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Marcie

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Agency Fee's
« on: 12 December 2021, 08:17:54 pm »

I entertained the idea of using an agency today, not because I want to but because I'm always lurking in the  " Slow at the minute or just me"? section.

Lady seems very nice but wanted me to send ID in the form of passport/ Drivers licence ( plus ) a face photo. I thought that a passport would be enough?

Also it's 30% commission ( each hour ). I can understand the first hour but charged 30% for additional hours?

I don't intend to do the agency thing long-term as I love being an independent. This would be ( very short-term ).

Would appreciate your experience and feedback.  :)

Miffy

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Re: Agency Fee's
« Reply #1 on: 12 December 2021, 08:49:20 pm »

Also it's 30% commission ( each hour ). I can understand the first hour but charged 30% for additional hours?



Of course it's a percentage of all hours, the agency is only interested in making as money out of you as possible. Think about that, particularly going from being an independent where you screen your clients yourself and have a say over who you see. An agency doesn't care about this as it will only inhibit their opportunity to make money from you.

Not for me.

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« Reply #2 on: 12 December 2021, 09:04:53 pm »
I'm curious if 30% is a standard in the UK?
Because when I started, I was working 50/50 of each hour + I incurred 50% of the hotel and travel costs.
Now I know it was wrong.
But a year ago I got a job offer in an agency where they charged 30%.
These was out calls to clients in London area.
Rates from £ 200 (or £ 300 I don't remember anymore) to £ 500 per hour.
I remember I was surprised that they only wanted 30%  ???

Miffy

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Re: Agency Fee's
« Reply #3 on: 12 December 2021, 09:09:16 pm »
Anywhere between 30-50% although 30% is average.

Some agencies who provide an incall location and/or transport will charge a higher percentage.

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Re: Agency Fee's
« Reply #4 on: 12 December 2021, 09:29:52 pm »
Thank you Miffy  ;)

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« Reply #5 on: 12 December 2021, 09:34:43 pm »
30 % is reasonable in my opinion for outcall charges and if you was doing incalls with your own place but them giving you the clients. Sending i.d is normal as in they need to know who you are for safety of clients and safety for you if you went missing after going to a client and police needed to be called. Bare in mind though some agencies are dodgy and can blackmail you if you leave and go to another agency or go indie i know women it's happened to. All you can do is use your judgement though as best you can, see how long they been around? Do you know other ladies that ever worked with them etc?
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Marcie

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Re: Agency Fee's
« Reply #6 on: 12 December 2021, 09:57:11 pm »
Thanks Miffy. So 30% to 50 % is the norm

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Because when I started, I was working 50/50 of each hour + I incurred 50% of the hotel and travel costs.
Now I know it was wrong.


When I worked for an agency many many years ago I was only charged the first hour which was around 40% and then the 2nd hour  which was about 20 % and then the other hours were free of charge ( although average booking duration for me used to be 1 to 2 hour ) so still a crap deal.   >:(

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Sending i. D is normal as in they need to know who you are for safety of clients and safety for you if you went missing after going to a client and police needed to be called.


The reason they said that they needed iD was  ( I would have their money and I might run off with their cut ) ( not in those exact words) .  Maybe they had a bad experience.  ???

She seemed  nice and genuine.  I've done a search on the Saafe forum and it only brought up one post in the " spamming in the lions den". But I did'nt see any red flags. They've been established for years. Now that I know 30% per hour is the norm, I'll just give it a go and see how it goes as it's just for the short-term. Thanks everyone for your input x  ;)

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Re: Agency Fee's
« Reply #7 on: 12 December 2021, 11:13:25 pm »
The only legitimate reason they have to see your ID is to make sure that you're of age because being caught pimping out underage people would get them into a great deal of trouble; the law doesn't have the resources to go after every shiny agency website even if they'd like to. To establish this, they need to see your photograph and your date of birth, nothing else.

The idea that an agency would have any legal recourse even if you did run off with 'their' money, is laughable, which means that they weren't thinking about legal recourse at all. If they want an emergency contact for you, they can ask you to provide one.

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Re: Agency Fee's
« Reply #8 on: 12 December 2021, 11:15:28 pm »
Sending i.d is normal as in they need to know who you are

No it isn't, no they don't and we don't advise that anybody hands over their personal details to somebody who has no legitimate reason to know them.

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« Reply #9 on: 13 December 2021, 04:37:44 am »
Do not send any form of ID to them. If they’re a responsible agency then they’ll want to meet you before you agree you’re both the right fit for each other, and then you can show them ID covering everything except your photo and date of birth. They do not need this for any records. It’s not like they’re paying your tax and national insurance, so absolutely no need. As for safety in case of an emergency, they do not need your name in order to report any incident to the police. I wouldn’t entirely trust that they would call the police anyway. What they are doing is illegal, and they wouldn’t want to bring any attention their way. You are better off having a security buddy and use them. When I was with agencies I lost track of time chatting at the end bookings several times, and only a couple of times did I get a text asking if everything was okay.

30% is the norm for agencies in London, not sure about elsewhere. Whatever you do don’t tell clients about wanting to be independent or that your stint at the agency is short term. Some clients are very friendly with agency owners and will repeat back everything, and an innocent comment can easily turn into “she said she’s here to build up her client base to go independent with”.. It is when this happens you would worry about where that face photo and ID you sent will end up. I have had mostly positive experiences with agencies, but have seen and heard of some horror stories. If you keep them up to date with availability and signing on and off and always have your fees ready for collection/handover then it should go smoothly. It’s not just the agencies you need to be cautious of, it’s the other escorts you may encounter at agency meet-ups (to handover fees). I’ve met some of my closest friends this way, but also met some of the most conniving energy sapping backstabbing bitchy cows this way too. Remain cautious at all times and you can get the best out of it. Then go independent using the same name so if clients google you you can easily be found. The last agency I was with didn’t mind us being both independent and with them. This was actually good for them because clients who knew I was there would call and book me via them if I wasn’t able to take their call, which worked for me as I was working and studying and couldn’t have my work phone with me at these times. This set up will only work if the agency isn’t paranoid. An agency that asks for ID and photos to be sent is, so avoid avoid avoid! Keep an accurate record of fees, and include jobs that cancelled or no showed so that’ll clear up any discrepancies if your figures don’t match. If they think you’re diddling them out of a few quid it’s best to clarify it promptly - before your face photo ‘accidentally’ ends up on their website.

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Re: Agency Fee's
« Reply #10 on: 13 December 2021, 07:21:07 am »
No it isn't, no they don't and we don't advise that anybody hands over their personal details to somebody who has no legitimate reason to know them.

I am not saying it's a good idea to send an agency your i.d as like i stated before they could be very bad characters and blackmail and out you at a later date but if there running the business and paying tax etc then anyone they take on they should be vetting them to make sure there legal age and can work in the industry.

I worked briefly for one a long time ago and i remember there was reports of a woman robbing the clients and a couple of the clients reported to police. Police investigated and wanted to speak to the woman in question and they had no info on her and they said they should be checking i.d before allowing women to be taken on.

On this occassion they did not get in trouble with the police for running the agency. The paid tax and VAT on the business being a escort agency. It's not illegal to run a escort agency only to sell the women for sex. That particular agency i worked with for a short while never interviewed me and told me i must do sex plus they never told clients they got sex although obviously women done it, plus there was complaints from clients when some women refused to do sex in bookings and that caused problems because the client actually thought the agency was supposed to force the women to do sex. Although i admit that was a rare escort agency but they were told by police and there solicitor they should not be taking on people not knowing anything about them and sending them on bookings without a shred of i.d for there own safety plus the safety of the clients they send them too. So that was my experience with identifying someone so i understand if a agency asks for this info but i am still not saying it's a good idea.

What i did like about this agency they did vet carefully the clients and anyone they did not like the sound of they would not give them a booking and any woman that did complain about a client behaviour they would ban them and not pasd them on to other women. They had a policy if they had not heard from you within 15 mins of booking ending they would be constantly calling you and the client. One time they even sent someone round to the clients place as they could not get hold of the woman turns out she went home and fell asleep. If they had not closed down a long time ago i would have gone back to them. It's a shame more agencies do not operate like they did but unfortunately not many do not what i have heard of anyway.
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