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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Maz on 21 October 2021, 11:49:09 am
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Does anyone else feel uncomfortable or put off kissing clients with bad/missing teeth?
I've only ever seen a couple but really don't like it and they tend to have slightly unpleasant breath.
Just had a guy a bit ago with horrible teeth and not sure I'd want to see him again, amongst other reasons.
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As long as breath is OK and they aren't biters I am fine, have encountered bad breath from full mouth of teeth. Also bumped into what I call biter teeth kissing as well as nipple and RO givers.
Broken teeth not an actual issue if breath and technique fine.
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It’s gross , if I’ve had any like that I say I don’t do kissing or just give em budgie kisses lol no full on , another reason I dislike doing old guys too .
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I've had clients with bad teeth and missing teeth, as long as the breath is fresh I dont mind
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All yous are on my list of lady martyrs.
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Yuk! This is my worse nightmare
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As long as their teeth are not rotten and their breath is fresh, I don't mind.
I did have a client a few years ago and all his teeth were black - it was horrific! Thankfully he didn't instigate kissing or I think I'd have chundered on his face :-X
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I make it clear on my profile kissing is at discretion.
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I have a lovely client that I now see weekly, our first ever booking he had showered and used mouthwash, we passionately kissed and it wasn’t until the mouthwash started to wear off that I notice a bad smell, although on the surface his teeth were nice it was obvious by the smell/taste he had a bad tooth somewhere in there, now every week it’s the same, starts off minty but then the smell/taste starts. I feel like I can’t say no to kissing as the first meet and the bookings after I’ve kissed lots but I do dread it. He’s also such a lovely lovely man I feel like I can’t bring it up as it’ll embarrass him and he might not book me again
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Bad breath, big long moustaches & beards are the worse I couldnt stand kissing hairy mouths!
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Northwestraven,
He knows full well there's a bad smell (although it might not necessarily be caused by his teeth, for some, it can be an issue with their stomach), but that's by the by, he knows a smell emanates from his mouth and mouthwash does not mask it. Personally, for me, this would be enough to decline to see someone, no matter how lovely they are. And really, if he was lovely, he wouldn't be kissing anyone given the bad smell.
I don't think mentioning it would be embarrassing him at all. He's an adult, one who is paying for sex, and a man who knows kissing him is not pleasant. He would get a better service if he dealt with the issue (and this would be the best way to raise the topic with him).
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It depends what you mean by bad. Uneven teeth don't bother me at all, in fact I find it cute. When I used to offer kissing it was at discretion. Cleanliness and freedom from bad smells were the main things. I don't offer kissing anymore but that's mainly down to the fact that I sometimes get cold sores.
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Dental care can be inaccessible and expensive so I don’t judge but I draw the line at unclean teeth: like persistent bad breath, bits of food or obvious rot, lol. I’ll never understand the aversion some men have about gargling mouthwash or chewing gum before we get down to it.
Interestingly, most of the bitey kissers I’ve had have had straight teeth, and I’ve done successful duos with a provider who had an overbite. No problems there. I reckon it’s more to do with technique than anything.
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I have a lovely client that I now see weekly, our first ever booking he had showered and used mouthwash, we passionately kissed and it wasn’t until the mouthwash started to wear off that I notice a bad smell, although on the surface his teeth were nice it was obvious by the smell/taste he had a bad tooth somewhere in there, now every week it’s the same, starts off minty but then the smell/taste starts. I feel like I can’t say no to kissing as the first meet and the bookings after I’ve kissed lots but I do dread it. He’s also such a lovely lovely man I feel like I can’t bring it up as it’ll embarrass him and he might not book me again
Hiya, hope you're feeling better after your bad client. I recently stopped offering DFK and it has been so liberating. I was nervous as heck (I put a post on in Bilge & Bile) but it's not been a problem. Someone offered the advice that it would be okay to use COVID19 as a reason to withdraw DFK and although I haven't stated that myself, it seems like a really valid reason to use if you want to go that way. Like you, I've had those experiences and they stay with you - so maybe you will find it easier to tweak your services for now, whilst you decide what you want. I know there's the "at discretion" thing but I can't imagine a way of ever telling a client that his breath stinks - my butt clenches just typing it! Do what works for you and don't worry about being a people pleaser x
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Dental care can be inaccessible and expensive
If someone can find the money to pay for sex, they can find the money to pay for a dental check-up, even a privately.
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If someone can find the money to pay for sex, they can find the money to pay for a dental check-up, even a privately.
Have to say I agree. I saw someone who didn't seem to be struggling financially but all his teeth were yellow, green or grey. I think he was an extremely heavy smoker, which was probably a factor, but even just 30 minutes with a hygienist once a year could have helped.
That said, smokiness aside, his breath wasn't anywhere near as bad as a client I saw a few times who more often than not had the most horrific halitosis. I had to drop him eventually as he wouldn't take my hints.
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If someone can find the money to pay for sex, they can find the money to pay for a dental check-up, even a privately.
Sure, a check-up is affordable if you can get one, but advanced dental (ie: orthodontics) are wildly expensive outside of the NHS, and NHS dentists have become progressively harder to find. My previous day job was related to dentistry. I met many, many patients from varying socioeconomic backgrounds who would have benefited enormously from braces, jaw surgery, etc, but were not approved for NHS care or were unable to afford the treatment. Sorry to derail, I’m very passionate about affordable dental care.
To get back on topic: The minty Corsodyl is REALLY good for nuking bad breath. I generally try and make a show of it, like I’ll say something daft like “Oh I love being squeaky clean/minty fresh” (cringe) and usually they follow. It’s more difficult on outcalls obviously. Tic Tacs are a decent tactic. It’s truly stupid that I have to treat grown men like children to stop them from having a hissy fit.
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Sure, a check-up is affordable if you can get one, but advanced dental (ie: orthodontics) are wildly expensive outside of the NHS, and NHS dentists have become progressively harder to find. My previous day job was related to dentistry. I met many, many patients from varying socioeconomic backgrounds who would have benefited enormously from braces, jaw surgery, etc, but were not approved for NHS care or were unable to afford the treatment. Sorry to derail, I’m very passionate about affordable dental care.
But you don't need any of that to have clean teeth, I think that's the point.
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But you don't need any of that to have clean teeth, I think that's the point.
Exactly.
Poor hygiene, be it stinky armpits, cheesy cocks or bad breath is poor hygiene. It's not acceptable and it shouldn't be acceptable. If more challenged clients about this and denied service, these men might actually clean up their act.
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Untreated dental problems can't be fixed by toothbrushing alone and whilst I'm happy for the posters who have never had difficulty accessing or paying for dental care, in some parts of the country they'd be living in cloud cuckoo land if they think this is easy. I have lots of missing teeth at the back of my mouth because of overcrowding, and another big gap nearer the front (from a tooth that could probably have been saved but the treatment was far too expensive to ever be available to me, so it was taken out) and there was nothing I could have done about any of it. The smug, judgemental crap is going to stop right now.
The worst bad breath I've ever encountered aside from heavy smoking was from tonsil stones - I don't have tonsils and nothing has ever made me gladder I didn't. It was truly foul, and the punter actually apologised when he came back (thankfully he'd had them sorted) :-X
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If someone can find the money to pay for sex, they can find the money to pay for a dental check-up, even a privately.
I suppose some can but it's not a priority to some men. Being in the industry on and off for a long period i seen some men that were very unhygienic and plenty of women that i knew would still give them DFK and OWO ( women that i knew personally) which i suppose if there is plenty who will and the odd few complain to them about there hygiene they will just think we are fussy cows. It's a vicious circle. I am not really bothered by missing teeth or not perfect teeth but if there really yellow with loads of plaque in a real mess i find it hard just looking at them let alone kissing them. It's the downside of the job unfortunately you vet them by there voice and manners on the phone.
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Amy, I respect you enormously but I am most certainly not being smug or judgemental.
I have had great difficult accessing affordable dental care which lead to me losing a tooth. Having had another tooth knocked out previously, this left me two missing teeth, one on either side of my mouth, both gaps were noticeable. As the bone was not packed, I could not get an implant either, something that would I could never have afforded either. However, I saved up to see someone privately and got a bridge on either side. Yes, it was eye-waveringly expensive but it was some of the best money I have ever spent on myself. I sacrificed a lot to be able to pay for this work, something that was entirely my choice. Just last year I broke a tooth and it needed to be crowned. I refused to see any clients during the month it took for treatment to be completed because I was somewhat paranoid my breath might not be the freshest/the feel of the temporary tooth would be an issue.
So yes, I do understand that for many, they will not do anything about missing or crooked teeth for a myriad of reasons. But that's all by the by anyway, it's about poor dental hygiene; it is not excusable and a valid reason to decline service.
You're quite right about tonsil stones too. Thankfully, I have no tonsils either!
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Untreated dental problems can't be fixed by toothbrushing alone and whilst I'm happy for the posters who have never had difficulty accessing or paying for dental care, in some parts of the country they'd be living in cloud cuckoo land if they think this is easy. I have lots of missing teeth at the back of my mouth because of overcrowding, and another big gap nearer the front (from a tooth that could probably have been saved but the treatment was far too expensive to ever be available to me, so it was taken out) and there was nothing I could have done about any of it. The smug, judgemental crap is going to stop right now.
The worst bad breath I've ever encountered aside from heavy smoking was from tonsil stones - I don't have tonsils and nothing has ever made me gladder I didn't. It was truly foul, and the punter actually apologised when he came back (thankfully he'd had them sorted) :-X
Hi Amy - I feel a bit bad because I made a throwaway comment (response) a while back about a scenario where someone was insisting on DFK being a MUST, and said something along the lines of them probably having 3 teeth etc. I know it must be terribly difficult for many people who can't access the dental care that they need and I hope you didn't feel I was being insensitive. It's much easier to make flippant comments in the moment than it is to reflect on what the background might be.
This is a really difficult one. I'm not sure if people do always know that they have bad breath, as has been suggested on this thread. Many of us wouldn't dream of telling someone that they have a dental hygiene issue (I couldn't because I'd hate to hurt someone's feelings). As an ex-smoker, I know your sense of smell goes out the window, so they genuinely won't know that they stink. It could be an infection, or as you mentioned, tonsils. It's definitely not simple and I agree that you can have missing teeth and have great hygiene.
Just makes me feel even better about withdrawing DFK to be honest - I think I reached my personal point of no more 'mouth hygeiene roulette' :-\ x
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I have imperfect teeth too and as a prossie it's always humbling to know that people spend money to be with me. For my part I very much welcome the man with eccentric teeth who has saved up to see a lady because he wants a nice experience. I have seen enough guys with pearly smiles to know that appearances aren't everything. Health is another matter entirely. Cosmetics are nice to have if you can afford it