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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: India597 on 26 November 2013, 08:51:15 am
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Hi,
As i am new to this just checking i did the right thing. A guy phoned earlier to make appointment for tomorrow, at the end of the conversation he said is it ok to use poppers, i said what are they, and he said a drug you can buy in Ann Summers. I said no sorry. He said he would still like the booking.
Also i asked him if he said seen my website he said naaahhh i dont need to just seen your ad online (like he wasnt intrested to know about what i offer etc).
I googled Poppers as i had never heard of them. My question is, was i right to say no? and what if he sniffs it before he comes in my house and then gets ill? I'm wondering if i should cancel booking all together? I cant cope with vomit in my house! >:(
Sorry if i sound naeive,
India
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say no I watched a program yesterday it has a link to serious illness and is dangerous for you health wont post the link here but people feel free to inbox be for link.. or google it
It pointed out at the height of the aids epidemic gay men were using this on a frequent regular basis and it was found to cause serious health problems you may not be taking it yourself (well hope your not) but the long term health problems it can cause I would avoid encouraging people to use it..
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No i'v never used it, didnt even know what it was. Should i cancel booking? Thankyou for your reply.
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well you could tell the client that you prefer him not to use it ....poppers is poison not something you want spilled it stinks and really its a bit like GHB but lasts for a few seconds I would not advise you to use it chic it had some horrible side effects and can cause health issues.I place poppers under the same list as drugs its a no no but its your choice if you see him..try contacting him and saying your not comfortable with him using it..see what he says
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It's a solvent, some people feel sexy after inhaling it, the effects last a couple of minutes and you definitely don't want it spilled.
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A search here will tell you more (and why you probably don't want to try them yourself) but you should be fine with this one - poppers are taken for a rush NOW, rather than ahead of time, because it's a very short-lived effect.
If you're going to not see him, do it on the basis of..
naaahhh i dont need to just seen your ad online (like he wasnt intrested to know about what i offer etc).
.. this if you think there are going to be issues as a result.
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I am so glad this topic came up. I had client who said "I am just gonna take some poppers" and I guess he could tell by my face I was clueless and responded "Have you never tried them?". Of course, my answer was NO, and he explained to me that it "heightens the sensation" or something to that effect - but I started to freak out a little (inside) when I saw him inhale this little bottle. I am not experience when it comes to drugs so I wasn't sure if he was going to turn funny.
Luckily all was alright in the end but for me I was very uncomfortable
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They can make your heart rate go crazily high, even if you're just in the same room as an open bottle. I refuse to see clients on non prescription drugs, and even make a point of specifying poppers on my profile. Yes some inhalants are sold in Ann summers, but you'd probably find that most clients get them on the black market as the shop bought ones aren't very strong. The ones they're likely to have bought will probably not be regulated, so if you did have an adverse reaction then it'd make treating you complicated, plus you don't want to be in a situation where you'd require medical help on an escort booking anyway!
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Poppers are still quite popular with gay men. A lot of my clients use them. Never seen anyone get anything worse than a headache from them but it does sometimes make them a bit grabby and over excited and gives them a short attention span. I've tried them and the effect is a rush and does heighten sensation but the sudden dizzy feeling is brain cells dying so not recommended.
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I dont allow clients to use them as they give me a raging headache, just the smell of it on their nose sets me off. If they spill it on you it can burn the skin.
I also find it causes them to get an instant floppy cock when they sniff it. So it does make my job harder as i had found the moment they feel its climax time they reach for the poppers.
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Back in my hedonistic days I used to take it to give an extra ooomph to my extra curricular activities and I remember them being passed round school. Quite frankly I find them to be over rated it just gives you a head rush like when you stand up too quickly. Personally I would say that I would allow the person to use them in their own home but refrain from using myself. If I was in an incall I would say no. I have once had this spilt down my dress at a party and I nearly passed out before I got to the bedroom to put on some spare clothes!
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Thankyou everyone for your answers. I have cancelled the booking, i dont feel right about it with him suggesting the poppers. Maybe he takes other stuff. I have never taken any drugs and am clueless about them, and if they stink as mentioned, i dont want my landlord to find out. Better safe than sorry :)
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Poppers are pretty harmless - it's not like taking coke or heroin (IMO) the worse that will happen is that you will get a headache from the smell of them and your clients lips will go a bit blue It can cause an increase in heart rate and they smell horrible
I have a lot of clients that like to use them so I alwa have half a dozen or so bottles in my flat and I always take some on tour with me
I don't like them and wouldnt use them personally but for a hundred and thirty quid an hour I can put up with the smell
I alway put it on tissue and make them inhale it that way as its more if a rush its a bit of a stop start process though in most appointments
But If its any consultation I'felt the same as you when a client first whipped them out of his bag
F
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The biggest health issue is the use with erection drugs: both lower blood pressure, and the combination can be fatal.
Supply is also illegal - one of the royal colleges (pharmacists?) successfully had one shop prosecuted - and if something does go wrong and a client dies / is burnt / passes out and hits their head on something, you really don't want to be the person who supplied them.
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The biggest health issue is the use with erection drugs: both lower blood pressure, and the combination can be fatal.
Supply is also illegal - one of the royal colleges (pharmacists?) successfully had one shop prosecuted - and if something does go wrong and a client dies / is burnt / passes out and hits their head on something, you really don't want to be the person who supplied them.
I think they sell them /advertise them now as room odourisers ( i don't buy them btw ) i just have loads of them floating around because clients often leave them behind. One client that i see twice a week generally when I'm in Bristol brings 1 -2 bottle of the stuff and leave its behind so i seem to have a massive collection of Old English and other stuff
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Thankyou guys your advice is really appreciated :D
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I will allow my clients to use poppers BUT?
I control the bottle so they don't take too much, you can tell when they are heading that way as their lips start to get little purple tinged around the edges, if they continue they will turn blue and start talking gibberish, continue further and they will faint from lack of oxygen to the brain. So I control them, I hold the bottle while they sniff them.
I no longer allow guys to pour a little onto a tissue to sniff when they feel like it, the above tends not to happen when on a tissue but putting it onto a tissue puts it onto a slow release into the air which means i can then smell it after several minutes even with the patio door to my bedroom open, I got slightly lightheaded and won't be making that mistake again.
I think the problems come when you allow the guy to lay there with the bottle in their hand, they just keep on sniffing, if you control it then the issues I described in the first part won't arise, if they don't like it then thats tough, its my rules or no poppers.
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p.s There is no right or wrong, if you don't want someone sniffing them then just say no, its up to you x
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I tried poppers once when i was a teenager, i'm not sure why anyone uses them because they make you feel horrible. Hot & heavy head , people go red in the face and feel really dizzy. It's not a desirable high :S and lasts like 2 minutes. They are not room deodraizers it's just how they make them legal we've all heard many names "Plant food" "fish food" "bath salts". But sexually they can help to stimulate & enlarge the ass for anal so i guess that's why, i'm not put off by bookings with people who want to use it i simply don't understand why they want to use it. But yes if you are uncomfortable with such thing then hey, don't! :)
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I have the very rare regular who may want to bring them and use them but it's something I would not encourage as a general rule although I guess hypocritcally I do make the odd exception (for a regular only).
I can't stand them as they give me a headache and having seen someone's lips go blue from it, well I shudder to think what it is doing to the body.
People sometimes enquire about them and ask if I would supply them and I say, what do you think I am!!!!
I also get annoyed with those that assume it's ok to take drugs and seem to think it's a perfectly acceptable practice for most of us. I threw someone out once who pulled out a bag of cocaine.
Saying that though, those that use poppers are not necessarily drug users so I shouldn't generalise but would always steer away from anything like that.
For the few that want to use them, I don't care about losing that business as most of my clients don't.
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I know this is a bit off topic,but what happens if you drink poppers?
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I know this is a bit off topic,but what happens if you drink poppers?
You die.
All information on poppers can be found here http://www. talktofrank.com/drug/poppers
[Link edited to make non-clickable]
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oh dear lol,won't be trying that then-thanks for the link :)
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Just had a client who took out a bottle of poppers half way through sex and started inhaling it. I didn't have a clue what he was doing and instantly felt uncomfortable and very concerned. I was also livid that he assume I would be ok with this.
The smell was awful and every time he tried to kiss me I could smell it on him. I could also feel his heart absolutely racing and he instantly lost his hard on.
I think he could tell that I wasn't happy and we ended the booking ten mins early
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I do not indulge in them, if a client asks to use them I say no, if they choose to use them without asking I would ask them to leave.
Sarah x x x
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I personally would say do the booking. If he takes the poppers before he comes up to see you the effects would wear off, the buzz lasts literally seconds, and if he's used them before he'd be aware of this. There's no way he can do it when you are in the room without you knowing about it, because you'd see the bottle and you'd smell it. So if he's ok with not using poppers then why not.
A lot of my clients use poppers, I have no issues with this, however, as with happyslapper I control the bottle. And I also provide the bottle, just incase the one they have is snide.
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It is a muscle relaxant also, so good for anal sex, I hate the smell but some of my clients usedit for strap on sessions, I did have one guy who sniffed too much and thought I was gonna have to call an ambulance! I absolutely shit myself, he was near on fitting on the bed,
I now don't anyone take it at my place
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Just had a client who took out a bottle of poppers half way through sex and started inhaling it. I didn't have a clue what he was doing and instantly felt uncomfortable and very concerned. I was also livid that he assume I would be ok with this.
The smell was awful and every time he tried to kiss me I could smell it on him. I could also feel his heart absolutely racing and he instantly lost his hard on.
I think he could tell that I wasn't happy and we ended the booking ten mins early
Oh Sammy that is awful for you.
How bloody rude of him to not even ask you if it was ok but sadly some clients seem to think that we are all happy with doing anything and everything that anyone else does!
Stupid man..........
As I said in one of my earlier posts, I wouldn't allow anyone to bring them along........ saw someone's lips go blue once on them and that was enough for me to say no thanks......... also the smell can give you a horrid heachache.........
Hope you are ok
Love
Jenny x
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I have no problem when clients bring for their own use just as longs I get none of the smell going near. Once it happened so stopped everything until the coast cleared that horrid smell. They use poppers as stay hard longer without cumming.
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I can't stand poppers and don't want them near me.
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I like a client to bring a nice bottle of wine... and that's it.
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Agree a nice bottle is fine as long as they leave a bit for me :P but I certainly wouldn't allow poppers to be used.
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And I also provide the bottle, just incase the one they have is snide.
The tiny problem with that is that if the shit does hit the fan because something goes wrong, you'll be seen as supplying them. You probably don't want to be in that position.
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And I also provide the bottle, just incase the one they have is snide.
The tiny problem with that is that if the shit does hit the fan because something goes wrong, you'll be seen as supplying them. You probably don't want to be in that position.
They are 100% legal
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I'm happy for clients to use them. I won't touch them when I'm working.
Don't let him use them if he takes Viagra. He could die.
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They are 100% legal
See reply #13:
The biggest health issue is the use with erection drugs: both lower blood pressure, and the combination can be fatal.
Supply is also illegal - one of the royal colleges (pharmacists?) successfully had one shop prosecuted - and if something does go wrong and a client dies / is burnt / passes out and hits their head on something, you really don't want to be the person who supplied them.
They're not covered by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, but the Medicines Act 1968, which allows only licensed outlets, such as chemists, to supply them. This is the reason for the ludicrous labelling as 'room odoriser' or similar - it's an attempt to pretend that they're not what they are.
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For me it is not a question of if they are legal or not, I will not allow guys to bring alcohol to drink.
I do not like the smell of poppers, they give me a headache. I also do not want the room smelling of them for the next guy that walks in and as guys can react in different ways when taking any kind of enhancement I do not want a guy off his head, in whatever form, in the room with me.
Sarah x x x
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They are 100% legal
See reply #13:
The biggest health issue is the use with erection drugs: both lower blood pressure, and the combination can be fatal.
Supply is also illegal - one of the royal colleges (pharmacists?) successfully had one shop prosecuted - and if something does go wrong and a client dies / is burnt / passes out and hits their head on something, you really don't want to be the person who supplied them.
They're not covered by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, but the Medicines Act 1968, which allows only licensed outlets, such as chemists, to supply them. This is the reason for the ludicrous labelling as 'room odoriser' or similar - it's an attempt to pretend that they're not what they are.
God I didn't realise! You can get them in ann summers I think, I am scared anyway now after that clients funny turn, x
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corrrrrr, i havnt seen someone do poppers in years!! i used to do them ALOT when i was about 14/15, was pretty hooked on the rush, it was when i started to get blisters under my nostrils (due to major overuse btw, nothing wrong with the occassional treat, all in moderation ;) ) i then decided to knock them on the head.
poppers are pretty harmless imo, especially when compared to other drugs. i havnt had a client turn up with a bottle wanting to do it, but i cant imagine it does them any good downstairs :P hahaa, so i would probably politely say id rather they didnt, as a client who loses his hard on is a pain in the ass for me, as it bothers me when i cant fulfil my role and give them a happy ending! lmao
so basically, dont freak out, poppers arent that bad, just imo, not good if they go floppy. hope this helps! xox
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[/quote]I will not allow guys to bring alcohol to drink.
Sarah x x x
I don't mind a guy turning up with a (decent) bottle of wine if they've discussed it up front to check it is OK but I do get more than a bit put out if they don't ask if it is OK in advance of the booking and just turn up armed with a bottle. To assume it is OK is rather presumptive and rude imo.
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I have a collection of really nice red wines that I've been brought by clients.
Except red wine gives me a stinking headache so I can't touch the stuff ::)
I've had clients turn up who want anal play and they've brought poppers. It doesn't bother me per se, but I don't really care for the assumption that I'll be okay with it. I can count on one hand how many men I've met who used them though. Tried them once myself outside of work mode (when I was a lot younger) and it just brought on a filthy migraine. Wasn't worth the brief couple of minutes of 'high', never touched them again afterward. I get they are used to relax the area, and maybe I just don't get it as I'm not into anything anal, but I can't see how they would do anything that lube couldn't.
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I have a collection of really nice red wines that I've been brought by clients.
Don't your clients expect you to open the bottle they bring? I haven't thought of creating my own celler from the bottles clients bring with them from time to time but not sure they would appreciate id I didn't open the bottle. The nice ones normally ask what wine I like. Sorry if this is getting a bit off topic.
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I have a collection of really nice red wines that I've been brought by clients.
Don't your clients expect you to open the bottle they bring? I haven't thought of creating my own celler from the bottles clients bring with them from time to time but not sure they would appreciate id I didn't open the bottle. The nice ones normally ask what wine I like. Sorry if this is getting a bit off topic.
Nope, brought as gifts, unless they want to start drinking at noon ;D You also have to drive to get to me, so if they want to consume alcohol to then go drive off afterward, there's a perfectly good pub down the road... away from me. Also if I go on outcalls and they have brought me wine, its not being drunk by me as I drive myself to outcalls. They can drink if they so wish, however I avoid drinking alcohol like the plague with clients - I rarely drink these days and they know its not on offer. In April I've been gifted with wine, cake and an Easter egg - I don't think they like my diet lol
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A few guys have died + heart attacks, combining poppers and drugs ( viagra, anti high blood pressure drugs e.t.c) So it could be risky in the sense it could make your life very complicated if you don't know if they have combined them.
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Do ant of you get requests from guys wanting to use poppers.
I even had a email requesting it last night.
I do find it off putting, but if it makes them cum quicker it is worth it and have bought a few bottels of record cleaner recently for them.
I hate it when they try and force it up my nose as it gives me a bloody soar head x >:(
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I have it for my clients, it doesn't make them cum quicker, I makes them lose their hardon and relaxes their muscles for strapon or anal, I have had a couple of guys take too much and get quite unwell so be careful x
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It is a pain to use but it does arouse my clients, and if it makes them happy and they come back again that's all that matters to me x :)
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I have a reg who uses them when it's an outcall to his place. It makes him climax faster than when he does without it during incalls. He says it makes the orgasm more intense. As we become more familiar, he seems not to need it as much.
It's a strong smell, not particularly unpleasant so I don't mind if he uses them. I wouldnt myself nor would I provide them
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I have provided them as it gets me extra business
It is record cleaner and stinks does fuck all for me but if the client is happy so am I x :)
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Yes, specially the dom clients
but vanilla too, got a mixed selection.
Usually apply it with applicators
so I can control/stop the amount.
But never allow them to apply it
to me.
Plus I ask if they have eplilepsy or
heart or respiratory condition.
As there is a tiny risk of having
a dead body to dispose of.
I also watch them carefully,
had a client who asked for them
and I turned round and he was
about to drink the bottle.
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Do ant of you get requests from guys wanting to use poppers.
I even had a email requesting it last night.
I do find it off putting, but if it makes them cum quicker it is worth it and have bought a few bottels of record cleaner recently for them.
I hate it when they try and force it up my nose as it gives me a bloody soar head x >:(
Yes, specially the dom clients.
I have a mixed selection.
Usually apply it with applicators
so I can control/stop the amount.
But never allow them to apply it
to me.
I also watch them carefully,
had a client who asked for them
and I turned round and he was
about to drink the bottle.
so ch them carefully,
had a client who asked for them
and I turned round and he was
about to drink the bottle.
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Thanks for the warning c p not experienced that, but have noticed how carried away they can get whilst using them x :)
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Bi guy x...
You're absolutely right.
They get carried away because
the more they use, the less
effective it becomes.
So....they want more.
So I'm quite strict and
give them regular breaks
so they don't 'overdose'.
oh if they've taken a blue pill
I'd never give them poppers
as they both lower the blood
pressure..possible fainting,
stroke, heart attack etc
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In the BDSM dungeon I work at,I have had only 3 poppers requested in a year. But at my own incall place I think it is 1 out of every 10 clients who ask.
I don't have them but they can bring their own. If it is a deal breaker than they can walk on.
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Yes I get requests but I don't allow the use of them or provide them.I think the smell is vile and I don't think it adds anything to the booking other than a stinky room.
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The smell is disgusting but by providing clients with poppers it gives me more business.
There are 2 things I do make sure the bottle isn't filled to the top or id it's strong I dilute it, as it can damage the clients blood pressure so I do my best to make sure it's not when there with me x :)
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Do a search for 'poppers' and you will find a variety of experiences with them.
If someone did have a bad reaction to them, I wouldn't want to be in the position of having supplied them. You know it's not a 'record cleaner' or 'room odoriser'.
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I often get asked. I think I have some somewhere but the bottle is very old. I don't like it myself, gives me a pounding headache and affects my bp too much. I won't go out of my way to buy any, I just still have the old bottle as someone I once used to see left it behind. Its supposed to be good for relaxing the anal muscles, popular with gay and bi men and some straight guys just get a buzz out of it also. Makes them feel hornier. I'm sure its a guy thing basically. Why don't women have something that gets us buzzed and we don't have a female equivalent to a blue pill either. That would be amazing!
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- Sorry-Can never figure out how to 'part-quote'..
You CAN get female Viagara. Available via online prescription from a famous pharmacy. I don't take it myself as it makes me chat 19 to the dozen about utter rubbish and the reason I have been booked becomes an afterthought ;D
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I won't see blokes on poppers.I don't think it makes them cum quicker I think it makes them more demanding and silly and the smell of poppers make me retch.
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Poppers....grrrrrr >:(
Don't know in the escort world but as a DOMME I hate them!
Why should they feel more relaxed within my presence? They come for an experience and the adrenaline Rush from that should be surfice!
Understand whilst using strap on yes it relaxes their muscles and easier for them....hell no ! Pain is why they come to me!
If I ever get asked I quickly say NOPE not allowed, had a few guys say well if I can't use them I won't see you...ok jog on then!
But any drug legal or illegal shouldn't be allowed in a session as you never know how they would react, your natural endorphins should be enough to enjoy any session!
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Poppers....grrrrrr >:(
Don't know in the escort world but as a DOMME I hate them!
Why should they feel more relaxed within my presence? They come for an experience and the adrenaline Rush from that should be surfice!
Understand whilst using strap on yes it relaxes their muscles and easier for them....hell no ! Pain is why they come to me!
If I ever get asked I quickly say NOPE not allowed, had a few guys say well if I can't use them I won't see you...ok jog on then!
But any drug legal or illegal shouldn't be allowed in a session as you never know how they would react, your natural endorphins should be enough to enjoy any session!
I get what you mean, although people don't always drink/take drugs just for feel good factor
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I will tolerate them sometimes. Basically, they stink up my room and I don't like that. So I'll tell someone it's OK in the evening (when they're likely to be my last booking) and I won't allow them on tour at all as few hotel rooms have great ventilation and I tend to try and be as busy as possible when I'm on tour.
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I had a client ask me for poppers during a booking on Friday..... seriously?!!!! Not only do they stink and are extremely dangerous but I have known people to become unable to control their bladder and actually just piss everywhere.
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Poppers can go 'off' and 'cheesy' with exposure to air.
They can become degraded, stale, that's why some stink.
They should be destroyed as not at their best.
I've never experienced or heard of incontinence with poppers and
worked with poppers for years with fellow doms in dungeons
who use them every day.
Do you think the poppers was the genuine cause? ???
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I have no idea but I have a few friends who take them in a recreational manner and they end up with this issue of pissing everywhere. One time I was so unfortunate to be kipping next to one of them after a party a few years back. Piss bed. Yuk.
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I've got a suspission that the friends lack of bladder control was down to being pissed/out of it, rather than poppers.
Never had bladder/bowel issues with them and I've been using them since the 80's.
But ladies, our rules apply, and if you dont like poppers ore are unsure about them and feel uncomfortable, then just say no..........I feel a song coming on :D
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... and one of the junior ministers at the Home Office has said that they will be covered by the proposed ban on 'legal highs'*
* From industries that don't pay piles of money for political activity, anyway - alcohol will be exempted, for example...