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MissyNatalie

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Giving Blood
« on: 10 October 2011, 06:44:12 pm »
Although I do not yet meet some requirementss of giving blood (the weight) I hope that one day I shall. However, I scrolled down the NHS page some more and saw that you should never give blood if you have worked as a prostitute.

This really hurts as a close member of my family has recieved many blood donations in his short life and I would have hoped to give something back.

Does it mean prostitute that works unsafely on the street? Or any person who has been paid for sex? I never ever go unprotected and I get regular check-ups but if people aren't sure I wouldn't give blood as it isn't fair to the person at the other end.

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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #1 on: 10 October 2011, 07:29:42 pm »
As far as I'm aware it's a no go, no matter how safe you are.

I feel the same way and have donated blood as often as possible until I started working as an escort.

There is also a stipulation that if you are a man who has had protected sex with a man, or a woman who has had protected sex with a man who has had protected sex with a man ( ??? ) or have had sex with anyone from a country with a high HIV risk or who uses drugs that are injected you should not give blood.

I guess the line of thought is that while working we could unknowingly have contact with any and all of the above without knowing it. It would be very easy to lie and give blood anyway, but personally I wouldn't be comfortable with that just in case...

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« Reply #2 on: 10 October 2011, 08:06:20 pm »
Yep, it's permanent and they mean any selling of sex.

They've just lifted the equivalent ban on gay and bisexual men (it's now a year after last homosexual sex) but sex workers and IV drug users do not have the equivalent lobbying power.

It's prejudice.
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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #3 on: 10 October 2011, 08:19:16 pm »
I think it's rediculous that I could go out clubbing every night of the week and get screwed each night for nothing (potentially making my total sex partners in the 100s) and be able to give blood, yet if I get paid for a sexual act JUST ONCE in my life I can't give blood!


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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #4 on: 10 October 2011, 08:37:14 pm »
I think it's rediculous that I could go out clubbing every night of the week and get screwed each night for nothing (potentially making my total sex partners in the 100s) and be able to give blood, yet if I get paid for a sexual act JUST ONCE in my life I can't give blood!



I 100% agree. I am WAY more safer than any lass pissed up town tonight. Double standards I guess but I shan't be donating now.

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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #5 on: 10 October 2011, 08:37:25 pm »
Yep, as I said, prejudice.

I can - somewhat controversially - agree to a lifetime ban for gay and bisexual men plus IV drug users: it's where the next blood-borne nasty will show up. But the levels of HIV in non-IV drug using female sex workers is as low as you'd expect for a population with high levels of condom use and presumably that'll also apply for the next one too.
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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #6 on: 10 October 2011, 08:51:18 pm »
God this makes me mad.  I get check ups every 3 months I always have safe sex......and these ladies who screw around possibly unsafely and possibly never have check ups.....oh well thats ok then.

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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #7 on: 11 October 2011, 10:14:55 am »
It is pretty silly.
  The thing is I know I'm clean, and if I had a test that showed I was clean they would stil refuse wouldn't they?

On that basis, if I went ahead and lied and gave blood , would that be wrong and immoral?
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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #8 on: 11 October 2011, 03:07:53 pm »
I know they take a few vials of blood for testing as well as the bag of blood. If the tests show anything nasty they destroy (or send it for study if you've consented) the donated blood and would contact you so you could seek treatment.

They want as many people to donate blood as possible so I do think that since they are testing it all anyway, a lady who is paid for sex should have the opportunity to donate, but with HIV it can take up to 6 months before the tests will show anything and I'm not sure how long the blood is held for before being used.

Having said that, are there any non-biased studies showing how many girls are having as much sexual contact as us for free? And how many men they encounter in a year? I think it takes a lot of guts for an amateur to say "I've slept with 500 guys this year" don't think anyone irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex with that many guys would admit it the way a WG would. I can't blame them for wanted to use the info they have to protect people who are already vulnerable.

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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #9 on: 11 October 2011, 03:20:11 pm »
I know they take a few vials of blood for testing as well as the bag of blood. If the tests show anything nasty they destroy (or send it for study if you've consented) the donated blood and would contact you so you could seek treatment.

They want as many people to donate blood as possible so I do think that since they are testing it all anyway, a lady who is paid for sex should have the opportunity to donate, but with HIV it can take up to 6 months before the tests will show anything and I'm not sure how long the blood is held for before being used.

Having said that, are there any non-biased studies showing how many girls are having as much sexual contact as us for free? And how many men they encounter in a year? I think it takes a lot of guts for an amateur to say "I've slept with 500 guys this year" don't think anyone irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex with that many guys would admit it the way a WG would. I can't blame them for wanted to use the info they have to protect people who are already vulnerable.

I mean following on from that, at least escorts (the responsible ones anyway) wear protection when they sleep with random men.
 The sort of girls/women who go out to purposely get drunk and sleep around often don't wear protection, they are at risk just as much.
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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #10 on: 11 October 2011, 03:49:31 pm »
I know they take a few vials of blood for testing as well as the bag of blood. If the tests show anything nasty they destroy (or send it for study if you've consented) the donated blood and would contact you so you could seek treatment.

They want as many people to donate blood as possible so I do think that since they are testing it all anyway, a lady who is paid for sex should have the opportunity to donate, but with HIV it can take up to 6 months before the tests will show anything and I'm not sure how long the blood is held for before being used.

Having said that, are there any non-biased studies showing how many girls are having as much sexual contact as us for free? And how many men they encounter in a year? I think it takes a lot of guts for an amateur to say "I've slept with 500 guys this year" don't think anyone irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex with that many guys would admit it the way a WG would. I can't blame them for wanted to use the info they have to protect people who are already vulnerable.

I mean following on from that, at least escorts (the responsible ones anyway) wear protection when they sleep with random men.
 The sort of girls/women who go out to purposely get drunk and sleep around often don't wear protection, they are at risk just as much.

If that's the case they would either have to make the questions even more intrusive than they already are by asking about past partners and sex lives, which people would be put off by, or just accept they can't take blood from anyone.

It's easy to say that if she can do it, why can't I? But I think it's better to think that the organization is trying to minimize risks while still keeping the donor list as long as possible.

As good as condoms are they are not 100% effective against STIs, which is why most working girls go for check ups. I would feel bad enough if I caught something and could have passed it on to other clients and my partner without knowing it, but having someone out there who is already sick getting worse because my infected blood slipped past undetected.

If the Big Market Girls (local term for drunk girls who'll sleep with anything) want to give blood knowing the risk they cause that's between them and their god but personally I would rather think of  another way I can give back and leave it alone. I would guess they know what they are talking about in terms of risk and while most WGs are sensible with protection just search B4 on AW and you will see it's not always the case.

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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #11 on: 11 October 2011, 04:23:04 pm »
I wonder what happens if you didnt inform NHS  you were a prostitute  and gave blood, or even organ donations  , had no infections or diseases   what would they do then? ,i bet some people have done ....
I am unable to give blood as am on medicine for life, but can donate organs in the event of my death, there was nothing on the organ donation form that  eliminates prostitutes from donating organs.
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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #12 on: 11 October 2011, 04:54:15 pm »
People probably do, and nothing will happen. Some would say it's irresponsible because we are obviously considered higher risk..........

I've never given blood, am a bit wimpy like that but now the choice has been taken away anyway. Clients aren't supposed to donate up to 12 months after having paid for sex, I am guessing if someone usually gives blood with friends, colleagues etc that they aren't going to say "No thanks I just paid for a prossie so will sit out this time".

You can only be responsible for yourself and there is no clear answer here.

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Re: Giving Blood
« Reply #13 on: 11 October 2011, 05:15:05 pm »
God this makes me mad.  I get check ups every 3 months I always have safe sex......and these ladies who screw around possibly unsafely and possibly never have check ups.....oh well thats ok then.


Whatever the justifications and yes they have to draw the line somewhere I keep bumping up against the obvious double standard above.  And I hate double standards of anykind.
Call it what you will......unfairness, bias, prejudice its just one more thing that reinforces this idea that ALL WGs take huge risks, are more likely to be disease ridden etc etc.  I tire of it I really do