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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Vichyssoise on 06 July 2014, 09:24:47 pm
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Ok here is another one. ??? I have recently had two emails on AW and I couldn't say there was any thing in particular wrong with the content but there were no Hi or bye from either. The first was very curt and to the point and asking for my number. I eventually gave him my number, thought I would try and suss him out over the phone. The second put a booking request in and emailed just saying where he wanted the booking to take place ( hotel) and my number, again no hi or bye, how's your father or anything. Should I be wary of these kind of approaches or am I being over cautious?
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Well we have very little to go on as it is, so is there such a thing as over-cautious in our situation? Not sure myself!! ???
There is the argument that sometimes it is hard to relay the intended tone of a message when it is put in writing. However, in your case you're talking about simple pleasantries. In my personal opinion, I would tend to think that if a guy can't communicate in a polite way when requesting a booking, he is unlikely to be a shining example of perfect manners in real life :-\
This probably isn't very helpful at all, as I don't actually know what advice to give - except to trust your spidey senses! xx
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I didn't know how to copy and paste on my iPad but I have just learned ;D
This is the first one,
hi Carmel Would you kindly send me your mobile number please thank you
This is what he sent because I hadn't replied,
i have emailed you before and although you read my email you have not replied. I am interested in role play and am very genuine. please reply. your pictures are excellent.
The rest where in the same vein.
The second guy sent this,
would be interested in meeting you on 16/07/2014 in hotel,liverpool between 19.00hrs and 21.00hrs . would need a contact number as will not have access to computer while there . my irish mobile is ....
I just wondered if this was a normal email, all others I have had are something like I would write myself.
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Hmmm, I think I have to give the first guy the benefit of the doubt. He may well be a total dick; however, he hasn't been rude or abrupt. His first message was polite and his second was...irritating?
The second guy - well he was perhaps a straight-to-the-point kind of chap. Again he didn't sound rude. The message may read as quite abrupt but actually I think he sounds reasonably ok, according to that short email!
At the end of the day, this is your decision, nobody else's; just letting you know my opinion, which is all it is! Hopefully they are both diamonds!
M x
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This is what he sent because I hadn't replied,
i have emailed you before and although you read my email you have not replied. I am interested in role play and am very genuine. please reply. your pictures are excellent.
I personally wouldn't see this guy. I hate it when people feel you should respond as soon as you've read the email. Most of the time I can't respond instantly due to reading it whilst driving/on the go, needing to check my work schedule etc which isn't always possible to do immediately. He has a grandiose sense of self importance, plus with this type I'd be worried about boundary pushing during the booking. I know he was just asking for your number in the first email, but still I wouldn't like the sound of him after his second email.
As for the Irish guy, his email sounds fine, ask that he calls you for a quick chat and then you can gauge your feelings about seeing him better after you've spoken.
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Both of them seem fine to me, but the impatience of the first guy would irritate me a little.
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Both seemed fine to me too but don't like men who pester! X
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This is what he sent because I hadn't replied,
i have emailed you before and although you read my email you have not replied. I am interested in role play and am very genuine. please reply. your pictures are excellent.
I personally wouldn't see this guy. I hate it when people feel you should respond as soon as you've read the email. Most of the time I can't respond instantly due to reading it whilst driving/on the go, needing to check my work schedule etc which isn't always possible to do immediately. He has a grandiose sense of self importance, plus with this type I'd be worried about boundary pushing during the booking. I know he was just asking for your number in the first email, but still I wouldn't like the sound of him after his second email.
As for the Irish guy, his email sounds fine, ask that he calls you for a quick chat and then you can gauge your feelings about seeing him better after you've spoken.
Totally agree that he could turn into a boundary pusher. Not knowing how long it was between the emails, it's hard to say whether he was being irritating or demanding. You're totally right though, this guy could also be seen as an easy candidate for the block button :)
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It was literally over night, the first email was 5 o'clock in the eve and the second was 9 the next morning. I read it the previous eve.
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It was literally over night, the first email was 5 o'clock in the eve and the second was 9 the next morning. I read it the previous eve.
Then he sounds needy. On paper it's not a massive concern but I guess my personal senses would be screaming at me to stay away! I think you already know this though ;D ;D
I don't know about you but I have this terrible habit of reading my AW messages when I'm on the go, knowing full well I have no time to reply. It's not really terrible but when you know that the sender can see you've read them and not replied, it's a very annoying aspect of the system which must give them a complex!
This one does sound like he would be hard work - although I'm still undecided!! Lol how helpful :) x
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If I read an email, I always reply straight away.
I think he was right to send the second email and he sounds genuine enough to me.
Between 5 pm and 9 am next day its plenty of time to reply to the 5 pm email I think.
Just sharing my opinion and how I do things x
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If I read an email, I always reply straight away.
I think he was right to send the second email and he sounds genuine enough to me.
Between 5 pm and 9 am next day its plenty of time to reply to the 5 pm email I think.
Just sharing my opinion and how I do things x
HB congratulations for replying to your emails immediately! Someone will be along to award you with a prossie gold star ;D
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If you ladies don't want people to know you've read them and are using AW, you should subscribe to the long text version thing (that's totally not what it's called, yes I know)-- I love it, it's like 4 pounds for 3 months or something and when you get the e-mail notifying you you've received an e-mail it includes the message... then you can read it without them knowing you've seen it!
I don't think either of those sound bad, just to the point which there's nothing wrong with... I just hate the following messages:
"are you available"
"where are you based"
Ugh.
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Sometimes blunt emails with not even a Hi, even if they've done a booking, make me think they copy and paste it to lots of people and make random bookings. This has sometimes been the case but who knows!
Also not saying it's the case here but I've had lots of timewasters tell me they are genuine to try and convince me more ::) whereas I rarely get genuine clients actually say they are genuine lol. So I don't know, could go either way.
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ive had to ask them to call to book, I want to hear their voices to get an idea of the person as some don't sound too nice and are rude they don't ever get a booking. The emails are just deleted like... I want you now /postcode/ are u local . I am a regular( ive never even met them) and the list goes on as you all know ! ::)
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I second the recommendation to subscribe to the email forwarding. It really helps to be able to just glance at my phone and see if I really need to go log in to AW on my laptop or if I can just ignore it for the time being.
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They both sound fine to me, I think most people feel a bit like 'aww :(' if they see someone has read their email but didn't respond.. I've been told by clients several times that some emails they send never get responded to, despite them being genuine clients. If the client has had that happen to him, I could completely understand a cheeky reminder email..at least it shows you that he is keen! :)
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I second the recommendation to subscribe to the email forwarding. It really helps to be able to just glance at my phone and see if I really need to go log in to AW on my laptop or if I can just ignore it for the time being.
Thirded. Best 4 credits I ever spent, and it's saved me loads of time when I've been busy. Seeing the plain notification and logging into AW just to find a text speak oneliner headed straight for Bintown is infuriating enough anyway, but far worse when you're short on minutes :).
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If you ladies don't want people to know you've read them and are using AW, you should subscribe to the long text version thing (that's totally not what it's called, yes I know)-- I love it, it's like 4 pounds for 3 months or something and when you get the e-mail notifying you you've received an e-mail it includes the message... then you can read it without them knowing you've seen it!
I don't think either of those sound bad, just to the point which there's nothing wrong with... I just hate the following messages:
"are you available"
"where are you based"
That is a brilliant idea - thank you ;)
Ugh.
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If you ladies don't want people to know you've read them and are using AW, you should subscribe to the long text version thing (that's totally not what it's called, yes I know)-- I love it, it's like 4 pounds for 3 months or something and when you get the e-mail notifying you you've received an e-mail it includes the message... then you can read it without them knowing you've seen it!
I don't think either of those sound bad, just to the point which there's nothing wrong with... I just hate the following messages:
"are you available"
"where are you based"
That is a brilliant idea - thank you ;)
Ugh.
Don't know how I managed that!! Sorry :) I obviously meant to say thank you for the suggestion *after* the quote ;D
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If I read an email, I always reply straight away.
I think he was right to send the second email and he sounds genuine enough to me.
Between 5 pm and 9 am next day its plenty of time to reply to the 5 pm email I think.
Just sharing my opinion and how I do things x
HB congratulations for replying to your emails immediately! Someone will be along to award you with a prossie gold star ;D
I don't think there was any need for that.I am with Blondie if I can't answer I leave it unread.We are running a business and that to me is answering enquiries in my working day asap.I don't see a problem with either email.The guy who sent the 2nd mail might well have wanted to get booked in as soon as he could and alot of guys have limited opportunities to make arrangements.I hear punters moaning alot about big delays in getting a response or not getting one at all.When he could see you had read it he was expecting a response that evening.It surely only takes 2 mins to reply with a yay or nay.
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Bibi, it's up to you if you want to pick fault with my posts :) I reacted to a post which was in response to my admission that I sometimes read messages on the go. I didn't find the response very constructive. I've moved on - perhaps you haven't ???
As this is a support and advice forum, I did my best to help the OP and admitted that I'm not perfect...as a result I've been given a great suggestion as to how I can avoid the email situation in future. That was constructive :-)
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If I read an email, I always reply straight away.
I think he was right to send the second email and he sounds genuine enough to me.
Between 5 pm and 9 am next day its plenty of time to reply to the 5 pm email I think.
Just sharing my opinion and how I do things x
HB congratulations for replying to your emails immediately! Someone will be along to award you with a prossie gold star ;D
I don't think there was any need for that.I am with Blondie if I can't answer I leave it unread.We are running a business and that to me is answering enquiries in my working day asap.I don't see a problem with either email.The guy who sent the 2nd mail might well have wanted to get booked in as soon as he could and alot of guys have limited opportunities to make arrangements.I hear punters moaning alot about big delays in getting a response or not getting one at all.When he could see you had read it he was expecting a response that evening.It surely only takes 2 mins to reply with a yay or nay.
I agree with you when we're talking about a text, but not with e-mail on a website. I don't have internet at my incall flat so I can't respond to an AW message without having to log into it on my phone which is a pain in the ass and doesn't take two minutes. And if I'm out and about, same thing. If I'm shopping at Debenhams and someone texts me, I will turn away from the sales counter to respond. But I'm not going to go into the effort of logging into AW there. I tell guys to to text me if they want a fast response it's not my problem if they're too lazy to read my profile to see that part.
And if a message is rude or carless I just block them and don't respond. Messages like "r u available" "20 mins?" "please send post code" do not deserve my valuable time of writing out a response. They can suck it if it inconveniences them.
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I second the recommendation to subscribe to the email forwarding. It really helps to be able to just glance at my phone and see if I really need to go log in to AW on my laptop or if I can just ignore it for the time being.
Can i say 4th save me a huge amount of time
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My point was if you have taken the time to log in and read it then you may as well answer quickly. Its the person having read it then not answering which may make some guys think they are being ignored or messed about.
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Sometimes it's not a case of being able to respond quickly. In my case, I'm very part time and take very few bookings. Therefore, if I read a message on my phone asking if I'm free at 12 on Thursday, I might need to think it through to see if it's possible. That would include needing to get home and check my diary.
The notifications is a good idea though and a valuable piece of advice, taken on board :)
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I do try to answer my mail as I read it, but on this occasion I was at a loss what to think. I wasn't sure if I liked the tone of the message and being new I wanted some second, third fourth and however many opinions to help me. At this stage I don't know what is good, bad or just plain creepy. Some are screamingly obvious but others are not. Also like mimi I am part time so need to check I am not double booking with my everyday life. The whole process is new to me and I have to double and triple check everything. But thank you all for your contributions, most were helpful. And to bring you all up to speed I didn't see either, after speaking to one it turns out he was wanting something I don't offer and I didn't like the tone of the second and declined his offer.
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My point was if you have taken the time to log in and read it then you may as well answer quickly. Its the person having read it then not answering which may make some guys think they are being ignored or messed about.
Well, I don't log in to AW unless I'm going to respond because I have the subscription service so I can just read them in my e-mail, but even if I do, that doesn't mean I am required to respond immediately. I may need to check if I'm available or be waiting to hear back from a client to confirm a time that they're asking about. There's tons of reasons. Waiting a day is another thing entirely but I think it's unfair to expect everyone to respond in five minutes. I'm usually communicating with somewhere between 10 and 20 punters a day and I sometimes have to wait for someone else to respond about a time, if they asked first, before I can respond to someone else.
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That's fair enough but then I just say something like 'Hi, I will need to check my availability and then I will get back to you as soon as I can'.
I agree the detailed email subscription is invaluable it saves logging in and making it look like an email has been read and ignored.