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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Caledonia on 23 September 2013, 07:21:10 pm
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I am doing filmed bukkake boob events (just me no other girls, no faces shown, breast relief & hand relief only), but I seem to have reached a stalemate with the people arranging it. Their idea is to charge ?20 per guy, personally I think this is too low and will only end up with Chav types at this price.
I think it should be minimum of ?50 but Company are saying I need to make a name first before I can charge a lot.
What do you think am I right in wanting more?
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My mate says u can always start high and then haggle to a lower price but never have a low price and then demand a higher price!!
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If you think ?20 - presumably that's all yours and not split? - is too low, just say 'no' to them. If it's filmed, they make their money in other ways and if they can't find someone willing to do it for 'not much', they can always be on the receiving end as well as behind the camera themselves.
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If you think ?20 - presumably that's all yours and not split? - is too low, just say 'no' to them. If it's filmed, they make their money in other ways and if they can't find someone willing to do it for 'not much', they can always be on the receiving end as well as behind the camera themselves.
Yes thats just for me, they are paying me on top of this but at the moment it's only ?100 until they are actually making money from the footage.
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Update on this: Got them up to 30 per client but really want to charge 50 as I believe the low rate is only putting clients off and attracting timewasters.
They are of the opinion 50 is to high and no one would pay that.
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How many tickets (if that's the right word lol) have you sold? I guess you really need to consider if it's worth your time. personally I think 30 is too low. But I have no idea about these sorts of things.
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How many tickets (if that's the right word lol) have you sold? I guess you really need to consider if it's worth your time. personally I think 30 is too low. But I have no idea about these sorts of things.
Not sure what you mean by tickets.
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Sorry just realised that sounded a bit rude.. I guess I meant how many have you sold So far.
Sorry my bad, that was phrased all wrong xx
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Its done just like a normal booking, they have to book by a certain time on the day and they pay on arrival.
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Could you charge something like 20/30 for a hand job and 50 for oral?
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Could you charge something like 20/30 for a hand job and 50 for oral?
I dont do oral as its filmed and I dont want any of my face in the shots, plus would end up with idiots trying to pull a fast one..
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Are you certain your face won't be shown briefly "accidentally" ? Guess I'm pretty vanilla but no way I'd trust these "boys" who can't spend more than ?30. Each to their own but sounds like it's all starting off on a degrading footing
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What kind of company is involved? Surely you shouldn't have to be a brand name to charge average rate? Sounds like they're taking advantage
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Are you certain your face won't be shown briefly "accidentally" ? Guess I'm pretty vanilla but no way I'd trust these "boys" who can't spend more than ?30. Each to their own but sounds like it's all starting off on a degrading footing
Its all focused on the boobs, its not the film guys paying 30, that is what they are saying clients should be charged (they dont get any cut from what clients pay)
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What kind of company is involved? Surely you shouldn't have to be a brand name to charge average rate? Sounds like they're taking advantage
I do have a signed contract with them for half of what the footage is sold for plus clips for my own use, which is one of the reasons payout is so low at the moment as they dont really make any money till the footage is ready.
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I'd ask for a flat rate. When I did parties I would get around 250-300 for the two hours for around 5/6 guys (plus another girl) our fees were shared between the guys. Usually worked out around 100 per guy but that was full sex/oral and not filmed.
Although a different situation the payment method might be something you could work with.
I've been to a few filmed parties including bukkake and then sex, I think the guys were charged 60 each but again that was including sex.
Only do it for what you're comfortable with though.
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I am doing filmed bukkake boob events (just me no other girls, no faces shown, breast relief & hand relief only), but I seem to have reached a stalemate with the people arranging it. Their idea is to charge ?20 per guy, personally I think this is too low and will only end up with Chav types at this price.
I think it should be minimum of ?50 but Company are saying I need to make a name first before I can charge a lot.
What do you think am I right in wanting more?
Yes.
You are right.
Charge a minimum of ?50 each
Unless you are desperate for the money why would you lower/negotiate rates under any circumstance ?
It's either your rates or they find someone else...
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Always charge what you think you are worth and don't be negotiated on that, no amount of money is worth regretting your actions later.
Charge ?50 a guy if that's what you want, your body your rules, if the organisers don't like it tell them to piss off after all they will be safely BEHIND the camera. Say people pay me ?xxx normally for an hour, ?50 to cum on me is a motherfucking bargain! Are you doing this event as work is slow if so best get the most cash out of it as possible + your cut of the sold footage right?
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I'm not sure if I'm being stupid here (probably ;D)but why do you need an organizer for this type of event... is this arrangement something you want and are comfortable with?
Just asking because it sounds like you do all the work and take all the risk whilst being paid below the level that you feel comfortable with. I agree with you that ?20/?30 will attract chavs and undesirables, ?50 sounds far more reasonable and would be what I would charge in your position.
The only benefit that I can see from having someone else arrange the bukkake for you is the security aspect; i.e. guys are unlikely to try any crap if there's a third party there. But you could arrange your own security :) If you want to do bukkake and make money from it why not arrange it yourself, pocket all your well deserved earnings, and arrange yourself for a trusted person to film / supervise for safety reasons if you want that? xx
Just an idea (from someone who is loathe to give undeserving third parties anything) x
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I'm not sure if I'm being stupid here (probably ;D)but why do you need an organizer for this type of event... is this arrangement something you want and are comfortable with?
Just asking because it sounds like you do all the work and take all the risk whilst being paid below the level that you feel comfortable with. I agree with you that ?20/?30 will attract chavs and undesirables, ?50 sounds far more reasonable and would be what I would charge in your position.
The only benefit that I can see from having someone else arrange the bukkake for you is the security aspect; i.e. guys are unlikely to try any crap if there's a third party there. But you could arrange your own security :) If you want to do bukkake and make money from it why not arrange it yourself, pocket all your well deserved earnings, and arrange yourself for a trusted person to film / supervise for safety reasons if you want that? xx
Just an idea (from someone who is loathe to give undeserving third parties anything) x
They have hired me to do the events and they are the filmakers.
I have about 8 more events to do till we have the amount of footage thats needed, but after that I wont be working with them unless seriously change.
I mean its all well and good them saying but you will make loads when it's done, but that doesn't pay my bills now.
I also think the locations they choose also put people off and the fact they use the likes of Premier Inn.
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Why not just arrange your own bukkake event at the price you want? Then everything is up to you and you can ask the guys to film some clips for you, that way only you have the clips too.
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Update on this: Got them up to 30 per client but really want to charge 50 as I believe the low rate is only putting clients off and attracting timewasters.
They are of the opinion 50 is to high and no one would pay that.
Basically, they want as many guys as possible because that makes the footage easier to sell. They'd be happiest if it were free and the queue was out the door.
See earlier comment: they need you more than you need them...
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Basically, they want as many guys as possible because that makes the footage easier to sell. They'd be happiest if it were free and the queue was out the door.
Then they would do better if they used an apartment rather than Premier Inns and did it Central rather than likes of Stratford, Ilford or Brixton, which I have told them :-D