Author Topic: Clients just turning up...Is it just me? (Read 2246 times)

natasha · « **on:** 30 September 2011, 03:39:18 pm »

Recently I've has a run of clients turning up un-announced.
This is just so wrong on so many levels, I mean, what if I just turned up at their homes, enquiring would they like my services today! I'm single and don't have children but what if? What about my discretion and privacy?
Its happened 6 times since February, 5 of them in the last 6 weeks or so.
I think this is partly due to the local paper I advertised in stopped publishing adult services ads, and a lot of them weren't aware of my website which has only been in place since June, but even so, libraries keep back issues of newspapers, so with a tiny bit of effort, these guys could have found my phone number.
Taking this into account, I gave them a card, and asked them to call and book me properly, and explained I operate on a 'one strike' basis, so if they were to ever turn up like that again, I would not accept future bookings from them.
Then one of them did it again, knocking continuously on the door until I answered,

I told him I wasn't prepared to see him again, EVER.
Then...this morning, in the shower, continuous knocking. It was a client I have seen twice before, and the idiot didn't even recognise me with wet hair and a sour look on my face

, and started stuttering some nonsense about 'Does *made up name* still live here...
I'd be really interested how you other girls deal with this, I'm positive I don't give mixed signals, just give them a card, and never to do it again. Maybe I should just ban them the first time they do it? $:-\$

ParisB · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 September 2011, 05:08:08 pm »

i dont think that you are doing anything wrong yourself its just that when you advertise in the papers this is what will happen when you stop it will go on for a few month maybe a year or so untill they move on is it a house or a flat that you live in and can they just come straight to the front door or do they have to go through a main door ect

clients that come from the papers often have what i see as the massage parlour mentality ( i dont mean this in a bad way either ) just that its often they are used to being able to just turn up somewhere without having to make an appointment just like the massage parlours

If they have seen you before in the past then what they are doing is because they cant see your advert in the papers anymore so they are just turning up on the off chance that you are there and working and will see them they dont have your number to ring you so they are just turning up

Yes its wrong on there part but they are thinking with there little head not there big head your security discretion is the last thing on there mind

Website clients on the other hand are use to making appointments at certain times and not just turning up i dont think i can ever ever remember a client who has booked me from my website in the past just turning up on the off chance that im there they may call if they are nearby and see if im free but not just turn up

even when i work in my flat i dislike people just buzzing on the door, i tell regs to call me when they are outside the flat and not just to buzz up when they are making an appointment and i text this to them as well after i have confirmed the appointment

Exactly the same that is happening to you happend to me when i was working from home years ago and from add from the papers Even when i moved location and stopped advertising just like you they would still turn up and hang around banging on the door

i actually put a massive gate up at the end of my path so that no one can actually get to my front door complete with cctv so that i could see who was at the door
my house is a bit weird in that in front of the front door and the kitchen window about 6 foot away there is a raised up double driveway and wall of about 8 foot high as my house in a split level type
This means that no one can be seen in front of my door from the road or opposite so clients would happily bang away on my door as they knew they couldnt be seen by anyone. By putting the gate there it stopped them from getting to my actual front door so they could bang away all they liked but they wernt getting in
but i do know how you feel as you feel trapped in your home and you shouldnt feel like that at all

to be honest there is very little you can do apart from beef up the security in your house and dont anwser the door when they knock or move to a more secure location where they cant just get to your front door blocks of flat with intercoms are often better to live /work from in this line of business
You might find leaving a note on the door something along the lines of sorry not in leave parcel with no blah blah then they wont bother knocking

strawberry · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 September 2011, 05:12:23 pm »

I had a couple of clients loose my number, no longer or don't have access to the internet and just 'pop' around. The first one put his card through the door asking me to phone him, second did the same except he also rang the door bell and hung around. When I came to the door (I was unable to answer and he appeared to go away) he explained he couldn't access the internet at the moment. I said fair enough but please don't come to my door again, and certainly don't hang around ringing the bell! The second also asked if he could come it for a quickie, err I was stood there in my unsexiest, oldest towelling robe with fluffy socks on and about to go to bed early.

I suppose they just don't think, however I'm sure they wouldn't like it if a male friend or relative suddenly appeared, or even one of my burlier very confident clients. How did they even know I didn't have a boyfriend?

If it was happening repeatedly I'd just either blank repeat offenders, or make it clear they weren't to come back full stop and you'd call the police if they bothered you again. Sure the last one is extreme but if any member of the public comes to your door again and again you can have them removed.

natasha · « **Reply #3 on:** 30 September 2011, 05:46:13 pm »

Thanks Paris and Strawberry.

The gate idea's an interesting one,I ask clients to use the back door (oops!) so if I put a lock on my back gate it would stop them getting in, they probably wouldn't feel so comfortable knocking at the front door for ages.
And yes, you're right Paris, all these *on the off chance* guys only ever have half hour same day bookings, I noticed a big difference when changing over to internet advertising, they rarely book less than an hour.
And yes, I am single, but they don't know that...one of the times (on a sunday when I don't work) a client knocked on the back door, my best friend who is male answered, and this client asked him if I was available! Indiscrete or what:o (probably thought my friend was my pimp?!) I was steaming angry, as you can imagine!

ParisB · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 September 2011, 06:15:49 pm »

if you put a gate there make sure you also put a sliding bolt on it as well
my gate has a standard yale lock and key on it however you can if your tall enough you can put your hand over the top part of the gate and flick the catch ( my son dose this cos he is always losing his key im not tall enough to do this though ) and you can open the gate

But if you also put a bolt on it about 4- 6 inches lower than the lock on your side of the gate it means they wont be able to open it at all as the bolt prevents it from opening and they wont be able to reach it dont ever under estimate a client with a hard on

If you already have a gate there, then just put a bolt on it as i said just below where the key would go ( if you use a key) and if you want to you can put one at the bottom as well to be double sure that no one can get in - you can buy a good one from
B&Q for a under a tenner and if your handy with a screwdriver it wont take you long to fit it

it will also give you more security when your not working by putting the bolt on the gate when your not working you can lock it and it means no one can bother you

Plus if your going to continue to work from home you want to make it as secure as possible to avoid potential problems such as being broken into when your away on holiday ( lots of escorts advertise that they are away on there website which can be a big green light to any dodgy clients as the clients know the address and may often know personal stuff about them )

i stopped advertising that on my website after i got broke into 2 years at my home , and while i dont think it was a client as such, they definalty targeted my house going over my neigbours garden to get to my house and coming over the back fence and they knew that my dogs are kept in there own area of my garden at night so wouldnt bother them
my dogs which are two huge english bullmastiffs dogs did bugger all as well (who i christend dumb and dumber after this happend)

My working flat shares a small balcony with next door (ie it has a small railing in between them) but thats the only weak spot in my flat in terms of being broken into so i make sure the glass door on the balcony is always locked but i also lock and bolt the door in that room from the other side so that should they break in they can only get into the spare room and no further as the door is locked and bolted

Quote from: natasha on 30 September 2011, 05:46:13 pm

Thanks Paris and Strawberry.
The gate idea's an interesting one,I ask clients to use the back door (oops!) so if I put a lock on my back gate it would stop them getting in, they probably wouldn't feel so comfortable knocking at the front door for ages.
And yes, you're right Paris, all these *on the off chance* guys only ever have half hour same day bookings, I noticed a big difference when changing over to internet advertising, they rarely book less than an hour.
And yes, I am single, but they don't know that...one of the times (on a sunday when I don't work) a client knocked on the back door, my best friend who is male answered, and this client asked him if I was available! Indiscrete or what:o (probably thought my friend was my pimp?!) I was steaming angry, as you can imagine!

natasha · « **Reply #5 on:** 01 October 2011, 11:44:11 am »

Reading your post just made me realise how lax I am with security.
Because I live in a sleepy little Suffolk town after living in east London most my adult life, it feels really safe here, but doesn't pay to be complacent does it...
When I first began working, I considered getting cctv in the house, but decided against it, as another wg I know had kids continually kicking her front door every friday night, this went on for weeks on end and you could see day light through enormous cracks in the door.
She captured each time the door was vandalised on cctv, gave the evidence to the police, and they...did bugger all.

I am going to fit cameras to the front and back doors though, so I can see who's at the door.

ParisB · « **Reply #6 on:** 01 October 2011, 01:55:58 pm »

To be honest i dont think you can ever be to over the top with security for your house/working flat and for yoursef especially in this line of work - but in the same breath its rare that people think about it until they have a problem and its often to late as the shit has hit the fan

  when you get down to basics we are letting people we dont know, often using throwaway sim cards and disposable email address ect to contact us and we have very little knowledge of who they are into our homes /working flats ect the balance is very skewed in that they know a lot about us but we know very little about them

if they want to cause us problems its very easy for them to do so as they know where we live /work

cctv is pretty cheap now and if you read my other posts on it you can buy spy hole cameras that replace the spyhole in your front door ( or you can just drill a hole in the door and slide it in)for around 40- pounds and they are very discrete (you can get colour and black and white ones )

and wireless cctv is great if your not good with wires and scart leads ect you just fix the camera where you want it and you have a wireless reciever that you place next to tv and plug in to the back of the tv and pick a channel to recieve the images on these are a bit more expensive but easier to install

  you can also get cctv cameras that are in outside security lights (they just need to have infra red light/ or led light cant remember what its called, but its basically an ordinary outside security light but it has a hidden camera in it and your able to adjust the setting quite easily so that you can point it in whatevre direction you want see who is there these are cheap as well
most of this you can get from B&Q Argos and on line

   it may seem that im mega paranoid but in this business i dont think you can be to paranoid, having cctv has probably helped me out of several potential bad situation in the past such as when i took a booking for one guy but he was actually with another person god only knows what they had planned to do

My house and flat alarms are really good in that they both have a panic button thats on a key type fob which you can use seperatly to activate the alarm system - you just press it and the alarm goes off, plus i have the bell boxes both inside and outside my house and flat so the noise is incredible its probably a health and safety hazzard its that loud and would probably scare any would be attacker to death

also once its been activated it can systematically rings up to five ( mobiles ) to alert chosen people that i am requesting an emergency call back ect
Obviously you dont have to take it as far as me but anything that you do will definatly help you feel more secure

natasha · « **Reply #7 on:** 01 October 2011, 03:45:22 pm »

Thankyou!

You've given me a lot to think about. I read your post on security when I first joined saafe, love the spy hole camera, but my (rented) house has a fibreglass door with no existing spy hole and I don't think you're supposed to drill through fibreglass. Off to B&Q tomorrow for some bolts and locks

, so will ask somebody there.
The burglar alarm idea is a brilliant one, allowing you to alert people straight away if in danger.

ParisB · « **Reply #8 on:** 01 October 2011, 08:12:55 pm »

yeah definatly dont drill through fiberglass

Quote from: natasha on 01 October 2011, 03:45:22 pm

Thankyou!
You've given me a lot to think about. I read your post on security when I first joined saafe, love the spy hole camera, but my (rented) house has a fibreglass door with no existing spy hole and I don't think you're supposed to drill through fibreglass. Off to B&Q tomorrow for some bolts and locks , so will ask somebody there.
The burglar alarm idea is a brilliant one, allowing you to alert people straight away if in danger.

AngelEyes · « **Reply #9 on:** 01 October 2011, 08:24:14 pm »

Lol at the fibreglass! Yah, i have invidual panic alarms that I carry about in person. But I've never hear of such a system as the one you mention Paris. Separate key fobs tat goes to mobile phone for back up?

That is the best security system I've ever heard of. How on earth do you get one of those installed and how easy costly is it? Hmmmmmmmmm

ParisB · « **Reply #10 on:** 01 October 2011, 08:52:53 pm »

hi i have two seperate alarms one in my house and one in my working flat they are both the same though

the alarms is wireless and part of it is fitted into the phone line in the house /flat and its programmed so that if it goes off it will dial a number that you have chosen it can be landline or mobile and i think you can have up to five numbers and if one dosnt anwser it will dial the next one until someone anwsers it keeps calling all the numbers untill someone anwsers the phone

it has a pre recorded message that the person anwsering the phone will hear - Something like alarm at xxx has been activated please call xxxxxx the alarm has been activated ( you can put your own message as well )
they have to then press a number to aknowledge that you have accepted the call that way it wont carry on ringing other numbers

the fob will only work if you are within range of the wirless system /box so as long as you are in the house or just outside it will work fine if i press it it will set off the alarm in the house and then ring the chosen numbers to let them know that its been activated

this isnt the exact ones that i have but they are similar in what it dose ie ringing number - i think mine were 500 for both of them including fitting but this was around 3 years ago but on this site there are a lot of cheaper options as well
a decent alarm fitted and supplied shouldnt cost more than 200 quid if you in rented though you might want to get the portable alarms and wireless ones as you can take this with you when you move

http://www.easyalarms.co.uk/auto_dial_phone_burglar_alar m.asp

oh and if your putting a cctv camera outside make sure it weatherproof ( it will say so on the box) otherwise
1 it will break
2 the lens will steam up

you can fit them inside as well looking out through a window pane as well which sometimes can be better as no one can get to them and mess about with them

Quote from: Lorissa Charles on 01 October 2011, 08:24:14 pm

Lol at the fibreglass! Yah, i have invidual panic alarms that I carry about in person. But I've never hear of such a system as the one you mention Paris. Separate key fobs tat goes to mobile phone for back up?

That is the best security system I've ever heard of. How on earth do you get one of those installed and how easy costly is it? Hmmmmmmmmm

natasha · « **Reply #11 on:** 01 October 2011, 11:51:54 pm »

I couldn't get the link to work Paris, but do you mean something like this?

http://www.easyalarms.co.uk/alarm_systems-all_house_alarms.asp

So it's basically activating the installed burglar alarm, with the remote/fob, and that will then set off the alarm and alert your phone numbers of choice?

ParisB · « **Reply #12 on:** 02 October 2011, 12:38:10 am »

no that a different one to what i have but it can be used for the same purpose

the one i have is similar to the auto dialing alarm one but mine has a few extra bits such as smoke dectector ( it will ring me and let me know if my smoke alarms go but you get a different message ie your house is on fire and it can be armed disarmed by ringing in on my landline and putting in a code
im supposed to be able to log in on a pc as well and go to a website and do the same thing and watch the cctv as well but f.... know how that works i havnt figuered that out yet

my alarm is a just a regular alarm box with a code that you enter to arm /disarm and it has motion sensors in all the rooms and upstairs and door chimes ect (bit like a bloody corner shop everytime the door opens closes it goes ding dong )
i have alarm boxes inside the house and outside as it make a better noise if you have the alarm boxes inside the house and trust me it dose make a bloody noise

  but there is a small box ( autodialer) which plugs in to the phone line ( you can still use the phone line normally and for broadband as well) and it connects wirelessly with the alarm The autodialler box is what allows the phone numbers to be dialled once you have programed them in

   So once the alarm goes off the auto dialler will automatically dial your preset numbers untill someone anwsers and puts in the code requested ( which is just a number ie 1 2 3 or 4 to accept the call they then get the pre recorded message that you have left - ie help me im being murdered by a smurf or whatever ( there is a standard message as well)

depending on what you buy you may get the persoanl panic fobs or you can buy them they are just like a car key fob but this allow you to set of the alarm if your attacked and and it rings your chosen numbers as long as you are within range of the motion sensors
So as long as your in your house if you were being attacked you can press the panic fob and it will set of the alarm and ring your number

you can also have panic buttons (these litteraly stick on the wall where you want them to ) that you can also put anywhere in the house and they work in the same way as the portable panic fobs do ( i have these in my working flat in the bedroom hallway/stairs kitchen and lounge
So if i was being attacked i have the choice of using the fob if its nearby or pushing the panic fobs that are in each room but to be honest i would probably just scream and run out of the flat and forget about pushing the alarms

there are also ones that are single room alarms as well so will only work in one room/area if for example you kept bikes in a shed and wanted it alarmed these are cheap

you can also get alarms that dont need a landline and work of a normal pay as you go sim card if you dont have a landline

River · « **Reply #13 on:** 02 October 2011, 02:22:20 pm »

It's a risk if you offer incalls.
I've had it happen a few times, like three or four, in years.
Several in the early hours. I open my window and politely ask them to leave and phone only.
In the daytime I refuse too, as it would just encourage a drop-in service! I pass my number to them and ask them to book ahead.
I figure that in their own way they are trying to give me a big wad of notes,
so I'm sweet. But I also keep the boundaries there too.

I figure it's part of the aspect of doing incalls and something we have to manage,
as some occasional clients are like this.

LouLou37 · « **Reply #14 on:** 02 October 2011, 09:10:36 pm »

I had one Spanish guy climb the fence and knock loudly on the windows in broad daylight. He had been once just days before and was a nightmare client of the complete pushiest kind. "you should offer me a soft drink, not just water" "you should wear this, do hair like this, more make-up" "bet you really want to fuck me" all-porny and obsessed with and constantly pushing for anal which I don't offer. yuk. Anyhow when he came to the window I was outraged - I had a nice, normal, client in at the time. I went to the window and very firmly gestured at him and screamed and swore "FUCK OFF!!! FUCK RIGHT OFF! NOW!" (single glazing!). That did the trick.

But that is the only one in 2 years at that place x however I don't live there, so they could be doing it at night for all I know

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