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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: duskymaiden on 10 January 2012, 02:25:20 pm
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Hi folks,
I'm supposed to have an incall with a client at 5pm at a local hotel and told him to text me this morning to confirm as I would be with company untill lunchtime then to call around 2.30 pm or I can call him to speak properly and have not long switched on my pc and to which I received this email from last night:
'I don't have a cell phone, and don't do texts!
Would it be okay to simply email me the details tomorrow morning at your convenience? (Sometime around noon to 2:30). Saves me a phone call.
Till tomorrow.
Antoine'
He is staying with his elderly parents and I guess calling form their landline may prove tricky although he phoned on the
Fri morning and left a voicemail to say that he couldn't talk over the weekend and would await my reply by email in fact I'll give you the email that he first sent me which goes into too much detail that doesn't interest me and did initially make me a little wary:
I wrote last summer, but I never got beyond a preliminary contact. You probably don't remember, but I'm the fellow from Canada who comes to Nottingham periodically to help out with his elderly parents.
I'm back again now, until January 12.
I'm wondering whether we could meet next Tuesday, January 10 for one hour. I'm pretty flexible on the time of day. After dark with candles could be fun. Or early afternoon could be fun too. Whenever best accomodates you will be fine.
I'm choosing you because you seem to be a well grounded individual. I like your qualifications in massage and sports injuries. I like your interest in holistic health. You seem altogether a very cool individual.
Here's a little about me.
About 4 years ago my wife lost interest in sex. Alas. A not uncommon situation, however. I adjusted by finding service providers who seemed suitable. But given the pressure of meeting a new person, and a limited time together, I avoided any possibility of "ignition failure" by taking Viagra (obtained from the doctor). But while Viagra guarantees an erection, it can be problematic. Sensitivity is reduced. Orgasm can be difficult.
I never had a problem before. Never needed Viagra before. I only took it to deal with the pressure of short term liasons. They say "use it or lose it". And perhaps lack of regular use....
Anyway, I guess I'm asking a question. I'd like to see you without Viagra. Just me, my vulnerability, and my dick. See what happens.
In the worst case scenario, we could enjoy ourselves in other ways, oral pleasuring for example. AND I am a trained massage therapist myself. So, we could give and receive on that level too.
But I must admit I am somewhat trepidatious. It would be terrible not to take you, not to have you. Not to feel myself deep inside you. I do want that.
I hope all this isn't too boring. But I'd appreciate you letting me know what you think. Shall I show up standing to attention, guaranteed to take you? Or shall I show up with an uncertain future with the possibility of regret?
Very best regards,
Antoine
I don't know what to say to him as time is ticking on and I'm not going to book the hotel if he's a TW and I fell he does not seem to want to speak to me today for some reason. He has sent me a few emails yesterday as he didnt like the sound of coming to a hotel to I had to reassure him etc...Hmmmm
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Sounds like a fantastist.
If you have not spoken to him today on the phone just chalk him up as a TW and ignore future texts. Anyone can step outside to make a quick call, (obviously not sex chat!), so it would not draw attention just to confirm a meeting time and place.
I would have steered a wide berth after the first email.
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Lol Pandora, yeah I know. I can usually sniff put a TW but sometimes guys want to go into details in the initial email and turn out genuine...usually older guys...but yeah we need to speak to the clients beforehand don't we. Never not spoke to a client before a booking
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wow this is a familiar email. I had this, he does text but it costs him a fortune as he has not got an English Mobile. He also NEVER turns up and has booked via phone for myself and two other girls I know. He varies between his family is in Derby or Nottingham and he is visiting from Canada. Mark him as a timewaster and move on.
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I vote with Pandora. Timewaster... If I was feeling wildly optimistic might look for a cheap Hotel I could book on the day and keep it in mind but I wouldn't realistically be expecting to need it.
For me the phonecall is aren't so much to confirm as a chance to check that the Client can follow simple instructions and respect my wishes. I am happy to be flexible about setting a mutually convenient time for them to call, but completely inflexible about the fact that they HAVE to call me - if that makes sense?
R xx
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Its also not up to YOU to book the hotel. That is his job if he is wanting a booking with you. But like others have said ............ another fantasist bites the dust. :( ;D
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Wow thanks for the speedy replies/sound advice ladies...especially Danielle as you've confirmed he belongs in the TW tosspot bin...what a jerk! Btw he told me he was visiting from France!!! I think I knew that it was a non starter but felt I had to have the reassurance from here. I was booking the hotel as he wanted an incall Lady Lust and was supposed to have another booking after but he has cancelled so hey ho...
Once again thanks...drinks all round on me! xx
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Well what do you know! The gentleman in question has just called from a landline! Is he trying to convince me or his sorry self that he's the real deal? He said he was on his way...where from exactly I don't know seeing as the booking was for 5pm and he says he was staying in Nottingham... ??? ???
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Keep us posted Browneyes. Just the email itself with its vast amount of detail screams TW so if he turns up I will eat my hat! And as someone else said the confirmation call is more about seeing if they can follow your simple instructions and guage if they are the 'real deal' or not.
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Well Mellow my love you're digestion system can rest assured of a non hat eating day as I was not gong to entertain such a person by that time and had to put the phone down on him after protests of his innocence and yes I agree with what you guys are saying about a confirmatory call and erm...he soon gave me a call after I said i wouldn't be taking the booking without when he had insisted that he was unable to make that call in the first place. Bloody stupid jerk!
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Well Mellow my love you're digestion system can rest assured of a non hat eating day as I was not gong to entertain such a person by that time and had to put the phone down on him after protests of his innocence and yes I agree with what you guys are saying about a confirmatory call and erm...he soon gave me a call after I said i wouldn't be taking the booking without when he had insisted that he was unable to make that call in the first place. Bloody stupid jerk!
Phew thank god for that! Yes sounds like hes a serial TW.
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Did you check that the landline wasn't a payphone
Here's the problem with using email only;
Guy is running late can't let you know and after 15 minutes you get changed, go home, whatever.
Guy gets to place and can't remember your door number and can't contact you.
You have a problem/are running late/need to let him know the neighbour has just popped around you can't let him know.
Either, or both of you ended up in a mix up and timewasted. No fun and no pay, also with nothing to link you to him it's not very secure either.
Ways around this;
Ask to send you Amazon vouchers as a deposit (because he is going the be there ok?!)
Advise you will have to have your 'security' on stand by, and also be checking notes for counterfeits
Tell him that without a phone number, you cannot confirm his appointment either so he has to accept you might not be able to make it, or that you might give the appointment to someone who can use a telephone.
I think the above is all fair enough!
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Thats really interesting, I got a call from a landline too around that same sort of time you posted this, he was asking if I was in Nottingham too and even though I'm in Derby, I do take outcalls in Nottingham. Maybe he's contacted other people in this area and doing the rounds?
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Did you check that the landline wasn't a payphone
Here's the problem with using email only;
Guy is running late can't let you know and after 15 minutes you get changed, go home, whatever.
Guy gets to place and can't remember your door number and can't contact you.
You have a problem/are running late/need to let him know the neighbour has just popped around you can't let him know.
Either, or both of you ended up in a mix up and timewasted. No fun and no pay, also with nothing to link you to him it's not very secure either.
Ways around this;
Ask to send you Amazon vouchers as a deposit (because he is going the be there ok?!)
Advise you will have to have your 'security' on stand by, and also be checking notes for counterfeits
Tell him that without a phone number, you cannot confirm his appointment either so he has to accept you might not be able to make it, or that you might give the appointment to someone who can use a telephone.
I think the above is all fair enough!
All very good points should have known from the start where this was heading
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Thats really interesting, I got a call from a landline too around that same sort of time you posted this, he was asking if I was in Nottingham too and even though I'm in Derby, I do take outcalls in Nottingham. Maybe he's contacted other people in this area and doing the rounds?
Possibly Lexie could you PM me the number please, maybe we need to expose the creep
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'Long message.....................'
Antoine
= TLDR = Fantasist.
10 year old kids have mobiles.
At a push he could buy a mobile for ?10, exclusively for this booking.
It really is no big deal
{but he is lying, he does have a mobile, can easily get another, or even just a SIM card}
Boundary pushing.
DO NOT BELIEVE HIS LIES
Even if true, if he's like this trying to get an appointment
by disregarding your own protocol's,
What would he be like in a session?
But that would not happen, as he would be a no show anyway!
Edit.
I just read the other posts.
Yep, as I thought.
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I don't believe that he doesn't have a mobile phone. What a load of rubbish!
Clearly a timewaster... ::)
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Well Jodie and Jenna you are both right and I knew he'd have a mobile phone really I can't understand why I let him waste my time. Ah well
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If he can't won't call or text you to confirm then persoanlly I wouldn't take the booking its all about boundaries and rules and he's not sticking to them I find client that do this. Before you have met are often a pain in the ass
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I don't take bookings unless they call now. I used to, but there are too many timewasters out there... :-\
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I'm happy to arrange appointments by text or email but ALWAYS insist we speak on the phone before meeting. I tell them it's part of my security screening (and it is, the sixth sense part)
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Too many timewasters, chancers and piss takers galore girls..I so agree...and as you well know more than when I started. As mentioned before I didn't bother with this idiot. I'm sure he will target other girls. 'Hasn't got a mobile phone...puuurleeease!!!' Liar liar your pants are on fire!