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I have decided that the best way to curtail last minute cancellations from clients who have pre-booked is to go ahead and charge clients more for booking me at the last minute when I'm touring from home. But on the flipside, giving lower rates (but not cheap) to those who book in advance AND pay a deposit of say, 25%.

I had a client do a very silly thing today. My flight landed in his city, but I had a choice of either renting a vehicle to my final destination or staying here for 1 day to make extra money. I notified him of this 3 days prior. We met once before in my home city. I even check to confirm with him this morning and told him if he doesn't feel he can make it, please let me know else I can continue on to my destination rather than get a room. He says yes, let's meet at 8 pm. I actually had him and 1 other client who inquired, so felt I had some fallback. This guy texts me the minute after I send him my hotel info and gives some bozo excuse about his mother calling saying his grandmother is being rushed to the hospital. Mind you, this is some 9 hours PRIOR to our appointment. As if he's so concerned about his ailing grandmother's current condition that he has to cancel the appointment. The madam is probably already deceased for all I know. Lying sack of shit...

So just wondering ladies, for the rest of my career I feel I need to charge all out of town clients exorbitant amount higher for last minute appointments to FORCE them to book ahead and pay a deposit. Because I cannot afford to be flaked on when I'm spending my money to go on these trips. It happens on every single trip and I'm just so tired of it. I can't take it anymore, we have to start getting clients to start pre-paying for cheaper rates just like the rental car companies are doing.

An example is, if I normally charge $200/hr for a pre-booked appt, I'll also ask for 25% deposit which is $50 included. But a Last minute appointment will be $250/hr. How does that sound? I'm actually mentioned this today to 2 clients already and will not be continuing on to my next destination without putting this plan into play. This year alone, I've requested and received more deposits than previous years. But now I feel I have to ask for them regardless and everytime or have them risk paying $50-100 more for the appointment. Or perhaps I could just not see ANY clients out of town unless they pay a deposit. The ones who pay will see me, the ones who don't probably won't see me anyway.
« Last Edit: 12 November 2012, 06:12:04 am by Blaine »

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Re: Charging clients less who pay deposits: Will this work long term?
« Reply #1 on: 12 November 2012, 05:04:32 pm »
I don't think this will work Blaine. Or at least wouldn't work in the UK....
It just seems too complicated for a simple horny guy to understand that he needs to pay some deposits etc.
Men like booking escorts at last minute, because they don't get horny in advance. But if you charge more than normal, just because they want a last minute appointment, they are likely to get put off and go elsewhere.
And the same with advance bookings- there are guys who like to plan things weeks, or even months in advance, and those will surely be happy with your discount when they 'pre book', but most men who see escorts, will find making an appointment with you too 'complicated'.
That's just my opinion, and you can always give it a try anyway, and see how things pan out?

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« Reply #2 on: 12 November 2012, 05:23:52 pm »
Yep, particularly on the gay scene, where 'want sex now!!!' is the driving force behind the majority of appointments.
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Re: Charging clients less who pay deposits: Will this work long term?
« Reply #3 on: 14 November 2012, 03:31:21 am »
Men like booking escorts at last minute, because they don't get horny in advance. But if you charge more than normal, just because they want a last minute appointment, they are likely to get put off and go elsewhere.

But keep in mind I'm not referring to bookings locally, I'm referring to bookings out when I'm on tour...mainly men who message me prior to my arrival asking to see me when I'm there.

I mentioned it to 2 clients prior to meeting them, and although they didn't pay a deposit (I waived it due to me just coming up with the idea) and they still showed up. It's almost used by me as a form of guarantee.

Unfortunently, a client whom booked me from bigdoggie the review site, and has been trying to see me in his city for over 2 years now and wanted to book 3 hours with me has FLAKED tonight. I am in total disbelief. We've been communicating thru email for nearly a month and he does this to me.

I know he is playing games because when I called him earlier to confirm what hotel I was, he picked up and answered the phone with a brief hello and then proceeded to hangup! I called 4 times already since this afternoon but no answer. I even googled his phone number and email address and found out he's with the board of directors in his county and it lists his home address!

I just can't believe this is happening right now after all these miles. Something told me to ask him for a deposit 2 weeks ago.

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« Reply #4 on: 14 November 2012, 11:45:26 am »
how do clients actualy pay a deposit if they havnt even arrived ? I cant see how it works, am in the uk, i only see clients who turn up, ive no way of charging someone a deposit ahead of their booking. ???

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« Reply #5 on: 14 November 2012, 12:20:44 pm »
A variety of means exist: putting money onto a payment card, Amazon vouchers, topping up a mobile phone balance etc.

Just don't do it via PayPal or similar - if they discover the money is related to prostitution, you'll lose it (and possibly a chunk of any balance when they close your account).
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Re: Charging clients less who pay deposits: Will this work long term?
« Reply #6 on: 17 November 2012, 11:01:49 pm »
A variety of means exist: putting money onto a payment card, Amazon vouchers, topping up a mobile phone balance etc.

Just don't do it via PayPal or similar - if they discover the money is related to prostitution, you'll lose it (and possibly a chunk of any balance when they close your account).

Yes, and I use paypal and and the payment card...I'm not concerned with paypal TOO much, because I usually immediately withdraw that money out and have it sent to my bank. I do not leave any money lying around in paypal.

So far, the deposit thing was welcomed with open arms by a client who has been trying to meet me off a message board. I was sent it the day prior to visiting him in Las Vegas. I also discussed a little about it as well. Now, whether this will be something permanent or not...may be some tweaks in it here or there. 

Thinking back though to the last trip and what separated the showers from the no-goers is most of the no-goers would generally request an incall and/or sound FAR too accomodating to my schedule or over-enthused about booking. Also, the number one thing they failed to do was talk about MONEY e.g. my rate for incall versus outcall. I don't have my rates advertised, and it actually helps give me a clue about some guys because they can even name a specific time and talk all good game but if they haven't talked about money, they not about it.

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Re: Charging clients less who pay deposits: Will this work long term?
« Reply #7 on: 17 November 2012, 11:07:30 pm »
I ask for small deposits for incalls and outcall bookings as a way to reduce timewasters and/or to cover my costs should the client fail to show up/cancel an outcall after I have bought travel tickets. I know it really isn't popular and will put a few genuine clients off but it saves me so much stress and I get the amount of work I want (I'm very part time that's why) even with a bit of an unpopular system.

That's the key. Reducing stress. It's a very unique kind of anguish to feel when one has traveled across time to see a client, and the client knows the escort traveled a long ways and knows the escort was expecting payment and knows the escort already got the hotel...and at the last minute he either has some wild excuse (my great grandma Bertha just died 3 seconds ago, I'm too devastasted to get my dick hard) or doesn't show.

These deposits will show who's real and who isn't. And by placing it on my ad, I'm hoping it auto-weeds the ones who aren't...and I don't have to worry about telling people this because it's already on my ad. On both instances, I had a nagging feeling to ask for a deposit, but felt reluctant to ask thinking it'd upset them. In the end, it was me whom was upsetted.

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Re: Charging clients less who pay deposits: Will this work long term?
« Reply #8 on: 17 November 2012, 11:33:32 pm »
I ask for small deposits for incalls and outcall bookings as a way to reduce timewasters and/or to cover my costs should the client fail to show up/cancel an outcall after I have bought travel tickets. I know it really isn't popular and will put a few genuine clients off but it saves me so much stress and I get the amount of work I want (I'm very part time that's why) even with a bit of an unpopular system.

That's the key. Reducing stress. It's a very unique kind of anguish to feel when one has traveled across time to see a client, and the client knows the escort traveled a long ways and knows the escort was expecting payment and knows the escort already got the hotel...and at the last minute he either has some wild excuse (my great grandma Bertha just died 3 seconds ago, I'm too devastasted to get my dick hard) or doesn't show.

These deposits will show who's real and who isn't. And by placing it on my ad, I'm hoping it auto-weeds the ones who aren't...and I don't have to worry about telling people this because it's already on my ad. On both instances, I had a nagging feeling to ask for a deposit, but felt reluctant to ask thinking it'd upset them. In the end, it was me whom was upsetted.

I dont blame you, if your getting a lot of wasters whom are costing you time and money, the best way is to make them pay some kind of deposit which will come off his full fee. I'd do it but dont get this extent of wasters as of yet. I must ask, as my dad lives in the US owns several properties and wants me to move over there, I'm not sure yet (and would be a while off and ?1000s off too if it happened as my 4 animals would be coming with me) but I'm wondering how safe it is to escort etc and how it differs to the way the uk works?

apologies if theres a thread about this just wanted to ask a girl who works there xx

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« Reply #9 on: 18 November 2012, 02:09:31 am »
I dont blame you, if your getting a lot of wasters whom are costing you time and money, the best way is to make them pay some kind of deposit which will come off his full fee. I'd do it but dont get this extent of wasters as of yet. I must ask, as my dad lives in the US owns several properties and wants me to move over there, I'm not sure yet (and would be a while off and ?1000s off too if it happened as my 4 animals would be coming with me) but I'm wondering how safe it is to escort etc and how it differs to the way the uk works?

apologies if theres a thread about this just wanted to ask a girl who works there xx

First off, on my last tour I broke even and the ratio of wasters to real clients was about 4:2. Which isn't bad. So I had twice the amount of genuine bookings versus flakes. But...the ones who flaked shouldn't of flaked to begin with because they had made concrete plans. That's where my trust goes down the drain.

As for working here in the U.S., I think it's relatively safe depending on where you advertise online. People in U.K. think they U.S. is all about busting prosititution. Actually, it's more about busting trafficking. Independent girls working alone generally don't have an issue. But...there's no guarantees. Just keep a low profile, don't have more than 1 person working out of a room and avoid low-rent classified areas and you're almost guaranteed not to run into any issues.

Many of the websites will not allow certain words to be used and you generally cant describe services...I think the issue with the U.S. though now as far as working is in all the major cities (New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Seattle, Dallas) the number of escorts has sky-rocketed as much as 200% and there are just not enough clients to go around. Sometimes, I have dreams of going to Thailand and seeing 10-20 clients a day for $100 each LOL.
« Last Edit: 18 November 2012, 02:12:17 am by Blaine »

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Re: Charging clients less who pay deposits: Will this work long term?
« Reply #10 on: 18 November 2012, 07:49:31 pm »
Ive seen some programmes on prostitution in Thailand and some of the girls are lucky to get $30 an hour  :o   Some struggle to get one a night  :(

I bet they would love to get $100 an hour too.
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