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Evergreen85

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How much to get a start
« on: 08 February 2016, 10:53:19 am »
Hey girls,

first off, I'd just like to say that this forum is an absolute godsend!! I'm soooo happy I found it, I've been browsing for a couple of days now feeling like I finally found a whole bunch of friends here <3

I've researched the forum and there's a ton of info here, but I'd still like to ask for advice (or perhaps rather reassurance).

I started escorting a month ago; as I'm a newbie I figured I'd try an agency first and my first one was an absolute nightmare. It was owned by a guy who would make the girls sleep with him for free; he'd call it 'training' or he'd claim to be a 'good friend' or whatever, so I got the hell out of there because it was absolutely unacceptable. The other 3 girls working there were 18-20 years old, I think the sleazebag was grooming them or something...anyway it was horrendous and I wish I never went there in the first place!!!

I then applied for a couple of agencies with super glossy websites, but the thing is, I'm a size 14 with lots of tattoos and long blonde dreadlocks so I was told my look was not what they were looking for.

So I decided to try a parlour. On the one hand, it was nice because the (female) owner was really friendly and supportive, and the other girls working there were lovely; the place was very nice and clean, I felt perfectly safe. But on a busy night, I'd see 8 - 12 clients, and usually more than half of them weren't exactly nice-super drunk and smelly, drunk and smelly, drunk and rude, or they'd push for services I don't do. Now the owner had no problem if I refused clients, but if I didn't want to do the super drunk or smelly ones I found I'd only get 2-3 per day, and usually 15min/half an hour ones so after paying my parlour fees I wasn't making much money at all.

I am now with an agency that likes variety and had no problem with my size, tattoos and dreadlocks; I've done 2 shifts with them and I think I'd do quite well, but I feel like they wouldn't be very happy if I declined bookings, they are sort of passive aggresively trying to make me do much more shifts than I want to, and though the manager is nice I'm not very happy paying them the 30% plus another 20% to the driver for outcalls. Plus, I'm 31 years old, I really hate putting up with bullshit from clients, I just feel like I don't have the patience for the weirdos, the rude ones and the ones who apparently are incapable of taking a shower.

So the only reasonable thing to do here is to go independent, obviously, but I'm a bit insecure if my looks would attract enough business. 100% of my parlour/agency clients loved me, in fact I already have a regular with my current agency after only 2 days there, so I think I'm pretty good at this and I do genuinely enjoy it if the client is nice, friendly, respectful and clean; I'm sure that they'll be happy with the experience once they see me, but the thing is, since I'm very alternative looking-how can I make sure they DO choose to see me in the first place?I'm very anxious about it. I know that variety is the key and that all shapes, sizes and looks attract clients but I still feel super insecure!!

And second-I'm still struggling with money. I was totally skint when I started, so I have paid off my rent debt etc by now and I have only saved a couple hundred pounds. My question is, should I stick with my current agency for another month or so to save enough $$$ for renting an incall appartment, getting good photos and website and having money for another month or two just in case the business will be slow, or should I just take the plunge, create an AW profile and only do outcalls for now, and hope for the best? I really really want to be able to choose my clients and working hours and keep all my earnings to myself, but at the same time, I am super anxious about not getting business and going skint again...

Any words of wisdom?

And sorry for the long post, I just really needed to get this off my chest...

Thanks guys!! Evie xxx



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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #1 on: 08 February 2016, 12:33:14 pm »
Theres a number of threads covering a lot of what you are asking.  Try this one:

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=31110.0       and this one     http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=31119.0

I started escorting a month ago; as I'm a newbie I figured I'd try an agency first and my first one was an absolute nightmare. It was owned by a guy who would make the girls sleep with him for free; he'd call it 'training' or he'd claim to be a 'good friend' or whatever, so I got the hell out of there because it was absolutely unacceptable. The other 3 girls working there were 18-20 years old, I think the sleazebag was grooming them or something...anyway it was horrendous and I wish I never went there in the first place!!!

Please please can you post a warning about this guy in the Warnings Section or at least give out his details via PM, so other vulnerable newbies won't get caught out by this sleazebag.

I really really want to be able to choose my clients and working hours and keep all my earnings to myself, but at the same time, I am super anxious about not getting business and going skint again...

I'm afraid you can't have it both ways!  There's always a risk, you must weigh those up yourself.  Certainly theres no harm in setting up AW for outcalls and keeping on your agency if you are worried.

Good luck.

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #2 on: 08 February 2016, 12:44:14 pm »
I presume you have had a look online at other ladies who work?If so then you will have seen that we all come in different shapes and sizes so no reason to be insecure in your looks.
You don't need fancy photos you can do good selfies to start with.As has been said you could try out only doing outcalls for now to get some money together and maybe do the odd incall day in a hotel?

Evergreen85

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #3 on: 09 February 2016, 09:11:02 am »
Thanks for the replies you guys!

My agency is pretty strict about working with them only, so setting up an AW profile for outcalls would mean I'd risk getting the sack. I have to either work with them some more till I save enough for a few months, or quit asap and try going independent. If I do try it now, I could only do outcalls as I have no spare $$$ for a hotel or apartment, and I get the inpression that most guys want incalls, right?..

Just feeling very very anxious and unsure what to do:(

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #4 on: 09 February 2016, 01:29:11 pm »
Your agency has some odd ideas; you don't work for them, it's the other way round?

That is unless they're offering proper terms and conditions regarding PAYE, holiday allowance, maternity leave and everything else which comes with taking on actual staff in the real world. Since pimping is illegal even in the usual way where you are self employed and engaging them as your agent to find you work, I doubt they're going to create even more of a paper trail than they already have.

We all know here that a pimp will 'punish' anybody who doesn't toe the line by withholding work and so on, which is as good a reason as any not to have one, but even if you do want to keep it up for now (to use their incall space, or whatever) you can surely find one without such bizarre ideas about their station in the world :).

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #5 on: 09 February 2016, 08:17:01 pm »
Evergreen would you mind PMing me with info about your parlour experiences? I've worked privately and in parlours abroad but not in the UK. I've recently had a baby and am thinking about working in a parlour in a few months; as I feel it would be the easiest way to sort out Childcare. Once I have a bit of money together I would consider going independent and doing incalls from hotels.
Basically I'd like to know how long your shifts were, how many shifts the parlour would like you to work per week, and how much money you would get from a standard client. Also if you don't mind PMing me what area you were working in? (I'm based in the South West).

Anyway in response to your question when I worked privately in Australia I used self taken photos and escorting sites popular in Aus. I bought nice lingerie and mainly did out calls. So I didn't need much money to set up, maybe a few hundred dollars for some nice sets.

« Last Edit: 09 February 2016, 08:20:56 pm by Esme1994 »

Evergreen85

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #6 on: 10 February 2016, 12:54:44 am »
Loved your post Amy ;D thing is, i have applied to other agencies but this is the only one that doesn't mind my size 14, tattoos, and dreadlocks. All the other ones i applied to said thanks but no thanks as they're looking for model girls.

I guess I'll just have to tough it out for a couple of months, save some money and then go indie-I guess I'm just too chicken to quit now and risk getting behind my rent again:(

Thanks for the idea Esme.PM'd you about parlours.

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #7 on: 10 February 2016, 05:09:19 am »
I've just gone 100%  indie a few weeks ago, before I did a mix of bdsm parlour and indie. At the parlour, it was 65% for the house and 35% for me. And after a few weeks of only working indie I resent myself for not choosing indie earlier. I rather give 40% to my taxes (Im from Holland) then to a dungeon who only wanted me to work longer hours all the time.
Its up to you, but if you do it on your own, you will earn more and for everybody there is a niche market. I'm a size 12 and I offer dominatrix services and I do quite well.

Wishing you all the best in the choices you'll make.

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #8 on: 10 February 2016, 05:13:36 am »
Just forgot to add: when I went indie I had not much money left on my bank account but I have rented a few dungeons and a hotel and made a great profit. Sometimes its worth it to take the plunge.

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Re: How much to get a start
« Reply #9 on: 11 February 2016, 07:33:24 pm »
I have NEVER worked for and agency, and I NEVER will. What I earn is mine and I sure as hell won't be giving out my earnings to anyone, except the tax man.

Get yourself on to Adultwork, have a browse through the profiles to give you an idea of what kind of services girls are offering, what their photography is like and how much effort they put into their profiles. DO NOT COPY THEM HOWEVER. This will also let you know of the ball point rate girls are charging in your area. AW is not the only place to advertise, but I have found it to be the best. Through AW you can also charge clients to view photos and movies, which is a great extra little earner.

There are numerous articles here on how to make more money via AW or how to increase your exposure. There are no fees involved with AW, unless you want to do things like display your phone number, be included in the local escort search or be advertised as AVAILABLE but even this is very cheap in comparison to agencies and you can probably cover all costs with what you make through photo sales.

Me personally? I created my profile by myself, I take all my own photos and videos, I organise my bookings by myself and before I got a work flat, arranged all my accommodation. Just like many other girls here. So what do you need an agency for exactly?!!