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Erica_100

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Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« on: 12 October 2007, 07:09:13 pm »
I want to start working as an escort but the one thing that really worries me is the risk of contracting STI's. I know that using a condom reduces the risks of contracting most STI's but there's still the chance of pubic lice, herpes etc being contracted from the area that the condom doesnt cover and these STI's can be contracted even when there are no visible symptoms.
Do you think it's worth trying to offer a service of : Conversation, companionship, social events, massage, roleplay, spanking, OW and COB?

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #1 on: 12 October 2007, 09:14:02 pm »
yes you can but if only offer massage technically you are a massuese see tiny of watfords site she offers a no intercourse service and I offer a massage service

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #2 on: 13 October 2007, 05:53:26 pm »
Sure. Don't quit your day job yet, but it's worth a try. Some men aren't very interested in penetration and plenty don't want it every time, with an attractive online presence and/or competitive rates you're bound to get some interest. Emphasising your high safety standards will appeal to some clients, too.

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #3 on: 14 October 2007, 05:30:00 pm »
As has been said, there are women (and more men - this is one area where male escorts have it easier!) who don't offer this as a service, and Tiny's probably the most famous. But one reason there aren't many of them is that it's a niche market and most men will expect to be able to have "sex" if they wanted it, even if it doesn't actually happen for one reason or another.

You need to be really good at handjobs, one way or another. There's one good book with a large number of ways, most of which aren't obvious or commonly available, and some of which are indeed very nice to be on the receiving end of :) (I'll remember what it's called not long after pressing 'Post', I suspect.)

The other group who don't are most pro dommes, some of whom get quite sniffy if what they do is described as 'prostitution'. You've mentioned spanking - if you can offer a good service in other areas of BDSM, you might consider concentrating on that angle.

If you feel the risks of sex with a condom are too high, I do wonder slightly how happy you are with the risks involved in meeting random strangers for escorting even without having penetrative sex with them.

'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #4 on: 14 October 2007, 09:34:23 pm »
Thank you for all of youuseful replies!
Much appreciated!
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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #5 on: 14 October 2007, 10:10:46 pm »
I don't know what book xw5 is referring to, but I get a lot of compliments on my HJs. My top tip is to use really good lube. For me, it has to be silicone-based.

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #6 on: 15 October 2007, 08:18:17 pm »
Ah ha, it's "How to Be a Great Lover" by Lou Paget. I'd ignore large sections of the book, but the handjob bits are good.

A famous women's magazine tried to print some of the techniques, but because they were too squeamish to show even the line drawings the book has, the results were seriously confusing!

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really good lube. For me, it has to be silicone-based

Certainly stays slippy for ages, but if you're going to use a condom later, you'll probably need some serious wipes to get it off the penis.
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #7 on: 16 October 2007, 03:45:30 am »
Actually, I deliberately put lube underneath the condom even if I don't intend to give a hand job first. I don't have problems with slippage (mucus membranes seem to like absorbing it) and most men prefer the feeling.

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #8 on: 16 October 2007, 02:56:29 pm »
I want to start working as an escort but the one thing that really worries me is the risk of contracting STI's. I know that using a condom reduces the risks of contracting most STI's but there's still the chance of pubic lice, herpes etc being contracted from the area that the condom doesnt cover and these STI's can be contracted even when there are no visible symptoms.
Do you think it's worth trying to offer a service of : Conversation, companionship, social events, massage, roleplay, spanking, OW and COB?

Erica
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I don't think you're the only one who is seriously concerned about contracting the STIs or passing something on without knowing.

It would be only naive if someone never took this sort of question seriously.  personally I find it seriously odd if men or women think too lightly of these things imho.

think Tiny does offer sex when she's doing 3sums (2 girls) I heard from somewhere (but not sure). maybe her "girlfriend" would be happy to offer it not sure.

OWO is another murky territory and some sexual health advisor(s) flatly confirms that a man can catch STIs via OWO/via her infected throat but we never get to the "Truth" about the REAL probability (in percentage) of passing something on if you were infected and you were a Carrier of any STIs without any knowledge and gave a man OWO.

One question I have for men though I  have a funny feeling that men would never admit even if they had something in case escorts would cease to see him whether he was treated successfully or left untreated.

would you offer any service to men who had a history of STIs?  think about it "he" would probably don't want anyone to know about his such personal information and it is most likely he would say his test came back "negative" even if it wasn't.

another thing...why girls would allow men to go down on her unprotected? you could potentially catch something but it is said that many girls would do at their own personal risk as much as his.

but why don't we know for sure exactly what risks we are exposed to during these events? you just think it would be fine as he's a sweet guy etc?

not sure if it is called "safe sex" when someone does offer OWO or unprotected RO?  can anyone clarify it sounds like selective safe sex to me? thanks! x














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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #9 on: 17 October 2007, 06:50:29 pm »
There's no such thing as safe sex. The term is safer sex, and people decide what risks they're willing to take, hopefully after doing some research and giving it some thought.

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #10 on: 18 October 2007, 12:56:17 pm »
There's no such thing as safe sex. The term is safer sex, and people decide what risks they're willing to take, hopefully after doing some research and giving it some thought.

that, I'd agree.

I personally feel some sexual health advisers are not really geared up to provide more accurate data i.e. hard facts to working girls. 

 did contact multiple ones and one lady was a straight talking type.  one was a bit more in a line of "well, I am a professional here but you are a sex worker so please don't ask me things I discuss only with other medical professionals".

on the other hand, suppose perhaps sexual health isn't quite as scientific as we are all led to believe when it comes to hard data which may vary according to different medics running the same cohort tests.

sometimes it may be better to say "actually that's something we don't know" would be better to say than just trying to avoid questions saying "I am a professional..etc"

the only problem really from what I can see is punters.  do they care as much as we do? a big question.

nothing personal here but blissfully ignorant about "risks" involved in this day and age is - a huge turn off.   ::)




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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #11 on: 18 October 2007, 03:19:05 pm »
The problem is that it's difficult to get hard facts, as far as I can tell. Other people on here will know more about the research than I do, but I believe risks are calculated by asking people about their sexual habits and comparing that to infection rates. It would take honesty and good memories to get accurate results.

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #12 on: 18 October 2007, 03:49:23 pm »
The problem is that it's difficult to get hard facts, as far as I can tell. Other people on here will know more about the research than I do, but I believe risks are calculated by asking people about their sexual habits and comparing that to infection rates. It would take honesty and good memories to get accurate results.

Cannot agree more!

Some men are very accepting or even so articulate/communicative when we both try to communicate important things like protecting our sexual health.

On the other hands there are others  who aren't interested in engaging in a simple conversation on that topic.  OK that may be "a bit awkward" to some older men who grew up in a different time but it's almost like "come on..we're not having a monogamous liaison COMPLETELY & Utterly NOT based in exclusivity".


These days I'm much more upfront:  have you been tested recently? No reply. I just tell "get yourself sorted out" bye bye. 

I ain't catching lifelong (untreatable) illness(es) for a bit of cash, read my lips LOL! (and I'm not joking....you know..)
 
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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #13 on: 19 October 2007, 10:55:51 pm »
Anika Mae has beaten me to the distinction between 'safe' and 'safeR', plus the need for everyone to set their own boundaries. Her's differ from mine, but in the words of a thousand and one books for children, that's ok.

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Re: Can I work as an escort without offering penetrative sex?
« Reply #14 on: 20 October 2007, 12:32:55 pm »
Cool Richard.

One thing I came across with this comment on one seedy punter's board  saying "I find it so irritating to see some Girls offering BB without saying in public".

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well this man surely needs to get some tesco supermarket mentality checked out: we aint selling banana on a stall exactly?

not BB in particular but I tend to agree with someone saying "what's so f** big deal about BB if he's openly doing OWO/RO with street hookers or escorts & he is married with a woman whom he gets regular sex from.

think when some ignorant punters criticises escorts for whatever she makes her own decisions he ought to get his own domestic safety checked before he goes on to criticise escorts/others.

Control freak.

Some men are just to f***** ignorant. 

we don't need to tell anything to this sort of men who appear to have only selective memory i.e. "escorts who choose to do BB without telling others in public ought to be hanged" but "quick OWO at the street corner is fine to me because I wore condom for sex"

there are risks & some men think their "logics" prevail but personally life always has a unique way of revealing what he had been up to one day.

Stop blaming escorts.  Start gaining proper sexual health information!

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