tingling or anything.
Unless I wake up to one, I feel this weird discomfort that I guess you could call tingling, I really don't know what other word to use for it, maybe itchy. I guess it feels like there's a small electric current buzzing in my lip, not too noticeable but if my lip brushes up against something and one is forming it's very noticeable.
I guess it's a bit of a blessing that it lets me catch it before it's fully formed, but it literally takes minutes from the initial discomfort for the blister to pop up. I hate the feeling of cold sores.
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I used to get them every few weeks until I started taking lysine tablets from Holland and Barrett every day and when I do get one I put the lysine gel on it and it halves the healing time, it's the only thing I've found to work for me. I try to stay healthy and stress free and rarely get them now.
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Praise this thread! I was wondering if it were acceptable for people who get cold sores to escort. :-X This answers that question and gives some amazing advice.
About 7 in 10 people in the uk already have this virus. Only 1 in 5 get noticeable symptoms.
So i think yes it's acceptable to escort as long as you are outbreak free at the time.
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I found I was getting them a lot when I offered owo, since changing to ow I only get occasionally.
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These have plagued me for a while, although I went a few months without getting any. Then last week I got one and I didn't catch it in time to prevent it. (I used to use just aciclovir ointment.)
Like others have said, vigorous kissing can bring them on - when I got mine I kissed vigorously at the same time I was going through a stressful time. The other thing that can bring them on is sunlight. I own an SPF lip balm but I neglect to wear it every day.
I have managed to keep it small but it's still visible.
I'm going to be prepared in the future. I will always wear my SPF balm. I will take Lysine every day. I already keep aciclovir ointment handy (in my wallet and my bedside table) but I have also ordered the aciclovir tablets and those will travel with me always. If I get to the tingle stage (or even if I miss it by a couple of hours) I will take the tablets for five days. I am also going to buy the infrared light treatment thing from Boots, as I heard that is effective and I will use that as it can be used as well as the ointment. I have heard that ice works but I rarely have that handy - you have to get it when it's still tingling. But if I can also get ahold of ice I will use that, too.
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Wanted to add: if you're working with a patch (which should be OK in terms of containing the potential infectiousness) you might find it helpful to use Lipcote as well. They sell it in places like Boots and I got some in Primark. It's almost like a nail polish you put over top of lipstick to seal it and make it last. I put some over the patch/lip and then put on makeup and then another coat of Lipcoat. It keeps it from lifting at the edges as well as keeps the concealing makeup in place.
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There is a thing called, viral shedding with herpes viruses. When someon does not have an active outbreak, asymptomatic, the virus can be passed onto the partners of the herpes-positive carriers, who can present with a mild symptoms or no symptom whatsoever. This is why herpes can be easily passed on as you do not necessarily see the open sores in your lips or over your genital.
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There is a thing called, viral shedding with herpes viruses. When someon does not have an active outbreak, asymptomatic, the virus can be passed onto the partners of the herpes-positive carriers, who can present with a mild symptoms or no symptom whatsoever. This is why herpes can be easily passed on as you do not necessarily see the open sores in your lips or over your genital.
Since a large majority of people have HSV1, then what?
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There is a thing called, viral shedding with herpes viruses. When someon does not have an active outbreak, asymptomatic, the virus can be passed onto the partners of the herpes-positive carriers, who can present with a mild symptoms or no symptom whatsoever. This is why herpes can be easily passed on as you do not necessarily see the open sores in your lips or over your genital.
Most people have the virus. It's hard to detect in the system without an outbreak, which most people don't get. You can have the virus, spread it, without having a noticeable blister or outbreak on your lip (or genitalia, even). Lots of people have a strong enough immune system to fight the virus and keep it dormant in your nerve endings. Unfortunately, some of us don't (me).
It's a shame people aren't more educated about it. The real reason people are so "disgusted" by a cold sore is because of the stigma attached to it. They are painful and shitty to have. But there are way worse things you can get than a cold sore.
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I woke up yesterday with two! One little and what not so little. What are clients like toward them? Obviously I?ll offer OW what does everyone?s clients make of them?
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I do not work when i have them!
for apparence and because you can infect a punter. i wait at least 2 days.
up to you!
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I don't work if I have a cold sore.
While genital herpes is usually hsv2 it can also be caused by hsv1. And a condom won't stop and mouth to ball or mouth to mouth contact.
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Makes sense! Sometimes mine can take a week or so to clear completely! Plus I get them quite frequently! Not good!
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Take l-lysine supplements. Check out reviews online for them to do with coldsores. I used to get them every month and haven't had one in years now. They also help speed up the healing process if you do get one and you can get l-lysine lipbalms etc too. Amazon sell them
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Take l-lysine supplements. Check out reviews online for them to do with coldsores. I used to get them every month and haven't had one in years now. They also help speed up the healing process if you do get one and you can get l-lysine lipbalms etc too. Amazon sell them
I?ve had them before and they didn?t work! Took them for about 6 months. 😔
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I woke up yesterday with two! One little and what not so little. What are clients like toward them? Obviously I?ll offer OW what does everyone?s clients make of them?
Let's put it this way, if a client turns up and he's got a cold sore my services are drastically reduced or I just ask them to leave and return when they are better.
When I have had a cold sore I have removed full service from my profile and only offered massage with HR.
I do have a little cold sore light machine someone bought me from Boots, it delivers an ultra beam to cold sore to quicken the healing process and I swear by it should I ever get another. If it's a reoccurring problem you can always get the tablets at GPs which you take 1 a day to prevent further outbreaks. You can also take the pills at the beginning of an outbreak which are 4 a day but must start treatment within 48 hours of outbreak.
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You can take aciclovir tablets daily to prevent them. I used to lose so much money and felt really bad for having to cancel bookings all the time because yet another cold sore had popped up overnight - they're meant for genital herpes but I managed to get hold of them online and as long as I remember to take them (especially when I'm feeling stressed - you'll also often notice you'll have a sore throat beforehand) they work wonders and I haven't noticed any side effects.
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You can take aciclovir tablets daily to prevent them. I used to lose so much money and felt really bad for having to cancel bookings all the time because yet another cold sore had popped up overnight - they're meant for genital herpes but I managed to get hold of them online and as long as I remember to take them (especially when I'm feeling stressed - you'll also often notice you'll have a sore throat beforehand) they work wonders and I haven't noticed any side effects.
Yes, i am taking them if necessary and work very well. you can stop to grow as well.
more you can use invisible patch to reduce potential long marks.
i do not know how work in Uk, my family from my country sending to me.
normally you need a prescriptions...not all gp want give you it because it is expansive.
you should talk to your gp and push him/her to give a prescriptions, more if you have a lot of crisis.
Anyway if your immune system is well, you should not have it too much.
so check your diet, your general health...and your stress level also.
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It can be pretty tricky getting it, I know some who get private health checks which show the herpes strain in the system but don't differentiate between genital/cold sores and they can get medication that way, but I don't know if I'm allowed to post details of the site I use to get mine as I don't have private health care so feel free to message me if you'd like more details
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You can get the Acciculavar tablets from a GP you don't need to buy them online. And they are not just for genital herpes they are for herpes in general. I have had them from my GP for cold sores on my lips, I do not have genital herpes and GP has no issue in prescribing them.
Prescriptions are not expensive in the UK.
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My GP refuses to prescribe.
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Mine did too that's why I have to buy them online but they're not super expensive so I don't mind covering that cost (especially considering how much money I used to lose out on before)
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You can get the Acciculavar tablets from a GP you don't need to buy them online. And they are not just for genital herpes they are for herpes in general. I have had them from my GP for cold sores on my lips, I do not have genital herpes and GP has no issue in prescribing them.
Prescriptions are not expensive in the UK.
i know that...the medicament is expansive for NHS...not for us! went to one in london and he doesn t.
depend if you find a kind gp....also i lived in other big city in Europe and my gp didn t give the prescription because of the cost.
where live my family is different, (always in Europe) is a small village and you know every one and they know you ...so not issue to get a prescription. for many cold sore on the lips is nothing..so you should go to your gp and just say that you are working with your apparence...like a victim :-X :-\..if i have it i can not work and blabla..i am depress and i feel not confident...blabla...
some gp they will easy..private gp is better!
so go to a private and should be fine.
there are online gp only for prescription...i never used but i google it fews week ago when i need urgent antibiotic and was weekend
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So glad I found this thread.
I got a small lump on my lip late last week. It was only slightly noticeable when not wearing make up, but once I'd got my lipstick on you couldn't see it at all. At the weekend, thinking it was just a spot (I'd not had any tingling or soreness), I tried to burst it, as it had a tiny head, then put some sudocrem on it. After a couple of days trying sudocrem and toothpaste, it wasn't drying out, and kept cracking open and weeping. It didn't even occur to me that it would be a cold sore as I've never had them before and not knowing what the symptoms were I was constantly picking at it. Lipstick covered it well up until this morning when I woke up, and saw that it was really sore, itchy and angry. I decided to nip over to the chemist. I told her what I'd done, and she said it probably was a spot, everyone carries the virus, it just lies dormant until something triggers it, and me trying to pop it and constantly touching it, has probably done just that. :FF :FF :FF :FF :FF. She suggested Aciclovir 5% cream, which is apparently the same as Zovirax, so hoping it goes away in a few days, and that I don't get another break out. However looking at this thread, the likelyhood of it been a one off seems pretty slim.
I'm praying like mad that I've not passed it on to my hubby over the weekend, and I've now had to message my bookings this week to tell them I've got a cold sore, and if they want to see me there will be no kissing or oral bothways, just massage or S&M. Totally gutted.
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You could always try 'Push doctor' face to face skype consultation with a practising nhs doctor , it's advertised on tv , they don't contact your GP , just say he usually prescribes it and you are away from home , it's 25 quid and the prescription is faxed to your nearest chemist in fifteen mins.
You do have to pay for private prescription but that's it :)
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So glad I found this thread.
I got a small lump on my lip late last week. It was only slightly noticeable when not wearing make up, but once I'd got my lipstick on you couldn't see it at all. At the weekend, thinking it was just a spot (I'd not had any tingling or soreness), I tried to burst it, as it had a tiny head, then put some sudocrem on it. After a couple of days trying sudocrem and toothpaste, it wasn't drying out, and kept cracking open and weeping. It didn't even occur to me that it would be a cold sore as I've never had them before and not knowing what the symptoms were I was constantly picking at it. Lipstick covered it well up until this morning when I woke up, and saw that it was really sore, itchy and angry. I decided to nip over to the chemist. I told her what I'd done, and she said it probably was a spot, everyone carries the virus, it just lies dormant until something triggers it, and me trying to pop it and constantly touching it, has probably done just that. :FF :FF :FF :FF :FF. She suggested Aciclovir 5% cream, which is apparently the same as Zovirax, so hoping it goes away in a few days, and that I don't get another break out. However looking at this thread, the likelyhood of it been a one off seems pretty slim.
I'm praying like mad that I've not passed it on to my hubby over the weekend, and I've now had to message my bookings this week to tell them I've got a cold sore, and if they want to see me there will be no kissing or oral bothways, just massage or S&M. Totally gutted.
aciclovir tablet are better! then cream...both is the best!
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So, I've had 3 coldsores in the last 2 months. The first one I had was in March and was my first ever, which lasted about 2 weeks. The second is currently 17 days and shows no sign of getting better, and the 3rd turned up about 3 or 4 days after my second and lasted about 5 days and has now gone.
I'm at my wits end with the current one, as nothing seems to be shifting it. I've had 2 courses of Aciclovir tabs, still apply the Aciclovir cream, taking 5grams of Lycine a day, have eaten a whole bulb of garlic last weekend, which hubby wasn't happy about. :D Have also been to the drs who said that the cream is just as good as the tablets, and I'm better off just buying the cream as it's cheaper than getting a prescription. I'm going again next week, as not happy how I was fobbed off. Apparently using pure vanilla helps as it's also antiviral like garlic, so will give that a try this weekend, but don't hold out much hope.
I don't feel run down, and my stress levels are pretty much the same as they've always been (although, it may be a little higher than usual at the mo, because this damn coldsore is doing my head in). I've trawled the net to see if there is anything else that can be done to get rid of it, but most sites say they'll go away on their own eventually, and alarmingly some people have had the same coldsore for up to 2 years. :o I really hope that's not going to be the case here.
Will see what the dr says next week, but has anyone else ever had coldsores that last for such a long time (not how frequent you get them)? And was there something that actually worked to get rid of it? I know everyone is different, so what might work for some may not work for others, but I'm willing to give anything a try at the moment. I was under the impression after your first outbreak the ones after usually last about 5 to 7 days.
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The most effective treatment I've found was an infrared light gadget sold at boots. Fucking miraculous. Unfortunately, it has been discontinued. :(
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The most effective treatment I've found was an infrared light gadget sold at boots. Fucking miraculous. Unfortunately, it has been discontinued. :(
They are sold on Amazon too. Not the same brand as boots but the same thing.