He'd be phoning them and hounding the Landlord, threatening him that he was going to expose him as 'gaining' from me.  He's a local guy and very respected and this was really upsetting him.  I had no idea that this had been going on for a while with them and they had hoped he would stop but then the badguy was threatening the police and they had no option but to act.

I'd be very tempted to see if the landlord is interested in making a blackmail complaint with you. How good a tenant were you?

Quote from: scottishgirl001 on 22 December 2011, 11:02:42 am

He'd be phoning them and hounding the Landlord, threatening him that he was going to expose him as 'gaining' from me.  He's a local guy and very respected and this was really upsetting him.  I had no idea that this had been going on for a while with them and they had hoped he would stop but then the badguy was threatening the police and they had no option but to act.

I'd be very tempted to see if the landlord is interested in making a blackmail complaint with you. How good a tenant were you?

I think it could be worth both you and the landlord going to the police about this. How realistic is being charged with profitting if you are knowlingly letting to a WG?

 i would agree with what jodie said     

Do you have an iphone, If you do then there is a great app that allows you to track pretty accuratly where someone phone is if you have there number     so if you have any texts this could be a easy option 

but you really need to try and find out who this person is  -   if you start up again whos to say that it wont start again
is it another escort with a guy doing her dirty work
is it a client
is it a ex boyfriend

Is it a friend   (dont  underestimate that one either )   You said that your friend was the one who brought it up first of all,  then all the crap started and she no longer speaks to you , so not really a friend in my opinion
maybe i watch to much csi miami  but normally the murders are someone pretty close to the victim in fact i think i read somewhere that you have more chance of being murdered by someone sat at your dinning table than by a random stranger,    When the police look at crimes they want to know who is closest to the victim , who has the most to gain,  so if its not your husband  and its not a  client or escort  then maybe its your friend   
 this person has to know an awfull lot about you to have taken it that far

Possibly your friend didnt approve wanted you to stop  and took it further   nothing in this world would surprise me  maybe she was jealous of you  earning good money  having a partner ect who accept what you do.  Did you tell her who your landlord was when she mentioned it to you     

How sure are you that your other neighbours know,  or is it just her that knows,  if so why only her  How did she find out  why did she get something  how did she get something sent to her  ,    no one really surfs adultwork unless your in this business or looking for someone,  I cant remember if  you said she said someone emailed her somthing  but if that the case  why would someone do that how would they know that she is your best friend    Clients dont know who are my best friends are and where they live !!!!
     
the easiest thing to do  if somone  wanted to harrass you would be to print of your stuff and post a letter to everyone in your street or block of flats  -   job done  why target your friends to let her know but to carry it on it really really personal   

     Top of my list would be an female  - sad to say it but it seem so  bitchy and nasty to do this  but then if you have been working from there for a year or so with no probs then it dosent really seem right  i could understand it if it you had just moved into your flat /area and so other escorts see it as competition  but you havnt 

  This person seems to have it in for you personally  from what i have read, they want you out of that flat  but  also wants you exposed ,  they told your friend neighbours ect  the question is why......

Think back  did they tell your friends /neighbours before you were aware   ie  your freind were informed before the threats started   if so  to me that seem like what  he wanted was for them to do the dirty work for him
ie out you from maybe where you lived ect make life hard for you at  home   
 
But how did they  know where you lived,   have you ever worked from home  or taken personal stuff from your house like letters to your work place    do you have your driving licence in your purse  is your purse ever left in the room with clients
   
 i dont think that by staying in a place to long is generally a problem i hav had my working flat on and off for 10 years

if you can go back to the landlord and ask as many question as possible  but i would be asking  the landlord

how did he get your landlord names  he might be well known but only to those that rent or rent from him 
 unless its someone in the same block  or maybe an escort who has rented from him in the past

Do you have the number they called you on  - even if it a pay as you phone/sim  -  if he has registered it or paid for credit with a debit /credit card at anytime he can be traced  (  the police caught a murder in this exact way  so it can be done)
 
 also if they  feels that he is in the right in what he is doing then he/She  may be using his own phone  never under estimate the stupidity of people when they believe they are in the right     

i have had the odd threating phone call from people in the past but  normaly  a curt f....off or whatever normally gets rid of them

it takes time, effort, patience, energy, and a surprisingly  a bit of inteligence/deviousness  to stalk and harrass someone the way you have been harrassed  - in  my experience  most people dont have all of these qualities    and most are content at just phone/text  crap  This person has taken the time (lots of time )
     
     
So he/She  had to find out where you lived i think as you mentioned friends knowing,  this can be done by   following you home /stealing a letter / asking neighbours

he got your  name ( im assuming here )  again by either   following you home then 5 mins on the  electrol roll, or stealing a letter/ asking neighbours
 
he had to find out your landlord name and contact number   not hard but not that easy  unless your landlord has signs outside the property for his business    so he possibly knows him

Did you receive clients in the apartment you rented?

About the IP you can check the ip address of the mail sender from any email box you use. then put it on the site www.ip-adress.com. If he mails you from home it can be easy tracked once given the ip to the police,when they have a good reason they get the specific location within a minutes.

cheers!

Due to hiding in my bed all day yesterday and then last night having to empty the flat (didn't know I had so much stuff) I haven't logged into here.

So firstly...

Thank you ALL for all your comments and support messages, you have NO idea how amazing this is for me to have this just now,  my OH who is a dear, isn't really understanding how wretched I feel.

I'm shooting out the door (catching up with all I haven't done all this week) and to hand my keys in.
But I'm going to bullet proof some things (answers to questions and so on)
Hopefully all will make sense.

1.  The flat wasn't somewhere I lived, just for rental for work.
2.  There was no complaints at all from neighbours.
3.  Thank you Jodie, I hadn't thought in the longer term of it 'might be ME' so that is something to consider VERY carefully.  There are a lot of references to the flat, and it mostly was on my mind that this was the issue.  Was it someone living closely to the flat or someone who actually wants the flat.  It was a cracking wee place, with a mezzanine floor and amazing location to shops and own parking.  Everyone commented how nice it was.
4. sorry - can't remember who said what!  Someone mentioned all this shit has started since my friend 'F' found out.  Thats true.  I don't think its her, it's not her style but she did say 'everyone' knows, so it could be someone closer to home.
5. whats the iPhone thingy app?
6. Some lovely lady before tried to help me with the IP thing (I'm not computer savvy) but it stops with a 1-2-1 and can't get any further.
7.  No idea if the emailer and the texter are one and the same person.
8.  I'm deaf so phone calls are out and text only is available.  This alone will alert the guy if he indeed has met me due to my 'text only' response to phone calls.  This is where Mr Jodie comments came in useful.
9.  I'm on my way out to Landlord, as I said but now I am going to ask for more information about WHO did the 'cliping' and WHAT exact information that the Landlord and agents have.
10. The Landlord is a local business man and very well respected and wanted me out.  No question about it.  I wasn't happy about continuing anyway there due to no knowing what was going on.  I think moving out was the best thing to do in this instance.  I know it gives in to the knobhead but I think safety here was the issue.
11. Maybe its good to have Christmas just now as it gives me 2 weeks off to recharge.  Also now don't feel I have to work and justify the flats expense.
12. Back to Mr J, I'm maybe going to have to be on more alert to my safety here, particularly BECAUSE of my deafness?  (another trial to bear)
13.  Mellow, I need some advice where to do the uglymugs and how to do it (PM me please)
14. After the 2 texts warning me to get out, nothing since, I was expecting some gloating, or maybe he thinks I am still there?

I can't think of anything else just now.  I will say again, thank you so much for everything to all of you, even the ones who are reading this and thinking OMG thats terrible, (it is) and how awful ( it is) and poor cow (I am)
so lots of love, I wish I could have you all here and give you champagne and have a drunken cuddle and a damn good cry xxxxxxxxx

As far as I know, provided that only one lady is working from the premises (in other words it's not a brothel), a landlord is committing no offence by knowingly letting to her. If the landlord is a tenant rather than an owner it's different, and I'm assuming that the law in Scotland is the same as the law in England here which it may not be, but if this is the case I would strongly recommend this too - the police take a dim enough view of blackmail as it is even when only one person is involved.

From what I can see, the law is annoyingly different in Scotland - the prostitution bits of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 do not apply there, so they are still on the previous law, albeit re-enacted in the Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995.

It's section 11 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/39/part/I/crossheading/procuring-prostitution-etc:

11. Trading in prostitution and brothel-keeping.(1)Every male person who?
(a)knowingly lives wholly or in part on the earnings of prostitution;
..

In this case until the blackmail, there was no knowledge = the landlord was fine.

Now he does know, is taking rent living on the earnings of prostitution? Dunno, it depends on Scottish case law, but quite possibly not - you have to pay rent regardless of how many clients you have, including none.

Interestingly, as in England and Wales, there's no offence to letting a property you own to a single sex worker:

(5)Any person who?
..
(b)being the tenant, lessee, occupier or person in charge of any premises, knowingly permits such premises or any part thereof to be used as a brothel or for the purposes of habitual prostitution; or
(c)being the lessor or landlord of any premises, or the agent of such lessor or landlord, lets the same or any part thereof with the knowledge that such premises or some part thereof are or is to be used as a brothel, or is wilfully a party to the continued use of such premises or any part thereof as a brothel,
..

- tenants etc can't allow 'habitual prostitution' , but in one of those bits of class prejudice, landlords can.

The huge advantage of going to the police with the landlord is the extra respectability it brings and the increased chance that the police will do something.

Sorrry  to ask scottish girl but  how long have you been working on the internet .
 
the reason i ask is that in the email that mr j or whatever the f... his name is mentions that he should have exposed you a few years back with the chinease hookers but thought that they were more interesting   

just wondered if they/him whoever the f.... really dose know you or just  clutching at straws
 
because  if they were doing something on chinese hookers a few years ago why has  it taken this long to get to you   it still seems personal  at you not at you as a escort if that makes sense   
 
But if you have only been working a  a year or so  then  the person that sent you the email dont really know you cos you wernt working when they did whatever to the chinease hookers   dose that make sense ( and if there ever were any chinease hookers to start with 

i honestly cant see someone ie a client or an escort going this far just to get you out of your flat   you will only set up again so whats the point maybe other girls in your area are having the same problems  it might be worth emailing them and asking them if they  have had similar things happen or if they recognise the email address that it was sent from         

thats good because at least you are narrowing it down a bit and eliminating people ,  you may find that you dont find out who did  it to you or what sparked it off either but at least it seems to have stopped now your not working from the flat
     
To be fair most  long time /full time escorts  have probably had a incident or two with either clients /landlords other escorts   ect it pretty much and ocupational hazzard of this work and sometime there is bugger all your can do  but  deal with it the best way you can 
   
    A few years ago in the space of 4 months i was kicked out of 2 working flats   by neighbours  who  actually switched off the intercom in the building so we couldnt use it,   and by the owner of another flat that i rented  who was a retired policeman      The policeman took all my stuff out of the flat gave it to his friend who was a working policeman and i had to go to the local police station and collect all my sex toys lap dancing pole pvc ect   

have a good xmas though and try to put it all behind you now and start fresh in the new year