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Jessiegirl

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #15 on: 12 February 2017, 11:35:20 pm »
Maybe I can suggest something in between such as offer social rates for dinner?

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #16 on: 12 February 2017, 11:41:17 pm »
Maybe I can suggest something in between such as offer social rates for dinner?

You could but I suspect that will be his preference on all future bookings, why pay x amount for an hour when you can get 12 for buying dinner and a free fuck at the end of the night

Jessiegirl

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #17 on: 12 February 2017, 11:46:02 pm »
No I mean he pays full rate for an hour but reduced rate for dinner date. I see some girls provide reduced rates for social dating.
Thing is I would date him if I met him in a bar or dating site. So get paid and have a good time too.

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« Reply #18 on: 12 February 2017, 11:48:28 pm »
No I mean he pays full rate for an hour but reduced rate for dinner date. I see some girls provide reduced rates for social dating.
Thing is I would date him if I met him in a bar or dating site. So get paid and have a good time too.

Iv seen girls advertise 50 an hour for dinner dates, its not something I offer tho so not up on how it would work and pricing

Jessiegirl

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #19 on: 12 February 2017, 11:52:22 pm »
Thanks next time I see him will suggest reduced rates for social dating and see what he says :D

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #20 on: 13 February 2017, 12:34:50 am »
Do you want him as a boyfriend (dating) or as a client?

Choose one or the other.

If you genuinely like him, you might be able to make a relationship work. You ditch him as a paid client, you have sex with him for free. If he's a paid client, his dinner dates are on social rates, no freebies, tell him your real name if you like. He isn't going to be happy about paying for dinner dates now..

Yes, some girls have clients that they might spend time with outside of work on unpaid time. Perhaps they are known them for years. I have one that would take me bush walking when no one else wanted to come, take me to ikea, listen to be bitch and moan about my boyfriend; they were like a friend that sometimes booked and paid me for sex. They were under no illusion what so ever that I had any feelings for them, it was business, we got on really well and knew each other years and know everything about each other and are friends

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #21 on: 13 February 2017, 02:50:38 am »
I'm not after a boyfriend and want to keep him as a client as he sees me a lot. Also heis not after a relationship either. Maybe my fault for suggesting he take me out in the first place.
I will suggest social dating rates as never done before and get his feedback. Will keep you all posted.
I do tel him a lot about my personal life and problems and he listens and gives me advice and support which is nice and a comfort to me. Also some clients I get are not nice so he has advised me to stand up to my boss and not accept these bookings. See my separate post about being ripped off.

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #22 on: 13 February 2017, 03:08:57 am »
I'm not after a boyfriend and want to keep him as a client as he sees me a lot. Also heis not after a relationship either. Maybe my fault for suggesting he take me out in the first place.
I will suggest social dating rates as never done before and get his feedback. Will keep you all posted.
I do tel him a lot about my personal life and problems and he listens and gives me advice and support which is nice and a comfort to me. Also some clients I get are not nice so he has advised me to stand up to my boss and not accept these bookings. See my separate post about being ripped off.

I really, really would advise easing up on sharing so much info about yourself. He may be charming now, but what if he turns out to be a psychopathic stalker who then outs you to all and sundry? It sounds like you're enjoying the intimacy, but how much do you really know about him?
"There is no sin except stupidity" - Oscar Wilde

Jessiegirl

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #23 on: 13 February 2017, 03:30:59 am »
I can chat to him about anything and he tells me everything. I doubt he is a stalker as he knows roughly where I live as i told him he did not ask. I have had a stalker so know what that's like. I do really like the intimacy and we always have a chat after sex and he is really intimate and caring towards me. I just wish all my clients were like him.
I don't intend doing this job for the rest of my life as i have another job. I intend to save the money to start my own business so just doing this to help with that.

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #24 on: 13 February 2017, 10:29:53 am »
Set boundaries re: the dinner dates and charge him, mostly so he knows there are no feelings there and doesn't get his heart broken.

I think some people need to be less paranoid about "stalkers", "psychopaths" etc. The reality is, that statistically, people close to you are people that are most likely to cause you pain, suffering and drama in your life. People you choose as boyfriends, partners, family members, friends.

99% of clients - even pains in the ass - are not going to cause any real drama in your life. The one's that fancy you, fancy you but know that you are unavailable. Some are infatuated. I've had clients tell me that they love me and are obsessed with me and write me long two page letters describing my favourite bones and facial angles. It's fine, he reiterates that it's from a distance and in a harmless and respectful way like an obsession a celebrity as a teenager. Most clients are asking personal questions as they think of you warmly, they think you are a nice woman and are interested in who you are and want to learn more about you so they have something to talk about. Clients are people, people that pay for sex. It doesn't make them more or less likely to have negative personality traits. If you think that it does, it might be time to reassess how happy you are in your line of work (IMO) as that's very chip on the shoulder.

There are clients here girls discuss where clearly, they have personality traits that are very off (they are controlling, jealous, try to woo them with gifts, invade their personal life, cannot take rejection etc); be on guard with all  - people - like that in life, not just clients. Realistically, these are going to be men you date, not clients.. (or time wasters, ugly mugs, men that don't pass your screening).

He is probably just lonely, fancies you and enjoys your company. It's basically where you want him, that's a gravy train for $ Sincerity and empathy will earn you good money, just be careful not to take on the feelings and emotions of others too much.

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #25 on: 13 February 2017, 11:28:00 am »
Maybe I can suggest something in between such as offer social rates for dinner?

In my experience there is no such thing as 'something in between'.  It's either a relationship or it's business.  Your rates are your rates, and your time is your time.  There is never any 'negotiating' to be done.

I know many girls that have got caught up in this sort of arrangement when they first started (me included - idiot!) and those situations have not ended well.  Punters can spot a 'green' escort a mile off and will always take advantage.  In this line of work, we cannot allow 'emotions' to become involved.  It's a job like any other and boundaries must be set and maintained.

I would even go as far as predicting that in a few months time, you will have well and truly crossed him off your list and moved on.

Sorry to sound harsh but please stay in the driving seat and keep safe. x
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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #26 on: 13 February 2017, 11:53:29 am »
If it is a professional date you should charge him your professional fees, work out how much you would make for those hours you would be spending in his time and give him a reduce rate but nothing too reduced, you are a business not a charity. 

Plus clients always assume that as sex workers we do not go to social functions or restaurants on our own and that they are doing us a favour, after all you will probably be forking money out for an outfit etc and then have to sit through this guy more than likely getting drunk, embarrassing you infront of all of his friends etc.

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #27 on: 13 February 2017, 11:58:48 am »
If it is a professional date you should charge him your professional fees, work out how much you would make for those hours you would be spending in his time and give him a reduce rate but nothing too reduced, you are a business not a charity. 

Plus clients always assume that as sex workers we do not go to social functions or restaurants on our own and that they are doing us a favour, after all you will probably be forking money out for an outfit etc and then have to sit through this guy more than likely getting drunk, embarrassing you infront of all of his friends etc.

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #28 on: 13 February 2017, 02:31:03 pm »
Clients can be some of the most wonderful people you will ever meet.

I have had some clients who have stuck with me through two retirements, including moving to London and being outed so quite literally destroying everything and disappearing off the face of the earth. I have met some really lovely men who have seen me for years - one comes to mind. He used to be a bit clingy, but harmlessly so; he clearly was lonely and wanted a girlfriend rather than a girlfriend experience. When he went away on trips, he would bring me really thoughtful presents back, to the point I felt a bit uncomfortable taking them on top of his fee. One day he texted me pretty much to say goodbye, because he had met someone he really liked, and wanted to give it a go with her, but was really grateful for all the time he 'shared with me'. In the weirdest way, it was ...sweet, and I knew he was being sincere and genuine. Other clients have given me really decent business advice (I'm self employed anyway because oddly I don't like working to make anyone money now besides me ;D). The majority of clients, in my experience, are genuinely decent men who just want a bit of escapism for an hour or two.

I know of women who have dated clients in the past, I've never been close enough to them to tell you how its worked out for them. It wouldn't be my thing - I have no moral objection to it, its just not something I would do. But if I had a pound for the clients or would be clients who wanted to have social time off the clock with me, I would have a luxurious holiday somewhere for a few weeks. Personally I see it as boundary pushing - you pay me for my time. My rates are ?120 an hour with ?100 an hour after that; if you want to see me outside of that for dinner and drinks, I'll have to have a think about that because I will reduce my rates accordingly, but I'm still being paid.

And I would be reluctant to talk all about your personal life with a client; he might be a genuinely wonderful person, but in my experience, sometimes those genuinely wonderful people can innocently mention those details to someone else who isn't quite so wonderful. And before you know it, you're a wonderful piece of gossip. That's not about being outed or anything extreme like that - its just words of experience that not everyone who smiles at you is your friend.

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Re: Boundaries and dating a client
« Reply #29 on: 13 February 2017, 02:59:07 pm »
We  are all human and We have feelings especially in a job like this we can get attatched to certain clients . I don't see the point in seeing them and having sex with them for free if he's nice and you get on that's great plus you get money that's the way I would look at it . I don't mix business and pleasure but years ago when I had just started the job I let a client take me out on a few dates he then told people what I did since then I wouldn't involve my self with a client unless money is exchanged . I have some lovely clients who when I have been on tour and it's the end of the day I have let them stay longer and I have Even had a take away with a couple but these are with regulars. I wouldn't see any one for free you might get attatched to him . Best not to mix business and pleasure.