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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Curvygal on 05 July 2015, 02:40:42 pm
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This came up in another thread, but I've just found out the reason why:
talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mastercard-dumps-backpage
You can pay with bitcoin but I don't actually know how it works?
Does anyone have any other thoughts on how to pay now?
[Link made non-clickable!]
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This came up in another thread, but I've just found out the reason why:
http:// talkingpointsmemo .com/news/mastercard-dumps-backpage
You can pay with bitcoin but I don't actually know how it works?
Does anyone have any other thoughts on how to pay now?
I've edited the link so it's not live. Very interesting!
"[T]he unfettered proliferation of websites like Backpage.com has provided this violent industry with a mask of normalcy, driving demand ever higher and increasing the enslavement of prostituted individuals, including children," Dart wrote, alleging that in more than 800 cases where his office responded to Backpage ads, every investigation led to an arrest.
The above makes it sound like 100% of 800 investigations led to an arrest for "enslavement... including children." I'll bet the vast majority were indies like us.
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Backpage seem to accept only one card now. Pay Safe
Take a look at Trustpilot & Review centre reviews.
I've never used them so I don't know what's accurate or not.
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Well won't be using Backpage anymore :(
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I have just bought credits on my Amex card, without the slightest problem. The backpage payment page is also still displaying the Visa symbol.
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I just payed with my debit card too (has a little visa logo) on my card and had no problem. I think this is happening in the US, not Europe.
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Oh so they changed the payment form to show only 2 USA options
but it's actually ok here?
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I'm UK and I had trouble trying to renew my ad. I'm sure they'll sort something out. Bit coins are a pain in the bum to buy, i've forgotten how to get them and don't really know how to buy them from a trusted site. I know some etsy sellers offer it, it is supposed to be the up coming internet currency, but it's the back story I don't like , they were made to buy drugs on the online black market wern't they
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Well bitcoin has been around for seven years to my knowledge and is nothing new, but the major problem with it has generally been the lack of stability - the value fluctuates so wildly that what you spend fifty quid on on Monday could be worth ?200 on Wednesday and then 27p on Friday, if you get the idea.
I have no idea whether that aspect has improved, although I would imagine it has since it can't have got any worse. Bitcoin has indeed been used to pay for illegal items on the internet including drugs, but to say it was 'invented' for this purpose is a bit like saying banknotes were invented so that people could buy drugs with them in pub toilets, just because sometimes they do. It's a peer to peer electronic payment system, that's all.
If anybody's tried bitcoin with Backpage I'd be interested to hear about it, and not just because it'll get the thread back on topic :).
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"If anybody's tried bitcoin with Backpage I'd be interested to hear about it..."
Me too. ???
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I just payed with my debit card too (has a little visa logo) on my card and had no problem. I think this is happening in the US, not Europe.
No it's UK too. I tried to pay with my mastercard and got a message saying they are no longer accepting it. I don't know about debit cards right enough, maybe I should try that.
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I just payed with my debit card too (has a little visa logo) on my card and had no problem. I think this is happening in the US, not Europe.
No it's UK too. I tried to pay with my mastercard and got a message saying they are no longer accepting it. I don't know about debit cards right enough, maybe I should try that.
They are accepting visa (I have visa), and they still have the visa logo on the payment section. I guess visa doesn't have a problem with backpage but mastercard does? I see they have removed the mastercard logo...
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Sorry, just read the OP's link and it sez that it's mastercard AND visa having a "problem" with backpage. But I just payed for my ad with visa yesterday??
:o
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Sorry, just read the OP's link and it sez that it's mastercard AND visa having a "problem" with backpage. But I just payed for my ad with visa yesterday??
:o
I paid with my Visa card this morning.
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Is it maybe that Visa debit cards are ok but not credit cards?
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Is it maybe that Visa debit cards are ok but not credit cards?
I have no idea but all of a sudden the New York escort section of Backpage that used to be like 10 pages long each day has been reduced to one and a half pages. So something is going on that for sure.
Is Visa going to apply the same policy to Backpage Europe? Taaa-dannn! Let's all cross our fingers.
Bitcoin=Nightmare. :FF
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While I haven't used btc for BP ads, I've used it for other things. It's not a nightmare and not nearly as complicated as people make it out to be. However, you really do need to read up a little bit to understand it. Many legitimate businesses use btc and the numbers are growing. You can even book hotels and flights [link removed - please don't post these here].
Worried about price fluctuations? Just buy only what you need and use for that. I've been working with btc for a few years and never had a problem. Just sorry I didn't buy it earlier when I found out about it a few years and hold it.
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Visa 3v vouchers still working too! Buy from paypoint outlets using cash, but long but at least its anonymous
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I have the 3V vouchers and a Visa card. I tested them both out and received the following message.
Payment Update - Visa is no longer accepted as of July 6th
Same here.
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Paid with 3v visa yesterday but told not today.
Will they take money via western union
Apart from Visa and Mastercard are there any other credit card companies
How do you use Bitcoin
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If nobody can pay then they will die off as punters will look, see no girls, and look elsewhere.
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I try to registrate with paysafe cards and it's proven to be a nightmare. They say that you will get a pin code in your phone but you will never get it. They have no customer service whatsoever. When you read the paysafe reviews on the internet they are awful, nobody got this infamous pin code. And all the gazillion reviews say paysafe cards are a scam.
You can buy the cards on some newsagents, my question is: Can you use the paysafe cards to pay and NOT be registered in their website?
???
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While I haven't used btc for BP ads, I've used it for other things. It's not a nightmare and not nearly as complicated as people make it out to be. However, you really do need to read up a little bit to understand it. Many legitimate businesses use btc and the numbers are growing. You can even book hotels and flights [link removed - please don't post these here].
Worried about price fluctuations? Just buy only what you need and use for that. I've been working with btc for a few years and never had a problem. Just sorry I didn't buy it earlier when I found out about it a few years and hold it.
Just reading your message and am curious to know do you actually buy money using your visa card.
it seems like there no real money involved
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No, I don't buy money using my Visa card, when did I say that? I buy bitcoins using cash. You can find out about various ways of buying and using bitcoins by reading up on it. I don't want to post anymore links because it is against forum policy. Just google it -- that's how I learned.
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I went to my bank to ask how to buy bitcoins and all the staff (manager included) looked at me with the most surprise face. They have never heard of bitcoin.
Go figure.
:FF :FF
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There's a very interesting article in Forbes magazine regarding bitcoin...
forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2013/04/03/four-reason-you-shouldnt-buy-bitcoins/
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You did it with Paysafe ...well done Ana!
My mate makes bitcoins in his living room.
Maybe I should give him a ring and pick his brains.....lol
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They have now updated that they accept amex cards. American express sell gift cards at Sainsbury stores ( the larger ones) so that could be a temporary workaround
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They have now updated that they accept amex cards. American express sell gift cards at Sainsbury stores ( the larger ones) so that could be a temporary workaround
Don't think so. Amex also pulled out (based on the media articles regarding this issue).
newsbtc.com/2015/07/02/credit-cards-ban-usage-on-backpage-sex-ads-bitcoin-payments-accepted/
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Quoting the above article:
"With that, Cook county sheriff Thomas Dart asked credit card companies to remove their association from the services offered in Backpage.com?s adult section. ?Visa?s rules prohibit our network from being used for illegal activity,? said Visa spokesman John Earnhardt"
Spokespersons for both MasterCard and American Express have also confirmed their discontinuation of services related to the website. However, bitcoin payments are still accepted by the website, which Dart says would make it more difficult to catch perpetrators."
Ok. So let me get this right:with credit cards it was easy to trace down the dodgy pimps and any illegal activity but now with bitcoin they just made it literally impossible. Thank you visa, mastercard and Sheriff dart for making the world a more unsafe place for vulnerable women.
Unbelievable.
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:-*I wrote a how to use bitcoin to pay for ads blog post that's being passed around, might be helpful [link removed - again, please don't post these here]
Ads are free atm, just have to manually bump them or you can try the promo code FREESPEECH. #chargeisdeclined on twitter has heaps of info too xx
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I tried that promo code and it didn't work. Comments under the article on TitsAndSass said the same for others... but it may be that it's working in Australia or maybe the US.
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Paid using amex gift card yesterday and today so perhaps they negotiated something, sure they will start losing clients if they don't start accepting standard cards soon though x
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It's pay safe & bitcoin only now
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Is it maybe that Visa debit cards are ok but not credit cards?
I have no idea but all of a sudden the New York escort section of Backpage that used to be like 10 pages long each day has been reduced to one and a half pages. So something is going on that for sure.
Is Visa going to apply the same policy to Backpage Europe? Taaa-dannn! Let's all cross our fingers.
Bitcoin=Nightmare. :FF
It's probably because they are trying to boycott the adult section of backpage which has been the reason why some escorts have met their demise according to this article I just read.
Apparently Craig's list had to shut down their adult sections for the same reasons and scenario. Wonder if it will affect the UK adult section also.
Sad really!
www. foxnews.com/us/2015/07/08/massachusetts-attorney-general-calls-on-backpage-to-shut-down-adult-section/
[link made non-clickable and quotes fixed. Can we remember to NOT post live links please!]
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UPDATE
I have accessed backlash today to post new ads and new ads and move to the top of listings are currently FREE
I have no idea how long this will last but take advantage!
And yes you are correct t the amex option has now gone x
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You mean...moving to top of listings is currently free or posting an ad is free also??
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UPDATE
I have accessed backlash today to post new ads and new ads and move to the top of listings are currently FREE
I have no idea how long this will last but take advantage!
And yes you are correct t the amex option has now gone x
oh lord. You're right. It's going to be a spam nightmare. I don't think this is going to last long though. The ads you still have to pay for them.
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OMG! Im trying it.
My GF told me earlier and I couldn't figure it out.
Maybe they don't want their customers wandering off.
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Sadly this won't be the last time something like this happens
Any American based company, we chance things like this happening or worse as sadly the companies are at the mercy of their countries own laws.
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still testing it.....its a bit unpredicatable
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It was free to repost last night seems to be charging again for it.
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Bitcoin is very unstable, but when I use it I buy the amount I need (usually ?1 or so more as it changes constantly) and use it as soon as it clears. Do not hold on to any if you can help it unless you like really risky gambling.
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They are now back to charging but the London prices for posting of mice to top if the listing had dropped from $2 to $1 which would be good news except you can only pay by paysafe or bitcoin, will wait and see what happens next..
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Just paid for some more credits with my Amex. No worries. But I have been taking advantage of some free posting. ;)
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So I just posted a add on back page and it was completely free, I'm now concerned that I won't get any clients, free advertising just seems to good to be true, how has backpage worked for you?
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So I just posted a add on back page and it was completely free, I'm now concerned that I won't get any clients, free advertising just seems to good to be true, how has backpage worked for you?
It's not free in London. I when I post I get the bitcoin or payfree option, and they charge me as usual. >:( Which city are you in?
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Got an email from them 2 days ago, all ads/move on top are free for now. Dont know about London, but in Bristol its free.
Hey there,
We hope you've enjoyed posting for free over the last couple of days.
It's free to post in all categories.
HOW FREE ADS WORK:
Free and paid ads initially post into the same section and sort by date. After a grace period, free ads change position to the Additional Ads section below the paid ads.
NEW:
Upgrade prices have been lowered. For example, you can now Move to the Top for free once every 24 hours. Each additional Move to the Top within a 24 hour period is ?1.00.
PAYMENTS:
Many users are are purchasing credits and paying for upgrades with Bitcoin.
Thanks for posting with us.
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Backpage is free in America...temporarily anyway. I posted a test ad this morning and I got an email saying 'to make your post live please confirm email'
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Backpage is free in America...temporarily anyway. I posted a test ad this morning and I got an email saying 'to make your post live please confirm email'
True. It's free in New York, in Bristol and in many more places but you have to pay to post in London :FF :FF :FF
WTF.
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So I just posted a add on back page and it was completely free, I'm now concerned that I won't get any clients, free advertising just seems to good to be true, how has backpage worked for you?
It's not free in London. I when I post I get the bitcoin or payfree option, and they charge me as usual. >:( Which city are you in?
Babes I'm in London, maybe it's because it's my first post.
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So I just posted a add on back page and it was completely free, I'm now concerned that I won't get any clients, free advertising just seems to good to be true, how has backpage worked for you?
It's not free in London. I when I post I get the bitcoin or payfree option, and they charge me as usual. >:( Which city are you in?
Babes I'm in London, maybe it's because it's my first post.
Mmmm.. tried again this morning from a different e-mail account (instead of my usual one). No free ads for me. It's all bitcoin or payfreecard. I did posted for free in Manhattan (lol).
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I had no joy trying to post an ad in Oxford recently. I'm tired of trying to post an ad there and I won't bother, now. Busy enough with Vivastreet and AW.
Maybe they should consider taking UKash vouchers?
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Viva street is so expensive and seen as I am just starting out I just can't afford it, how much custom do you guys get on back page?
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Viva street is so expensive and seen as I am just starting out I just can't afford it, how much custom do you guys get on back page?
In some places, a little bit. Got a handful in Manchester, a handful in London, some in Oxford. It varies by town how well it will work.
Vivastreet definitely is expensive. However, AW can be free: either you don't post a phone number and rely entirely on being found and emailed or you put up a private gallery of fanny shots and let the credits pay for phone number, local search, and Available Today.
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I had no joy trying to post an ad in Oxford recently. I'm tired of trying to post an ad there and I won't bother, now. Busy enough with Vivastreet and AW.
Maybe they should consider taking UKash vouchers?
Backpage used to be an American company started by the Village voice media then got sold to another company that based themselves in Holland (this was done on purpose for obvious legal reasons). I'm sure those guys in Holland are going nuts right now because this was a company that was profiting with millions every day and since the last week when visa and mastercard pulled out they are making a small fraction of that money. So I'm sure they're considering all possibilities. Sounds like paypal, UKcash et al don't want to get involved. I believe it's completely crazy what they're doing because at least with credit cards there was a way to trace down the bad apples, now with bitcoin and paysafe all is going "underground" and there's no way of tracing trafficking.
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Viva street is so expensive and seen as I am just starting out I just can't afford it, how much custom do you guys get on back page?
In some places, a little bit. Got a handful in Manchester, a handful in London, some in Oxford. It varies by town how well it will work.
Vivastreet definitely is expensive. However, AW can be free: either you don't post a phone number and rely entirely on being found and emailed or you put up a private gallery of fanny shots and let the credits pay for phone number, local search, and Available Today.
I have been on aw for almost 2 months, I have my number up and only use available today when I can do incalls I also feature my profile in my area, and have a small private gallery and do webcam and phone calls for extra credit! But because I am outcalls mostly I wanted to advertise more.
If I could get a regular place to do incalls it wouldn't be so hard :FF
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I'm loving backpage.I seem to get the Americans and the Londoners that are used to using it making bookings when they are in Leeds and it still seems to be allowing me to repost once a day for free.
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I am along time user of back page, I tried to sign up for the pay safe stuff and it was done in seconds, really easy but failing that all you do is go to a pay point and get a top up card and enter the code online and its done, you don't actually have to sign up for an account.
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I'm loving backpage.I seem to get the Americans and the Londoners that are used to using it making bookings when they are in Leeds and it still seems to be allowing me to repost once a day for free.
I get quite a few Americans too and I'm based in London. Still moving post to top of page for ?0.00 too - you gotta love Backpage.
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I got an email from BP saying that my accounts credit has increased to $100 and I can increase it by sending a money order to an American address. I think it's possibly legit but obviously mailing money orders to America isn't something I could do.
did anyone else get this email?
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I got an email from BP saying that my accounts credit has increased to $100 and I can increase it by sending a money order to an American address. I think it's possibly legit but obviously mailing money orders to America isn't something I could do.
did anyone else get this email?
Yes, everybody got it. It's a scam.
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I got an email from BP saying that my accounts credit has increased to $100 and I can increase it by sending a money order to an American address. I think it's possibly legit but obviously mailing money orders to America isn't something I could do.
did anyone else get this email?
Yes, everybody got it. It's a scam.
I wonder if any Americans actually fell for it?
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I tried to do the whole bitcoin thing, got so confused and spent like half a day doing it, never managed it in the end
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I tried to do the whole bitcoin thing, got so confused and spent like half a day doing it, never managed it in the end
I bought ?50 worth of bitcoin and I've been using it to bump my own backpage ad and those of some friends when they're not letting us do it for free. It seems like if you only bump once every few days the price is set as ?0.00. Can I explain how to buy bitcoin on here? Not sure if that will be ok with mods or not. Or PM me if you like.
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I think you can explain it so long as you don't post any links. You're just explaining something that we may all need to do at some point if this shit keeps happening to advertising venues.
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I think you can explain it so long as you don't post any links. You're just explaining something that we may all need to do at some point if this shit keeps happening to advertising venues.
Yes explaining it's fine but please keep it brief and straightforward (you'll need to anyway for those unable to just Google and find out for themselves).
Obviously no links, and no protracted discussion about it, please - again, there are more suitable places online to discuss currency in detail :).
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I think you can explain it so long as you don't post any links. You're just explaining something that we may all need to do at some point if this shit keeps happening to advertising venues.
Yes explaining it's fine but please keep it brief and straightforward (you'll need to anyway for those unable to just Google and find out for themselves).
Obviously no links, and no protracted discussion about it, please - again, there are more suitable places online to discuss currency in detail :).
ok, cool. I use a site called localbitcoins. Recently a lot of the sellers on there are asking that new buyers send a picture of themselves holding their ID and or bankcard. Other's may know of a site that doesn't ask for this. If so I'd be interested to hear. I found a seller on there that didn't ask for this. PM me if you'd like his username. You just register then login and enter the amount you want to buy and it lists sellers who will sell you this amount. You can filter the results eg limit them to those who accept bank transfer. You then choose a seller and agree to their rate and they respond with their sort code and account number. You go to your internet banking, transfer the agreed amount then let them know you've paid. The bitcoins then appear in your localbitcoin account. On backpage you click to pay with bitcoin and they give you a code and the amount you need to pay. Just go back to localbitcoin and enter that amount with the code and once backpage receives it, they'll bump your ad.
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Aussie, how long does it take for backpage to receive the money once you pay & post??
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Also: Bitcoin sounds pretty dodgy because it's not government regulated, meaning: You can transfer someone 100 pounds and if the seller decides not to give you the bitcoin there's nobody/nowhere to compaint and you just lost 100 quid...
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I tried to do the whole bitcoin thing, got so confused and spent like half a day doing it, never managed it in the end
I bought ?50 worth of bitcoin and I've been using it to bump my own backpage ad and those of some friends when they're not letting us do it for free. It seems like if you only bump once every few days the price is set as ?0.00. Can I explain how to buy bitcoin on here? Not sure if that will be ok with mods or not. Or PM me if you like.
The price to bump a profile on backpage is currently 0, as they said in their emails to us. I got such an email and I move my ad on top for free :)
Ive recently used my Ffrees prepaid card to pay my ad on backpage and they took the payment. The credits are still in my backpage account, as the ads are free since they started to have problems.
[suspicious]18/07/2015 18/07/2015 European POS charges -0.03 xxx
18/07/2015 16/07/2015 ADS*BRISTOL, AMSTERDAM, NL, USD 2.00 FX 0.645 CD 5825 -1.28 xxx
17/07/2015 17/07/2015 European POS charges -0.06 xxx
17/07/2015 15/07/2015 ADS*NATIONAL, AMSTERDAM, NL, USD 5.00 FX 0.646 CD 5825 -3.21 xxx
09/07/2015 05/07/2015 ADS*BRISTOL, AMSTERDAM, NL CD 5825 -1.00 xxx[/suspicious]
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I emailed pam asking she said it wasn't her doing and to complain to the card issuers. Here is the article explaining. usatoday.com/story/money/2015/07/01/visa-mastercard-stop-business-with-backpage/29558315/
[link made non-clickable, merged with relevant thread]
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I am along time user of back page, I tried to sign up for the pay safe stuff and it was done in seconds, really easy but failing that all you do is go to a pay point and get a top up card and enter the code online and its done, you don't actually have to sign up for an account.
Ah, so you don't actually HAVE to have the physical card, but online registration will do?
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I am along time user of back page, I tried to sign up for the pay safe stuff and it was done in seconds, really easy but failing that all you do is go to a pay point and get a top up card and enter the code online and its done, you don't actually have to sign up for an account.
Ah, so you don't actually HAVE to have the physical card, but online registration will do?
There is a paysafe app or you can just register on line when you have the vouchers enter the 16 digit pin the amount on the voucher is then credited to your account
Then on BP you just click on pay with Paysafe log in and pay for the add
But you can use paysafe to pay for other stuff as well not just backpage
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Excellent, thank you Paris!
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Nope, why can't I do it? Went on to the paysafecard website, thinking I could just pay for virtual vouchers using one of my credit cards, but the system wants to send me a card (in Euro denomination) that I can then load online. I tried via the sales outlets on their website by inputting my post code and then actually going to a couple of the outlets (typically newsagents). The first one in the Fulham Road told me they "no longer" do it, the second one at Notting Hill Gate just looked at me blank, and had no idea what I was talking about.
What am I doing wrong?
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Nope, why can't I do it? Went on to the paysafecard website, thinking I could just pay for virtual vouchers using one of my credit cards, but the system wants to send me a card (in Euro denomination) that I can then load online. I tried via the sales outlets on their website by inputting my post code and then actually going to a couple of the outlets (typically newsagents). The first one in the Fulham Road told me they "no longer" do it, the second one at Notting Hill Gate just looked at me blank, and had no idea what I was talking about.
What am I doing wrong?
Google "paysafe points" in your city. Call them up and make sure they sell PS vouchers. Then walk to the newsagent in question and get a voucher.
That worked for me.
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Damnations, will keep at it. Much prefer backpage to vivastreet. Thanks Ana
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Nope, why can't I do it? Went on to the paysafecard website, thinking I could just pay for virtual vouchers using one of my credit cards, but the system wants to send me a card (in Euro denomination) that I can then load online. I tried via the sales outlets on their website by inputting my post code and then actually going to a couple of the outlets (typically newsagents). The first one in the Fulham Road told me they "no longer" do it, the second one at Notting Hill Gate just looked at me blank, and had no idea what I was talking about.
What am I doing wrong?
I found the same when tried to buy online. Usually look for a paypoint they should do it. It is easy paying cash keeping it topped up. Then iy lasts a while before topping up again.
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So is it actually called paysafe. Is it the same as UKash?
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It is like a paper reciet that comes with a set of numbers you enter online. Then it adds to your account. The other backpage payment method looks complicated compared. This is the quickest way of doing it.
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Ok, I'll keep at it. I wish backpage found some simpler solution.
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Some shops do it but don't realise they do it
I actually took a picture of the paysafe app to my shop to show them what I wsnted
There is over 20 shops inc a Asdas that all say on the app they do paysafe but I only found 1 shop after looking around
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I went Spar for mine.
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Stoked! I found a place in Chelsea. Once you have your voucher, it's super easy to top up your backpage credits. Thanks everybody for bearing with me.
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Not possible to pay with paysafe anymore.
I keep getting a "Failed to create paysafe card invoice". I've tried all different browsers and I can't post.
is anyone having the same problem?
thanx
Ana
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It's official now: You can only pay with bitcoin in backpage. No more running to the newstand to get paysafe vouchers.
:FF :FF :FF
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I'm not comfortable with bitcoin. I hope this doesn't happen to other sites.
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That seems ridiculous - how many people want to fanny about with bitcoins?!
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That seems ridiculous - how many people want to fanny about with bitcoins?!
There's a new youtube tutorial "Bitcoin for dummies" -courtesy of backpage- in the payment section where some young pretty gal explains you how to buy bitcoin and describes the "fantastic advantages of bitcoin versus credit cards" (yeah right). That means that Backpage is having issues with paysafe -for whatever reason- and definately WANTS us to use Bitcoin from now on.
Seriously... I can't keep up with technology anymore. It overwhelms me:FF
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Backpage has truckloads of spammers posting 24/7 so
presumably they have the know-how with bitcoins.
I'm not going to bother,
I can't say I miss Backpage that much though.
The spamfest has lowered the standard of clients Backpage attracts.
Too bad they can't be arssed to police their site better...clients look elsewhere.
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I was having trouble with using pay Safe several times until it accepted. Then noticed at the bottom to only use bit coins. All the hassle with bitcoins. It put me right off, its like climbing a mountain just to pay.
After browsing here should have blown alot on backpage that will be my next attempt.
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All of a sudden the paysafe option has been "restored", but since yesterday (and for 24hrs) it was not working. I had already registered with Paxul, talked with a few bitcoin sellers and was about to take the plunge. problem is that non of the bitcoin sellers will give you their real identity -but will ask you to e-mail them a government ID scan-. Then there's the guy who wants you to pay through western union, another one through paypal e-gifts and another who wants to meet you in person and have you handle him the money. it's all like very "secretive" and none of them want to give you too many details. I feel like I'm buying drugs or something.
Dunno, but the whole thing feels... dodgy. >:(
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Somebody is clearly putting a lot of pressure on Backpage at the moment, just as they did with Craigslist. Both have significant non-sex work sections, or they would doubtless be going the way of RentBoy.
Still, if they want proof of ID before accepting escort ads, I would want anything they had on me deleting sooner rather than later.
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send some bitcoin-twat our ID? >:(
Just saw this concerning if you feel iffy about giving ID...
'If you pay attention to their terms and only use sellers with 100+ positive feedback you should be fine.'
Feedback can't be faked can it...innocent face?
Phahh humbug!
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send some bitcoin-twat our ID? >:(
Exactly.
I was talking with this guy who didn't want to give me his location or any details and he had a picture of some rapper in his profile. He wanted me to send him a scan of my passport and meet him in East London.
Like...Are you fu#$%^g kiddin??
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Then there's this other dude in Ireland who only accepts US dollars and you have to buy him bitcoin through paypal e-gifts.
wtf ???
And all these dodgy dudes are in the paxful website reccomended by backpage!
I mean.. if all these sellers are doing something legal/legit why their fierce need to secrecy and hiding their location/ identities??? When you go into Amazon or ebay to buy stuff usually sellers have their websites posted on their profile, most of the time with a physicall address and a real phone number.
Why is the bitcoin market not operating the same way?
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Conclusion:
So visa and mastercard pulled out from Backpage because they wanted to help "making the world a safer place for us women". And now Backpage is reccomending us (the women) to meet online strangers in some street corner while carrying lots of cash and a copy of our passport?
WTF??
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I didn't become a ho to meet dodgy guys on street corners lol ;D
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I didn't become a ho to meet dodgy guys on street corners lol ;D
Me neither lol!
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Hi
I got bitcoin without giving any id. I paid for it in cash and using my escort email. No ID required.
There are machines in London and big cities that you put cash into. The machine I used was the size of electric kettle.
You open up a wallet(BlockchainDOTcom).All you need is a email address for this. No ID required.
Find a place in your city that has bitcoin machines. There should be a lot in London.
You hold you blockchainDOTcom (wallet) up to the machine and it automatically brings up your details.
Put in money to machine and it tops up. The money appears straight away on your account.
When you go to pay money with backpage hit launch wallet. It will give you a long code.
This code you will send the money from your wallet.
Find the bitcoin machine in your city.
Hope this helps.
Moderator I want to help girls. Hopefully what I have written is ok.
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Elaine, That's amazing thanks!
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When you go to pay money with backpage hit launch wallet. It will give you a long code.
This code you will send the money from your wallet.
Hi Elaine, and thanks.
I've tried a hundred times the "launch your wallet" button on backpage, but comes as an unrecognized address. I've tried it with different browsers in my laptop, and an updated safari version on my iphone. Nope. It always comes as "this address is not recognized". hence the reason I tried the other bitcoin buying option.
Anyone else here has had problems with the Backpage "launch your wallet" option? is it only me? :-X
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Launch wallet
Firstly, you must be logged into your wallet (blockchain)
When you launch wallet a code appears where normally the URL address is.
copy this code.
Back to wallet.
Paste this code into the sender's address.
You will hear a funny beep as the transaction is made. Payment made straight away.
Hope this helps.
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I am finding out why all this now then will update.
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Good news....
Just had an email from pam @backpage. She said the issue with paysafe has been fixed. ☺ That I should be able to use it now only have another 25 days left. If any try please can you update if it works now.
An update just to clarify that I struggled before to pay with pay safe. I choose a certain number of days yesterday. Pamela said safe pay is fully working again.
I don't know the reason why pay safe had difficulties with back page.
So pay safe looks to be a method of payment again alongside bit coins like previously. Pamela mailed me 30 minutes ago after I inquired.
Phew... I was not looking forward to using bit coins.
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I used paypal to buy bitcoins took 5 mins very very easy
If anyone want the name / detail of who I used please pm me
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Ok. Finally I figured out the bitcoin situation. Thanks girls. ;D
Opened a blockchain wallet (following Elaine's instructions), went to a bitcoin ATM (there's like 8 in London, you just need to google "bitcoin ATMS in your city", popped cash inside the machine, pressed the code against screen et voila. Easy stuff.
Going back to Backpage I'm just surprised they're still bumping ads for free and letting the spam fest continue ??? Removing that option would stop the spamming. Spam fests disencourage genuine posters. If backpage doesn't put a stop to it they're going end up like craigslist therapeutic section, an utter mess that has been hijacked by asian gangs and eastern European pimps -posting 24/7- asking us (indies) 600 pounds a month to include us in their spamming machine (it happened to me and a few other ladies I know).
Maybe we should all send an e-mail to the Backpage support service and warn them. They're pretty good at getting back to you with any issue.
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I've been on Backpage since 5 years ago.
They have a policy of non-interference.
They rely on fellow advertisers to flag spam or illegal content.
But this is poorly managed.
I've tried. Backpage do not enforce.
If you flag an ad, the identical one crops up 5 minutes
later followed by a dozen more in the following minutes.
Backpage has never controlled spamming.
They have zero interest.
For this reason I couldn't care less about the card companies destroying them.
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Hi I wanted to increase my adverting days on Back page but they don't have a visa or credit card payment option just some payment options ive never heard of !
Can anyone who uses back page for advertising and pays for adverts advise me here thanks
im starting to get more clients from there than adult work and tried to pay for more days but cant seem too.
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I started a thread on this before....credit card companies stopped working with backpage because of prossie ads.
You have to use paysafe cards (I'm not sure where you buy them you'd have to google) or bitcoin now.
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Merged with the main thread...
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Hi how should I pay for advertising on back page as they don't show visa or Mastercard
They have a payment used I have not heard of!
I'd like to keep my advert running as I've had some decent clients from there so far.
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Bitcoins is easy to use once you downloaded the wallet and bought some. Also paysafecard you can buy the vouchersfrom the shops (it used to be ukash) and pay that way.
But I just did an ad and it was free! I didnt upgrade to sponsered or anything. I let me do a basic ad for free and its up now showing.
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Backpage is no longer "bumping up" ads for free. No more freebies. You got to pay now. haven't been able to bump up my ads for free now for 2 days.
Maybe it's their own way to deal with the spam that was taking over the adult section lately.
Anyone experiencing this?
:FF :FF
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Yes same here Ana.
Happy Holidays are gone!
Spammers pay hundreds a day cash, no object for them.
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They used to let people bump ad their ads after 24hrs but not anymore :FF :FF
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Letter from me to Pam from Backapge today:
Hi Pam,
We're no longer able to "bump up" ads for free in the London section, at least I haven't been able to do it for the last couple days. Now it's asking me for one pound.
Has Backpage stopped the "daily free bump ad your ad" for good?
Me and other providers were wondering.
Thanks and best regards,
Ana
Pam's response:
Hi. Yes, we removed the free move up. It was causing a lot of problems. All reposts are now $1 (pound).
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Shame, it was a really good idea.
Can't figure what problems she's on about ???
Thanks for bugging them Ana :)
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Shame, it was a really good idea.
Can't figure what problems she's on about ???
Thanks for bugging them Ana :)
Oh well, I've noticed the spam today has already been reduced to half, so I guess that's "one of the problems" she's talking about (?).
The moment people can post for free it's a spam fest that gets taken over by gangs and pimps posting 24/7 from Bulgaria and Hong-Kong. Best example is Craigslist therapeutic section. I'm sure Backpage is looking into the spam mess that CL turned into. Of course CL in San Francisco doesn't give a shit because the therapeutic section is free and as far as they're concerned Bulgarian pimps can do as many spam fests as they please, but Adult section in Backpage is a well oiled business with huge profits and you cannot let a business go down the drain. You cannot let it go the spam road because them people just stop reading it.
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Interesting, they charge 2 pounds not to move the ad on top...
For ?2.00, your post will be moved to the top of the listings.
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Interesting, they charge 2 pounds not to move the ad on top...
For ?2.00, your post will be moved to the top of the listings.
??? ??? ???
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Interesting, they charge 2 pounds not to move the ad on top...
For ?2.00, your post will be moved to the top of the listings.
I guess you meant: "They charge 2 pounds to move the ad to the top"
(?)
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Yes, sorry, they charge 2 to move the ad on top :) I rushed a bit ;D
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Thanks Blondie...;)
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Yes, sorry, they charge 2 to move the ad on top :) I rushed a bit ;D
That must be in brighton cause they're charging one pound in London (?)
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If Im Hotblondie Bristol, Im clearly not in Brighton :D
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I thought I'd go a bit random and try it.
I just made a free ad few minutes ago! ???
Grab it while it's hot!
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If Im Hotblondie Bristol, Im clearly not in Brighton :D
Ooop! Sorry I meant Bristol :-X (sily cow me)
I thought I'd go a bit random and try it.
I just made a free ad few minutes ago! ???
Grab it while it's hot!
It won't let me (and these are ads that were posted 2 days ago). You must know people in "high places" ::) (lol)
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LOL I wish :D
I had new cable/internet a week ago so my IP address is different.
I doubt that makes a difference in charging.
If it charges one it should charge all...mind-bobbling :o
Maybe it'll burst my balloon tomorrow and start ghosting lol
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LOL I wish :D
I had new cable/internet a week ago so my IP address is different.
I doubt that makes a difference in charging.
If it charges one it should charge all...mind-bobbling :o
Maybe it'll burst my balloon tomorrow and start ghosting lol
I tried posting from my iphone while in Starbucks (I ALWAYS post from my home computer so this was a different IP address, different w-ifi etc... ) and I got the same "bitch pay one pound please" .
Ok. So this is it. Free ads honeymoon is over. I feel like a child being taken away his favourite toy. :(
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I have 2 adds for Bahrain
I have to pay for to repost and the other I don't
Same in Dubai
So who knows
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So strange.....I just posted a free one.
I will check if it let's me do another later.
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Just done another free one....
I know I'm gonna get banned in a minute lol ;D
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Just done another free one....
I know I'm gonna get banned in a minute lol ;D
We're starting to hate you ;D
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..... :-* lol Anna is this wierd shit or summat?
Did I accidentally rub an Irishman's bald head or something?
Cause his luck rubbed off on me.
I'm not going to try for a few hours as it all may implode lol :o
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Has anyone else had a call from Backpage? I had one from a (lovely sounding) American called Brian, who said all advertising on Backpage was now free, and would I like to do an ad. I said I had one already - I've never paid them.
So maybe give it a go? Perhaps you just have to pay to highlight it or something?
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Has anyone else had a call from Backpage? I had one from a (lovely sounding) American called Brian, who said all advertising on Backpage was now free, and would I like to do an ad. I said I had one already - I've never paid them.
So maybe give it a go? Perhaps you just have to pay to highlight it or something?
You're obviously not in London Kay ;D
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Not quite - but my ad is! :)
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Not quite - but my ad is! :)
I had Pam e-mailing me a few days ago to let me know Backpage was not posting any more ads for free (or bump up).
Weird (?)
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Paysafe option is gone. Gone!
From now on it's bitcoin only.
:FF :FF :FF
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E-mail I got today from Pam backpage:
Hi Ana. Unfortunately it looks like Paysafe is gone for good. Same scenario as Visa/mastercard. So, if you don't see the V/MC logos at the bottom of your Buy Credits page, then Bitcoin is your best bet for now. If you have Romit on your pay screen, that is an easy option too. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but again, this was out of our control.
:FF :FF :FF
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E-mail I got today from Pam backpage:
Hi Ana. Unfortunately it looks like Paysafe is gone for good. Same scenario as Visa/mastercard. So, if you don't see the V/MC logos at the bottom of your Buy Credits page, then Bitcoin is your best bet for now. If you have Romit on your pay screen, that is an easy option too. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but again, this was out of our control.
:FF :FF :FF
And it's f*** driving me crazy!!!!!
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E-mail I got today from Pam backpage:
Hi Ana. Unfortunately it looks like Paysafe is gone for good. Same scenario as Visa/mastercard. So, if you don't see the V/MC logos at the bottom of your Buy Credits page, then Bitcoin is your best bet for now. If you have Romit on your pay screen, that is an easy option too. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but again, this was out of our control.
:FF :FF :FF
And it's f*** driving me crazy!!!!!
Join the club ???
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Before you know it bitcoin will be the next one to go.
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Before you know it bitcoin will be the next one to go.
Nope. It's here to stay. Because unlike visa/mastercard/paysafe/amazon vouchers etc.. it works without a central repository or single administrator. It's categorized as a "decentralized virtual currency". And: unlike credit cards and vouchers, any fees are paid by the purchaser, not the vendor. Bitcoin is a "shady online currency", in fact: everything in the darknet market is bought with it because payments cannot be traced, hence the reason it's perfect for Backpage.
I wonder why Paysafe (like Visa and mastercard) pulled out of Backpage.
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I've given up on backpage anyway.They keep posting my advert in other locations like Birmingham and Edinburgh even though my advert is meant to be for Leeds only.I also can't be doing with bitcoin and they are back to charging for bumping now.
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I've given up on backpage anyway.They keep posting my advert in other locations like Birmingham and Edinburgh even though my advert is meant to be for Leeds only.I also can't be doing with bitcoin and they are back to charging for bumping now.
Well I use Backpage for my quiet spells and I don't mind 1 quid if it brings traffic. Sure it's a lot of twats but I'm amazed by some really great guys who book through it. I guess not everyone uses aw when looking for a girl.
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I used backpage with some succesd as well but as I say they keep posting my advert in different locations where I don't work and never have worked so its become more of a problem for me dealing with clients that book me then ask where in Birmingham or Edinburgh I am.Contacting Backpage did nothing so I have totally removed my advert for now.
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Can anyone who uses back page to advertise tell me how or where I am to get bitcom payment.
No shop I've been too sells vouchers .They used to have pay safe but that's not a option on their page any longer.
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This happened to me so I deleted the ad before making a new one problem solved. :)
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I'm having a bit of a mare with Bitcoins.
Trying to buy some for my Backpage ad, but can only seem to find people selling them in large quantities. is it possible to just buy ?10 worth? Any help would be really appreciated. It's frustrating and I refuse to be beat hahaha
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I'm having a bit of a mare with Bitcoins.
Trying to buy some for my Backpage ad, but can only seem to find people selling them in large quantities. is it possible to just buy ?10 worth? Any help would be really appreciated. It's frustrating and I refuse to be beat hahaha
If you pm I will dig out the name of the person I bought mine from I don't think he has a min amount but if he had it's around 50 Usd
I've used him 3 times now with no problems
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Hi can anyone help me access bitcoins as I want to pay for an advert on back page
It seems they don't take pay safe any longer.
Wish they just took Mastercard or visa would be easier .
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Great after me buying 25 euro on paysafe the freaking thing is no longer usable on BP.
It worked fine last week
HTF do I buy bitcoin or whats the best way to go about it, losing my freaking patience here big time now
First Viva street pulls all ads, then BP starts fannying about with payments
Begining to think a full time day job would be best
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Hi Ladies
I left a note on how I purchased them under this thread.
Hope it helps.
I dont log in to this daily hopefully you will be able to follow my notes.
Thanks
E
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Hopefully my notes on pg 7 & 8 on how I purchased bitcoins and used them on bp will help
I'm sure some of the other girls be able to help also.
Thanks
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Great after me buying 25 euro on paysafe the freaking thing is no longer usable on BP.
It worked fine last week
HTF do I buy bitcoin or whats the best way to go about it, losing my freaking patience here big time now
First Viva street pulls all ads, then BP starts fannying about with payments
Begining to think a full time day job would be best
Exactly my thoughts!!
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Great after me buying 25 euro on paysafe the freaking thing is no longer usable on BP.
It worked fine last week
HTF do I buy bitcoin or whats the best way to go about it, losing my freaking patience here big time now
First Viva street pulls all ads, then BP starts fannying about with payments
Begining to think a full time day job would be best
Use your paysafe for aw. I did
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I'm having a bit of a mare with Bitcoins.
Trying to buy some for my Backpage ad, but can only seem to find people selling them in large quantities. is it possible to just buy ?10 worth? Any help would be really appreciated. It's frustrating and I refuse to be beat hahaha
If you pm I will dig out the name of the person I bought mine from I don't think he has a min amount but if he had it's around 50 Usd
I've used him 3 times now with no problems
Google Bitcoin ATM. Once you got your wallet on your phone you just go to ATM and can buy like ?10.
And for all this information thank you oh lovely lady who explained it to me hahaha:)
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I'm having a bit of a mare with Bitcoins.
Trying to buy some for my Backpage ad, but can only seem to find people selling them in large quantities. is it possible to just buy ?10 worth? Any help would be really appreciated. It's frustrating and I refuse to be beat hahaha
If you pm I will dig out the name of the person I bought mine from I don't think he has a min amount but if he had it's around 50 Usd
I've used him 3 times now with no problems
Google Bitcoin ATM. Once you got your wallet on your phone you just go to ATM and can buy like ?10.
And for all this information thank you oh lovely lady who explained it to me hahaha:)
That's true but unfortuantely depends on you having a bitcoin ATM in your area.
I'm fucked off with backpage about this. I got a lot of my work from them and I totally agree for ?1 a day it's worth it, but at the same time I'm not messing about with bitcoins and buying $50 worth to pay a ?1 ad.
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To buy bitcoins I use the Bittylicious website.
I've used it lots of times on backpage and have not had any problems and I can customise the amount of bitcoins I have to make sure I can spend under ?10.
You enter the amount you want and it matches you up with someone who can sell them.
I use the "bread wallet" (an app on my iPhone) in conjunction with it and it is relatively simple
I've stopped paying for back page in all honesty. I just delete my old advert and make a new one, (Lots of work but I'm stingy) ;D and Its mostly just a copy and paste job.
It does make me wonder. Before back page used to post my advert in lots of different cities but now I noticed that you have to pay to appear in extra areas at 25 pence each.
Has anyone noticed if this has made a huge difference to the amount of work that they get?
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One thing I don't get about this Backpage fiasco.
It's now become ridiculously hard to pay for advertising there. I expected that the number of adverts would therefore fall, creating an opportunity (for a while) to get more exposure - if you can be bothered. But the number of ads there (for London at least) is still enormous.
Why is this? Is everyone just getting free ads? If you can't re-post automatically (which requires payment), will you get a half-decent number of enquiries from a "one shot" ad??
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One thing I don't get about this Backpage fiasco.
It's now become ridiculously hard to pay for advertising there. I expected that the number of adverts would therefore fall, creating an opportunity (for a while) to get more exposure - if you can be bothered. But the number of ads there (for London at least) is still enormous.
Why is this? Is everyone just getting free ads? If you can't re-post automatically (which requires payment), will you get a half-decent number of enquiries from a "one shot" ad??
Because in the London escort section there are a couple of pimps with tons of girls working for them. These guys just sit and post 24/7 and spam the section. If you look closely at the escort section you will see that half of the ads have the same stupid heading "horney babe 4 u", have very very young girls posing in the photos, and the same stupid spelling mistakes. These are professional pimps spamming.
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The thing is that pimps used to be a bit more low key when credit card payments were accepted because they could be tracked down. And Backpage is known for working very very close with law enforcement, but since we have bitcoin and pimps can't be tracked down, Backpage is "heaven" for them.
Someone should have a word or two with that sheriff in California who said he was creating a "safer" world for women and children by pullling visa and mastercard out of Backpage.
He must have been on crack when he made that statement.
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One thing I don't get about this Backpage fiasco.
It's now become ridiculously hard to pay for advertising there. I expected that the number of adverts would therefore fall, creating an opportunity (for a while) to get more exposure - if you can be bothered. But the number of ads there (for London at least) is still enormous.
Why is this? Is everyone just getting free ads? If you can't re-post automatically (which requires payment), will you get a half-decent number of enquiries from a "one shot" ad??
The thing is if you had an ad with them, and post up another one shot ad, clients who look at it regularly will see that ad and recognise the name etc.
Is it free to post an ad on Backpage?
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Visa and Mastercard are back online with them! They've also linked to a site called cracker which seems to be exactly the same and ads for both appear together..
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Visa and Mastercard are back online with them! They've also linked to a site called cracker which seems to be exactly the same and ads for both appear together..
That's good to know Cracker was one of the sites that I used in Australia
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Visa and Mastercard are back online with them! They've also linked to a site called cracker which seems to be exactly the same and ads for both appear together..
Not in London Miss Bentley... Just checked right now and only payment by bitcoin is allowed.
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Interesting I use BP at times when in Glasgow or Birmingham. Certainly they are not the only sites where Pimps monopolise the listings, I could name a few in my area (West Sussex)..
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Log into your backpage account through the Cracker site and you will get the credit card option under buy credits
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Log into your backpage account through the Cracker site and you will get the credit card option under buy credits
That's really good to know thanks
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Log into your backpage account through the Cracker site and you will get the credit card option under buy credits
That's really good to know thanks
I'm confused whats the cracker site?
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Log into your backpage account through the Cracker site and you will get the credit card option under buy credits
That's really good to know thanks
I'm confused whats the cracker site?
cracker dot com - quite simple
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Do you have to log in via backpage
When I log in through my back page account I only get the bitcoins option
Do you have a link for the payment page please
Thanks
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Thanks for that Miss Bentley ............. I have dollars to spend now :) as didnt want to do the bitcoin thingy !
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Ive just logged in with cracker .com but it still takes me to the bitcoins option
Any idea where the normal credit card option is
Thanks
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I can only pay with Bitcoin as well.
Haven't a clue how to buy Bitcoin and don't want to either.
Hoping there is a way to pay without using it.
It's good to a have a cheap advert, unlike Vivastreet etc
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Your backpage log in is the same as your cracker log in as they are the same site with different names.. I don't think I can post screenshots on here so.. Go to cracker.com log in using your backpage details.. Go to pay for something you choose, click buy credits, fund account, visa or Mastercard, enter credit card details for amount you choose.. Confirm!
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Backpage have found a back door, which is www. cracker. com/
Its their website, I got an email from backpage stating that.
You can login on cracker with the same id and pasword from backpage and buy credits using a credit card, it will transfer them into your backpage account.
Cracker its exactly like backpage, same layout etc.
Good luck :)
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Awesome news!
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Has backpage reverted to bitcoin only? My remaining credit seems to have disappeared when I tried to bump my ad just now, and the only payment option is bitcoin.
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How weird. Just bought some dollars via cracker, but can't pay with it. Even via cracker it's now showing up as bitcoin only
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Back to normal. Must have been a glitch...
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Backpage also raised their rates.
>:(
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I might be being really dumb here but im having trouble with backpage. They seem to have reorganised their set up (at least on the mobile site and i think the nain one too) so it's no longer the most recent posts that come at the top it's in tabs do 'top' Are the ones ever one sees them there are tabs for 'date' like ir used to be and gallery which is obviously just by photo.. what I'm trying to figure out IS how you get listed in the 'top' section ot what it is you need to buy? Any help much appreciated . Since they changed it my business coming from backpage has been practically non existent
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I read something yesterday written by the guy who founded/started Bitcoin. He says it's in chaos and he has disassociated himself from it, entirely. I didn't understand any of the techy talk about what was wrong with it (bizarre infighting and entrenched sides that mean the database is unable to scale up to sufficiently handle traffic, I think.) Anyway, I think Bitcoin is going to be a thing of the past soon enough - especially now that the guy who started it is publicly denouncing it. I wonder why BP hasn't gone for UKash the way AW does?
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I read something yesterday written by the guy who founded/started Bitcoin. He says it's in chaos and he has disassociated himself from it, entirely. I didn't understand any of the techy talk about what was wrong with it (bizarre infighting and entrenched sides that mean the database is unable to scale up to sufficiently handle traffic, I think.) Anyway, I think Bitcoin is going to be a thing of the past soon enough - especially now that the guy who started it is publicly denouncing it. I wonder why BP hasn't gone for UKash the way AW does?
I disagree w u Fabulassie. Bitcoin is s too strong worldwide currency right now. There's bitcoin ATM machines all over the planet. Many banks will even change you money into bitcoin nowadays. I don't know what's the beef with the bitcoin founder (sounds like he invented something that got too big for his pants). I believe bitcoin is here to stay, and eventually will get regulated by the governments (right now it's not, so there's a bit of chaos going on).
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I purchased some credits with my card but after it only gives the bitcoin option. Am I missing out some thing?.
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I got an email from someone at BackPage saying that if you pay for an advert on Cracker it will appear on Backpage. So, I bought some credits on the Cracker site with my Credit Card, and posted an advert. Bought a couple of things like relisting and sponsored. Very cheap, really. Sure enough, there I am on Backpage!
The Bitcoin option for payment is very prominently placed but to pay by credit card or your account credits is very simple. However, I didn't post it on Backpage - I posted it on Cracker and it appeared on Backpage.
I don't know if anybody ever finds Cracker but at the very worst I'm on two sites for the price of one.
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Backpage have found a back door, which is www. cracker. com/
Its their website, I got an email from backpage stating that.
You can login on cracker with the same id and pasword from backpage and buy credits using a credit card, it will transfer them into your backpage account.
Cracker its exactly like backpage, same layout etc.
Good luck :)
Yes, 2 sites in one :)
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Backpage have found a back door, which is www. cracker. com/
Its their website, I got an email from backpage stating that.
You can login on cracker with the same id and pasword from backpage and buy credits using a credit card, it will transfer them into your backpage account.
Cracker its exactly like backpage, same layout etc.
Good luck :)
Yes, 2 sites in one :)
I saw your post but didn't understand. When I first looked at Cracker I saw bitcoin and thought it was a bitcoin thing. The email from Jeff at Backpage made me try again. When he said that posting on Cracker meant posting on Backpage the penny finally dropped for me!
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Backpage have found a back door, which is www. cracker. com/
Its their website, I got an email from backpage stating that.
You can login on cracker with the same id and pasword from backpage and buy credits using a credit card, it will transfer them into your backpage account.
Cracker its exactly like backpage, same layout etc.
Good luck :)
Yes, 2 sites in one :)
I saw your post but didn't understand. When I first looked at Cracker I saw bitcoin and thought it was a bitcoin thing. The email from Jeff at Backpage made me try again. When he said that posting on Cracker meant posting on Backpage the penny finally dropped for me!
Oh wait ladies so no more Bitcoin drama?
Ana yes there are Bitcoin ATMs. I know one in Central London. Mostly it's off service and there you go wasting your time going there for nothing. The system just shuts down and remains down for hours. The people running the shop took pity on me and told me to call them to check on the ATM before coming... They can recognise my voice on the phone by now:))))
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Nope. No more bitcoin. Pay with a credit card to post on Cracker and it will appear on BackPage.
I don't know why BP does as well as it does. It's a real mess. Like gumtree or something.
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Nope. No more bitcoin. Pay with a credit card to post on Cracker and it will appear on BackPage.
I don't know why BP does as well as it does. It's a real mess. Like gumtree or something.
Well for myself who each time saw "bitcoins" and thought "bite" ("cock" in my language) this is quite a relief. The image of a coin with a willy on it is now gone for good...
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Is it credit card only or will it accept debit cards?
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It accepts debit cards too mine is.
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It accepts debit cards too mine is.
Thanks x
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I got an email not long after backpage announced that the card companies had dropped them telling me about the new Cracker site and how I could pay for Cracker and Backpage together using my card on the Cracker site. I was so pleased because I get a lot of clients from that website.
Didn't we all get that email? I contacted BP and they confirmed it was all legit before I paid of course.
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I got an email not long after backpage announced that the card companies had dropped them telling me about the new Cracker site and how I could pay for Cracker and Backpage together using my card on the Cracker site. I was so pleased because I get a lot of clients from that website.
Didn't we all get that email? I contacted BP and they confirmed it was all legit before I paid of course.
I only got an email a week ago. I heard about it on here before that. I don't know why I hesitated so long before trying it out. It's cheap and it works.
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I got an email not long after backpage announced that the card companies had dropped them telling me about the new Cracker site and how I could pay for Cracker and Backpage together using my card on the Cracker site. I was so pleased because I get a lot of clients from that website.
Didn't we all get that email? I contacted BP and they confirmed it was all legit before I paid of course.
No I never got an email from them.
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It accepts debit cards too mine is.
Thanks x
Your welcome. :)
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is anyone else having trouble with backpage? Every time I post an ad it doesn't show up. I'm wondering if they have blocked my IP due to the number of times I have created a new ad and posted it for free as bitcoin was so confusing.
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I have been having this problem too. Backpage have reorganised their page in to tabs so when you update or post a new ad you come at the top of the 'date' tab which is the last so I'm guessing pretty much no one clicks on, does anyone know how to get yourself listed in the 'top' tab which is the main page as it loads? The only extra feature I can find is the featured ad which puts you in the sidebar buy it doesn't help with the listing? Ever since they changed this is stopped getting bookings through backpage!
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I just paid directly on Backpage.
Below bitcoins option there's CCPay option. I paid with my Master debit card.
Here's copy paste from the confirmation email I received:
"We are the authorised payment processor for Cracker.com Classifieds (the merchant). We have securely processed your transaction and are providing this email as receipt of your order. You will also receive a tax invoice/order confirmation from the merchant/supplier you made the purchase from."
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very bad news. Apparently the American government is going to stop everything on Backpage.
I'm shocked
inforum.com/news/3946636-senate-committee-seeks-hold-backpagecom-contempt
link edited - PLEASE don't post these here
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"?In North Dakota, we have seen Backpage.com used over and over again to sell women and children for sex"
Nice how we're lumped together, as if we're not adults.
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[Link removed - stop posting these now, please]
copied and pasted directly from the above URL
What's does this mean for us?
WASHINGTON ? The Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs voted unanimously Wednesday to pursue civil contempt charges against Backpage.com, a Dallas-based online classified ad site, for refusing to disclose how it monitors its adult services ads for signs of sex trafficking.
If the full Senate votes to hold the company in civil contempt, a federal court would be able to rule on the subpoenas that Backpage has been served and potentially enforce them through a court order. It would also make Backpage the first entity held in contempt by the Senate in two decades.
?We have given Backpage.com every opportunity to comply with a lawful subpoena, but they have continued to stonewall,? said Sens. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, and Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., in a joint statement.
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"?In North Dakota, we have seen Backpage.com used over and over again to sell women and children for sex"
Nice how we're lumped together, as if we're not adults.
Do you think Backpage will no longer be allowed to let advertise escorts(naturally those who work by choice, clearly not trafficked)
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"?In North Dakota, we have seen Backpage.com used over and over again to sell women and children for sex"
Nice how we're lumped together, as if we're not adults.
Do you think Backpage will no longer be allowed to let advertise escorts(naturally those who work by choice, clearly not trafficked)
Probably!
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If that's the case they'll probably just roll out the cracker site in its place, they seem to be gearing up for that already.. (and it is LITERALLY the same site with a different name)
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Has anyone noticed that when you purchase credits on Backpage there are extra charges> Like say you purchase ?3 credits you get billed ?3.20 or ?3.40 or something. Have contacted andrew about it twice but he never responded
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In Australia, I just update cracker with my ad, and bump it up during the day as need be.
It updates backpage automatically - as they are the same
I love this system! It doesn't look like many girls
Use it in Scotland, it will be weird changing to a new way of advertising :(
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JUST TO WARN EVERYONE
my bank called this morning about a transaction of ? 2000 that was attempted last night on my debit card. In China!!!!
The transaction was rejected but it appears since end Jan I have had a dozen of transactions that did get through, I honestly didn't notice because it was always very small amounts, from ? 0,50 (pence!) to like ?9. All the transactions were coming from China:(
I was only using this card for food, TFL and Backpage. Simply nowhere else and I'm sure of it. And the Chinese transactions were always within 24 hours after I paid for Backpage.
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JUST TO WARN EVERYONE
my bank called this morning about a transaction of ? 2000 that was attempted last night on my debit card. In China!!!!
The transaction was rejected but it appears since end Jan I have had a dozen of transactions that did get through, I honestly didn't notice because it was always very small amounts, from ? 0,50 (pence!) to like ?9. All the transactions were coming from China:(
I was only using this card for food, TFL and Backpage. Simply nowhere else and I'm sure of it. And the Chinese transactions were always within 24 hours after I paid for Backpage.
That is VERY VERY scary. Could you e-mail Pam from Backpage and let her know?
Did you pay from cracker or directly from backpage?
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JUST TO WARN EVERYONE
my bank called this morning about a transaction of ? 2000 that was attempted last night on my debit card. In China!!!!
The transaction was rejected but it appears since end Jan I have had a dozen of transactions that did get through, I honestly didn't notice because it was always very small amounts, from ? 0,50 (pence!) to like ?9. All the transactions were coming from China:(
I was only using this card for food, TFL and Backpage. Simply nowhere else and I'm sure of it. And the Chinese transactions were always within 24 hours after I paid for Backpage.
That is VERY VERY scary. Could you e-mail Pam from Backpage and let her know?
Did you pay from cracker or directly from backpage?
Good idea. I'll do that in the morning, I've been busy with the bank the whole afternoon. Xxx
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Hi all,
So I got an automated call from my bank on Friday stating that someone was trying to make a big transaction from my debit card in China. This is a bank account that I only use to make my backpage classified ads payments. These Chinese thugs have been taking small amounts from my bank account and i didn't notice, untill they tried to take a lot of money. So I had my debit card blocked. I have to go to my bank on Monday and sort off how much money they have taken and get a new debit card. They tried to pull out 2000 pounds from my account right after after I made a backpage transaction (thank god I managed to block it).
So there's something very wrong going on with bakpage payments, like their security sistem is not good at all. I wonder if it happened through the cracker.com or backpage. But I'm very very annoyed at this point and thinking in going back to paying for backpage ads with bitcoin in order to avoid these hacking attempts.
I'm going to contact Pam and let her know.
Girls: be very careful with your backpage payments.
:FF :FF :FF
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Hi girls
I use a prepaid 3v debit cards. Should I be worried.
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JUST TO WARN EVERYONE
my bank called this morning about a transaction of ? 2000 that was attempted last night on my debit card. In China!!!!
The transaction was rejected but it appears since end Jan I have had a dozen of transactions that did get through, I honestly didn't notice because it was always very small amounts, from ? 0,50 (pence!) to like ?9. All the transactions were coming from China:(
I was only using this card for food, TFL and Backpage. Simply nowhere else and I'm sure of it. And the Chinese transactions were always within 24 hours after I paid for Backpage.
That is VERY VERY scary. Could you e-mail Pam from Backpage and let her know?
Did you pay from cracker or directly from backpage?
I hope you get a response. I emailed andrew about it twice and got no response. perhaps I will call him, he might just put the phone down for all I know. Chances are they probably know but don't want to address it. Dutty stinking rasclats. Did you guys save your card details on backpage?
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JUST TO WARN EVERYONE
my bank called this morning about a transaction of ? 2000 that was attempted last night on my debit card. In China!!!!
The transaction was rejected but it appears since end Jan I have had a dozen of transactions that did get through, I honestly didn't notice because it was always very small amounts, from ? 0,50 (pence!) to like ?9. All the transactions were coming from China:(
I was only using this card for food, TFL and Backpage. Simply nowhere else and I'm sure of it. And the Chinese transactions were always within 24 hours after I paid for Backpage.
That is VERY VERY scary. Could you e-mail Pam from Backpage and let her know?
Did you pay from cracker or directly from backpage?
I hope you get a response. I emailed andrew about it twice and got no response. perhaps I will call him, he might just put the phone down for all I know. Chances are they probably know but don't want to address it. Dutty stinking rasclats. Did you guys save your card details on backpage?
Yes, I did save my card details (silly cow), but I'm getting a new card tomorrow so good riddance. I just find very suspicious that after all the visa/mastercard problem the banks stopped working with backpage and all of a sudden...despite all that media backlash they started working with them... again? Strange. makes no sense.
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JUST TO WARN EVERYONE
my bank called this morning about a transaction of ? 2000 that was attempted last night on my debit card. In China!!!!
The transaction was rejected but it appears since end Jan I have had a dozen of transactions that did get through, I honestly didn't notice because it was always very small amounts, from ? 0,50 (pence!) to like ?9. All the transactions were coming from China:(
I was only using this card for food, TFL and Backpage. Simply nowhere else and I'm sure of it. And the Chinese transactions were always within 24 hours after I paid for Backpage.
That is VERY VERY scary. Could you e-mail Pam from Backpage and let her know?
Did you pay from cracker or directly from backpage?
I hope you get a response. I emailed andrew about it twice and got no response. perhaps I will call him, he might just put the phone down for all I know. Chances are they probably know but don't want to address it. Dutty stinking rasclats. Did you guys save your card details on backpage?
Yes, I did save my card details (silly cow), but I'm getting a new card tomorrow so good riddance. I just find very suspicious that after all the visa/mastercard problem the banks stopped working with backpage and all of a sudden...despite all that media backlash they started working with them... again? Strange. makes no sense.
I never save my card details anywhere. but they can still hack if you don't save it isn't it?
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Hi all,
So I got an automated call from my bank on Friday stating that someone was trying to make a big transaction from my debit card in China. This is a bank account that I only use to make my backpage classified ads payments. These Chinese thugs have been taking small amounts from my bank account and i didn't notice, untill they tried to take a lot of money. So I had my debit card blocked. I have to go to my bank on Monday and sort off how much money they have taken and get a new debit card. They tried to pull out 2000 pounds from my account right after after I made a backpage transaction (thank god I managed to block it).
So there's something very wrong going on with bakpage payments, like their security sistem is not good at all. I wonder if it happened through the cracker.com or backpage. But I'm very very annoyed at this point and thinking in going back to paying for backpage ads with bitcoin in order to avoid these hacking attempts.
I'm going to contact Pam and let her know.
Girls: be very careful with your backpage payments.
:FF :FF :FF
It was exactly the same with me!!!! All those amounts were 8,72 or 5,67 or even 0,20 for like 3 months and then the bank got alerted when the bloody Chinese tried to get ?2000!!!!!!
Once again everyone careful with Backpage
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Hi all,
So I got an automated call from my bank on Friday stating that someone was trying to make a big transaction from my debit card in China. This is a bank account that I only use to make my backpage classified ads payments. These Chinese thugs have been taking small amounts from my bank account and i didn't notice, untill they tried to take a lot of money. So I had my debit card blocked. I have to go to my bank on Monday and sort off how much money they have taken and get a new debit card. They tried to pull out 2000 pounds from my account right after after I made a backpage transaction (thank god I managed to block it).
So there's something very wrong going on with bakpage payments, like their security sistem is not good at all. I wonder if it happened through the cracker.com or backpage. But I'm very very annoyed at this point and thinking in going back to paying for backpage ads with bitcoin in order to avoid these hacking attempts.
I'm going to contact Pam and let her know.
Girls: be very careful with your backpage payments.
:FF :FF :FF
It was exactly the same with me!!!! All those amounts were 8,72 or 5,67 or even 0,20 for like 3 months and then the bank got alerted when the bloody Chinese tried to get ?2000!!!!!!
Once again everyone careful with Backpage
Yep. And I had to convince my bank that I hadn't made any trip to China. It was quite embarasing. :FF
So Hopefully it was my debit card that got hacked (same one I was using to pay for my backpage ads -such a coincidence) and not my bank account. So the bank cancelled my debit card and gave me a new one.
I will be paying with bitcoin for my ads from now on because I'm 90% certain that their system is compromised. I as I had not used that debit card to pay anything else.
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Hi all,
So I got an automated call from my bank on Friday stating that someone was trying to make a big transaction from my debit card in China. This is a bank account that I only use to make my backpage classified ads payments. These Chinese thugs have been taking small amounts from my bank account and i didn't notice, untill they tried to take a lot of money. So I had my debit card blocked. I have to go to my bank on Monday and sort off how much money they have taken and get a new debit card. They tried to pull out 2000 pounds from my account right after after I made a backpage transaction (thank god I managed to block it).
So there's something very wrong going on with bakpage payments, like their security sistem is not good at all. I wonder if it happened through the cracker.com or backpage. But I'm very very annoyed at this point and thinking in going back to paying for backpage ads with bitcoin in order to avoid these hacking attempts.
I'm going to contact Pam and let her know.
Girls: be very careful with your backpage payments.
:FF :FF :FF
It was exactly the same with me!!!! All those amounts were 8,72 or 5,67 or even 0,20 for like 3 months and then the bank got alerted when the bloody Chinese tried to get ?2000!!!!!!
Once again everyone careful with Backpage
Yep. And I had to convince my bank that I hadn't made any trip to China. It was quite embarasing. :FF
So Hopefully it was my debit card that got hacked (same one I was using to pay for my backpage ads -such a coincidence) and not my bank account. So the bank cancelled my debit card and gave me a new one.
I will be paying with bitcoin for my ads from now on because I'm 90% certain that their system is compromised. I as I had not used that debit card to pay anything else.
Oh totally. It was the card, not the account. They destroyed it and gave me a new one. I just know it's Backpage because just like you I only used this card for Backpage and nowhere else, I use another one for the rest. All transactions were in China with those completely crazy names that the bank's fraud service couldn't track!
They called me one morning asking could I please tell them where I am right now (errrrmmmm in my bed!) because they just rejected my transaction of 2000 in China! Suddenly they tell me I keep having minor transactions in China for weeks and have I been to China?!
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Backpage question: Has anyone her used visa gift cards to pay for their ads? I don't want to use bitcoin because you end up paying way much more money and don't want to give my card details because it's not a secure system.
I've e-mail backpage and Pam a week ago and no response.
???
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Hey guys so ive been using cracker and my visa card to get my add up on back page and i want to shove my add to the top of the listings but it keeps crashing on me....? this happening to anyone else? i could really do with some work today. :(
EDIT: seems to be working fine now! sorry about that... :FF ???
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Hi
Is backpage going to be shut down?
They are in court and US government wants to shut it down
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Very quiet day for me, so thought of giving myself a little boost by trying backpage after an interval of a few months. It looks as though they're now charging ?5 for a single insert. Last time I used bp they charged ?3 - a huge increase in percentage terms.
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Very quiet day for me, so thought of giving myself a little boost by trying backpage after an interval of a few months. It looks as though they're now charging ?5 for a single insert. Last time I used bp they charged ?3 - a huge increase in percentage terms.
Didn't they use to be ?1 at one point?
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I've noticed since the CEO got arrested a month and a half ago business has totally dried up in Backpage.
Am I the only one experiencing this? Has anyone noticed or it's just me?
??? ??? ???
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Ive just noticed that backpage have changed there payment acceptance again
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Backpage seemed to have scraped my advert from either AW, Viva or FridayAd, but I've never created an account or advertised with them. Has anyone actually had any decent leads from them? I've had a few people have said "I've seen you on backpage" but they've been the furtive phone wanker type.
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i had to send a money order when i was working in the states i've not got clue about bit coin.
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Backpage seemed to have scraped my advert from either AW, Viva or FridayAd, but I've never created an account or advertised with them. Has anyone actually had any decent leads from them? I've had a few people have said "I've seen you on backpage" but they've been the furtive phone wanker type.
I do well with backpage in the Midlands and have got some lovely regular clients from it
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I do well with backpage in the Midlands and have got some lovely regular clients from it
Thanks Paris, I'll give it a try next time I do Brum or Derby.
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Trying to sponsor my backpage ad and got a prepaid visa just for this purpose, but it's only giving me an option to use bitcoin - have they changed it again?!
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Wanted to use Backpage this week as I'm touring the midlands. Got stuck with the Bitcoin thing last night. Investigated a few ways of buying Bitcoin but they are all ridiculous. In order to pay by debit card you need to take a photograph of you with your card, plus with your driving license/passport, and send it to the vendor. YEAH OKAY SON.
Then I remembered that Backpage bought Cracker, which is still accepting cards. So I've taken a sponsored ad on Cracker for the matching region in Backpage and I *think* they will mirror the ad across both sites. Worth a try right? I'll update later to say if it's appeared.
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Wanted to use Backpage this week as I'm touring the midlands. Got stuck with the Bitcoin thing last night. Investigated a few ways of buying Bitcoin but they are all ridiculous. In order to pay by debit card you need to take a photograph of you with your card, plus with your driving license/passport, and send it to the vendor. YEAH OKAY SON.
Then I remembered that Backpage bought Cracker, which is still accepting cards. So I've taken a sponsored ad on Cracker for the matching region in Backpage and I *think* they will mirror the ad across both sites. Worth a try right? I'll update later to say if it's appeared.
Yes, please, update soon if you were able to post on backpage through cracker. Thanks.
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Right, my ad has been published and it is indeed showing as a sponsored listing on both Cracker and Backpage. I've paid about ?17 for the ad (they charge in Australian dollars - I suspect since sex work is legal in Australia they've moved operations there.) You don't have all the functionality of Backpage and you can only post quite short wording, but rather do that and pay by card than send my personal details to some 22 year old hacker in Ukraine :o
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Right, my ad has been published and it is indeed showing as a sponsored listing on both Cracker and Backpage. I've paid about ?17 for the ad (they charge in Australian dollars - I suspect since sex work is legal in Australia they've moved operations there.) You don't have all the functionality of Backpage and you can only post quite short wording, but rather do that and pay by card than send my personal details to some 22 year old hacker in Ukraine :o
Both cracker and backpage headquarters are in The netherlands, not in australia VC. On the other hand the CEO and shareholders just got spared from a harsh jail sentence thanks to a reasonable judge, but now with the Trump administration and all those hardcore bible thumping republicans Backpage needs to cover their asses and take precautions hence the credit card/ID photo etc
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. It's not Backpage who require the ID (I wouldn't have a problem with that.) It's what's required to buy Bitcoins off some random person.
I wonder why they are charging in AUD if they're in the Netherlands then?
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. It's not Backpage who require the ID (I wouldn't have a problem with that.) It's what's required to buy Bitcoins off some random person.
I wonder why they are charging in AUD if they're in the Netherlands then?
I'm sorry, it sounded like backpage was asking for ID's now with credit card payment (I'm surprised that after the CEO's arrest and with Trump administration coming they're not doing it yet). yeah, asking for ID to buy bitcoin is quite common as it's a very dodgy world, but like you said: "I wouldnt give my personal details to some Ukranian hacker".
Cracker charging in Australian $? that's weird, last time I bought ads from cracker they were charging in US $. It's really weird, because if you google cracker ads heaquarters/contact/info nothing comes out. Cracker is a "mirror" or duplicate of Backpage, and I'm sure it's done on purpose just in case something happens to Backpage. I wouldn't be surprised if cracker headquarters is in Australia as precaution.
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Wanted to use Backpage this week as I'm touring the midlands. Got stuck with the Bitcoin thing last night. Investigated a few ways of buying Bitcoin but they are all ridiculous. In order to pay by debit card you need to take a photograph of you with your card, plus with your driving license/passport, and send it to the vendor. YEAH OKAY SON.
Then I remembered that Backpage bought Cracker, which is still accepting cards. So I've taken a sponsored ad on Cracker for the matching region in Backpage and I *think* they will mirror the ad across both sites. Worth a try right? I'll update later to say if it's appeared.
When I try this I get directed to pay by Bitcoin no option for USD
Did you start a totally new add / account
Or try to use your old one
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When I try this I get directed to pay by Bitcoin no option for USD
Did you start a totally new add / account
Or try to use your old one
I have a 6 year old account with backpage and when I tried to post today I only get the bitcoin option too. Weird. I'll send a message to Pam from backpage and ask her what's going on.
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You cannot book and pay via Backpage. You need to sign into Cracker.com (make a new account if you don't have one) and you'll then have the option to fund your account via Aussie dollars. My ad cost $30 but I think it stays up a month.
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You cannot book and pay via Backpage. You need to sign into Cracker.com (make a new account if you don't have one) and you'll then have the option to fund your account via Aussie dollars. My ad cost $30 but I think it stays up a month.
Are you in the uk? because 30 aussie dollars for a month is veeeeeeeery cheap price, theyre charging 200 pounds for a month in london.
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I had to make a new account on cracker as signing in With my usual address just shows up my normal
Back page add
I Paid 10 dollars for two weeks in oxford but reposting every day is expensive
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Yes I'm only here (Oxford) for 4 days so only got 4 reposts, but I did take sponsored.
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just opened a new cracker account, and yes able to pay with credit card but prices remain the same as backpage :-(
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Today I received an email from Dimitra at Cracker, saying they'd created an ad for me. In a separate email they sent me the link, and sure enough they have... They've nicked two of my Select an Escort photos and the text from my ad on there. Bit off? I've left it up, but I'm not very impressed.
Cracker is linked to Backpage, right?
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Yes, Backpage own Cracker.
They did similar to me when I first started. Bit annoying but at least they did email to say they'd done it!
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Backpage did the same to me. Took my website photos and copy and paste description from viva street. But it got me work ad I carried on advertising with them. They had the decency to email me the login details and how to edit or delete the ad. It was accurate prices etc.
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They did the same to me but... I've had a fair bit of work from it! xx
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Fucking hell!
My phone has been off the hook by normal standards today, since the Cracker ad went live. It's not all due to that - one caller said he'd got my number from a magazine, and another from PTMU - but the majority have come from there as far as I can work out. Christ on a bike, what a bunch of morons. Wanting overnighters tonight, anal, calling from blocked numbers etc. etc. I shan't be paying them to renew it... :FF
Also, Vivastreet phoned me - again - after seeing the ad, not realising that they'd been in contact only a few weeks before. Bit desperate??
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They did it to me when I already had an advert with them and they put it under a city I'm not even it!
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I've received several of these emails, only when I finally did click on the link to make it go live, I don't appear. I've never bothered with them in the past, as I've heard nothing but bad things about Backpage, so I assume Cracker won't be any different, especially if they're offering me free advertising that doesn't show. I can't be bothered chasing it.
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I kept some stats when I took out a featured ad on Cracker/Backpage and the ratio of TW was very bad. My stats showed 7 out of 10 bookings didn't turn up. (The stats for AW calls were the other way around, only 3/10 cancelled or no showed. So it wasn't a feature of the area.)
I spent about ?30 on the ad and made over ?200 in bookings from it, so it did pay for itself. But what I find annoying is that you can only take the ad out for a month, and there's no way of moving the ad location. I tour for a week at a time so it's not brilliant value for money for me.
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I kept some stats when I took out a featured ad on Cracker/Backpage and the ratio of TW was very bad. My stats showed 7 out of 10 bookings didn't turn up. (The stats for AW calls were the other way around, only 3/10 cancelled or no showed. So it wasn't a feature of the area.)
I spent about ?30 on the ad and made over ?200 in bookings from it, so it did pay for itself. But what I find annoying is that you can only take the ad out for a month, and there's no way of moving the ad location. I tour for a week at a time so it's not brilliant value for money for me.
Glad I found this thread I had a feeling Cracker would be mainly time wasters. I just had an email offering a free trial, they'd lifted my details from elsewhere and have the location wrong so I don't think I'll be bothering
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Glad I found this thread I had a feeling Cracker would be mainly time wasters. I just had an email offering a free trial, they'd lifted my details from elsewhere and have the location wrong so I don't think I'll be bothering
Oh for Gods sake now I find they've put this ad up without my permission and I've had some dodgy email asking if I do two guys at once with filming when I do neither of these things !!
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You can just delete the add when no longer in the area ( that's what I do )
Apart from bristol where I leave it running permanently
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This has not happened to me yet... ::)
I guess if it did, then if would boost my meetings 8)
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You can just delete the add when no longer in the area ( that's what I do )
Apart from bristol where I leave it running permanently
I haven't activated it or clicked on any link so have no login details despite that it's gone live. I've advised them they put the wrong area. They have ignored this and I am now getting really pissed off because I keep getting calls from people thinking I'm in a different area
So I've emailed them again to ask them to either take it down or at the very least put the correct area
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I have advertised on these for the past two weeks and had zero bookings.
I'm getting plenty of calls but not one has called my main number on the autoresponse to deter time wasters. Some have even called 3 times in a row. Like the autoresponse is going to change!!!
I'm kept busy enough with AW but I just can't be bothered with the above. I'll use VS in my local area but that's it!
Does anyone actually get ANY work from them?
Maybe the autoresponse is a bad idea but now that VS allow nothing in the ad, I don't think I could cope with the lengthy phone calls.
Is anyone experiencing the same? For the record I've used it in East and West Midlands.
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Hi Blaize about a month ago I thought I?d give them a go and didn?t get one booking either,very disappointing. I occasionally advertise on Vivastreet and do get some bookings from that.
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Gonna be frank here. Weve been on backpage for a week. Weve had bookings. And 100s of calls. But f**k me non of them can read and 98% are tws
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I usually expect a maximum of 1-2 bookings per tour via backpage. It works well for me in London, the South East, Oxford and Wales.
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Well girls,
I think that about says it all ;D
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I put a free ad up in the past month and just had two timewasters that was all. Guys who hadn't seen an escort before and never made a booking.
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cracker free ad 0 booking
i am in London
even Viva do not work for me! basic ad
select and local escort do not work also! free ad and i tried a free trial as feature 0 booking!
yuppi! ;D ;D :D :D
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When you pay for it ?5 move to the top - ONCE - and it shows up in the - Top category and Gallery category - You are to get bookings as the free advert side does show your profile in gallery. So long as you are fully clear on your service do and don'ts. Cracker/Backpage when paid works. Free add no clients come through. x
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When you pay for it ?5 move to the top - ONCE - and it shows up in the - Top category and Gallery category - You are to get bookings as the free advert side does show your profile in gallery. So long as you are fully clear on your service do and don'ts. Cracker/Backpage when paid works. Free add no clients come through. x
i will try in the end of the month to see...now it is too slow to judge if works...thank you
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Yes I should have specified, I pay for it. Depending on the area you'll pay 5-15 quid (across the week) for a daily repost.
But yeah the TW are prolific and I funnel them through my second phone.
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Yes I should have specified, I pay for it. Depending on the area you'll pay 5-15 quid (across the week) for a daily repost.
But yeah the TW are prolific and I funnel them through my second phone.
I did that and not one called on my main phone.
I can't be arsed with it.
It worked in my home destination about a year ago so I'll try it when I'm working from there but that's it.
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But yeah the TW are prolific
But don't we all get these TWs anywhere?
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But don't we all get these TWs anywhere?
Not as many as you get with VS and Backpage.
Try it and you'll see what we mean.
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I see, thanks. I saw the free ad once (or more than once). Most girls (99%) are under 24. I would stand out like a geriatric which has put me off.
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I see, thanks. I saw the free ad once (or more than once). Most girls (99%) are under 24. I would stand out like a geriatric which has put me off.
No you wont. There are ladies on there of all ages guys will book you who will want a lady of your calibre and style.
I do agree plenty time wasters no matter website you advertise on. You will get bookings.
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That's nice, thank you, DD :) As someone else/other posters said earlier, I do feel that it depends on the areas? If you are in the South East/Home Counties around London, it may work better? Nice to see the positive post, though.
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I feel it does work in London to but you need to have some fund to invest so your advert is always at the top - move to top - for set amount of hours your are doing incalls. As during the day time there are the same amount of adds (pimp/agency) who go hard in posting. So least yours wont fall down to the bottom.
That is what I do when doing Incalls.
When I am back to outcalls only I have auto-everyday repost that comes out at 8pm x
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It sounds great, DD, if it works in your area. :) I do see positive reviews posted by ladies who work in the South where I visit very rarely these days. :)
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I find cracker easy to use but when I tried using backpage it asked for bit coins. I don't want to use them has anyone else had this problem?
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Backpage wants me to pay by bit coin but I won't use them. Anyone else having problems? Cracker is fine.
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Hi ladies... !!
I see all information
;) Thank very much xx
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I've merged this because it's thesame.topic although I have a feeling we have another thread somewhere too.
I'm sure somebody will be able to update things :).
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For some reason I thought backpage had become london Cracker?
Do you still use Backpage and have you ever used Cracker?
Thanks
Sirenna
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It's the same post on v Ackerman get put on backpages
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I wasn't sure whether to put this in the Where to Advertise thread or here, apologies if in the wrong place. I did a search but couldn't find anything. Has anyone experienced this? I looked for my ad and could not find it, then looked at my account and apparently it's been community removed, no reason why.
I've tried to do another ad, it says it's live but it isn't, it's not there at all, even under the 'date' heading. I have contacted them about the missing ad but not holding my breath. I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong! The ad I renewed that was removed had been up for a while before, no issues.
:FF :FF :FF
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Merged this here in case the answer is above somewhere :).
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Merged this here in case the answer is above somewhere :).
Thank you!
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I wasn't sure whether to put this in the Where to Advertise thread or here, apologies if in the wrong place. I did a search but couldn't find anything. Has anyone experienced this? I looked for my ad and could not find it, then looked at my account and apparently it's been community removed, no reason why.
I've tried to do another ad, it says it's live but it isn't, it's not there at all, even under the 'date' heading. I have contacted them about the missing ad but not holding my breath. I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong! The ad I renewed that was removed had been up for a while before, no issues.
:FF :FF :FF
It sometimes takes some minutes up to an hour to show. Check your Backpage or cracker account if it?s there, it will show.
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I have noticed old location ads still showing or used by other sites even though they are expired.
I have clicked on the 'MOVE TO THE TOP/EDIT/DELETE" link but I only get the option to renew not delete. Does anyone know how to permanently delete backpage/cracker ads?
Thanks in advance.
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Once you go into "Manage ad" there's an option to delete.
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Is there any option to post ad in backpage without posting your number?
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Backpage wants me to pay by bit coin but I won't use them. Anyone else having problems? Cracker is fine.
Put money into your account on cracker, then you'll have the ability to pay on Backpage. In fact, I think posting on cracker automatically puts you on Backpage.
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Put money into your account on cracker, then you'll have the ability to pay on Backpage. In fact, I think posting on cracker automatically puts you on Backpage.
This. Cracker is Backpage "back door". Same site, it just doesn't work in the states for legal reasons.
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I just payed with my debit card too (has a little visa logo) on my card and had no problem. I think this is happening in the US, not Europe.
Thanks Ana will try that as I use visa instead :)
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Could I ask is cracker UK based I've never heard of it
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I found I accidentally pressed something and it?s taken me to several other options like adpost and postit.
I see Glasgow escorts reduced from two pounds an hour to one pound an hour.
Think the fiver an hour for London excessive especially when it?s a separate fiver for Central, North, Northwest etc.
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Cracker too just stopped accepting credit and debit cards for ad payments, only taking bitcoin and paysafe.
Is anyone having the same problem??
why oh why???
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Apologies, i think they just changed (again!) their payment system since yesterday and you have to go through some weird loophole to access the credit/debit card system in order to pay.
I don't really know what's going on but these people are driving me insane by the minute :FF
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I've been paying with Bitcoins for 6 months now I think.
I set up an account with Coinbase. They charge a fee to buy and transfer Bitcoins, so I usually just top up my Backpage account with one larger amount to avoid further fees.
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if you're paying your ads with bitcoin you must be paying a fortune per ad girrrl... I stopped paying them with bitcoin 2 years ago when one bitcoin was like 3000 pounds. i couldn't afford paying my ads with bitcoin anymore!. Last time I checked bitcoin prices (yesterday) it was LIKE 6,500 FOR ONE BITCOIN!! I was like WTF ARE U KIDDING ME???!%$!
god I wish i had invested in bitcoin two years ago :FF :FF :FF
the good news is that bitcoin is going to crash very soon and ads will be very cheap ;D
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Oh damn... It's quite possible as I've never been particularly money savvy :-\
I spend around ?100 a month on BP, this month so far ?140
I'm actually rooting for alternative currencies. Anything is better than money controlled by private central banks.
neosurf pay vouchers is your best option :-) they belong to paysafe and you can get them in any off license/food store.
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Oh wow THANK YOU Ana :-*
I just find it's the cheapest way of paying. to be honest I'd rather not use my debit card on BP because it got hacked once right after doing a BP payment, so i don't trust BP with my card details.
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I just find it's the cheapest way of paying. to be honest I'd rather not use my debit card on BP because it got hacked once right after doing a BP payment, so i don't trust BP with my card details.
Sounds great, will buy neosurf from now on.
Thanks for sharing. xx
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Now they arent even accepting Neosafe, just Cryptocurrency. Help! Never used Bitcoin. Can someone explain the process - where to buy etc? Cant make head or tail of it.
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Not happy backpage removed the video clip section. That helps a lot to set those who authentic from fake ads ... I used to get a lot of clients from my ads when movie clips were allowed on their ads.
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Now they arent even accepting Neosafe, just Cryptocurrency. Help! Never used Bitcoin. Can someone explain the process - where to buy etc? Cant make head or tail of it.
I've just updated my bitcoin for backpage guide for the last lot of changes on my website if that would help. Sorry I don't post on here often and can't remember if I can link to it or not. Feel free to @ me on twitter or let me know if I can post it here x
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I've just updated my bitcoin for backpage guide for the last lot of changes on my website if that would help. Sorry I don't post on here often and can't remember if I can link to it or not. Feel free to @ me on twitter or let me know if I can post it here x
From the forum rules (thread directly above this one):
Please don't post links to other sites on the forum, including to your own ads. If you want to include your link you can add it to your Forum Profile, but remember it will then be displayed underneath your username and available to anybody reading your posts.
We're not an advertising site, but if you think punters in the UK would find it useful I'm sure there are SEO things you can add to help them find it :).
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Backpage has gone! I tried to log in and it cant be reached. I searched backpage on twitter and there are tweets stating its been taken down and the ceo arrested. I don't have AW so this is awful!
At least there are alternatives for us in the UK but in the US? I can't believe it!
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Sorry seen the update in cracker section someone posted. Amy can this be deleted I don't know how to do it.
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Holy shit snacks. Glad I didn't load up too many credits!
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I am pissed I put dam bitcoin on two adverts today.
Back to AW it is.
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I noticed something was up - this morning as I tried to post an ad and refused to load it. So I forgot about it and did something else
RIP backpage :-X
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RIP backpage. You sure shall be missed :-[
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After buying bitcoins!! Great!!
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I had a few quid in my account but nothing terrible.
I guess vivastreet will be more necessary, now.
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I had a few quid in my account but nothing terrible.
I guess vivastreet will be more necessary, now.
Unless they get nicked for allowing agencies.
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I had around 80 quid in credits.
My business is literally gone.
What way did you purchase them?
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Bitcoins via Coinbase :(
That?s unfortunate. :-(
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It's a dutch company! why oh why?
i'm going to call leonardo from backpage on monday and l'll see what he says.
OMG.
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Cindy McCain, wife of Sen. John McCain and an outspoken advocate against human trafficking, said she had heard that federal law-enforcement officials had raided not only Lacey?s home but every office of Backpage world-wide.
?They?ve confiscated everything and shut the website down,? she said.
McCain called it a ?good day? in the fight against human trafficking.
Fucking hypocrites
BP headquarters is in amsterdam, the fBI cannot go into another country and raid an office that is complying with it's national laws (in this case the dutch laws). so i wonder how they managed to close down the server. whenever the FBI has raided a website in another country so website was not complying with the locals laws (which is not the case here). pressure from US government? i dunno ??? I've tried to follow he whole thing in the news and they're not saying mych except that backpage has been sized, no arrests have been made.
Ok, so i just read some updated news:
"The charges were filed in Arizona because the website was founded and is maintained here and it?s also where Backpage.com's servers are located"
how stupid would be to have the servers in arizona? ???
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I'm also reading things online now and trying to fully grasp what's really happening but as I'm also drinking gin from all this stress, so it's tricky!, what dawns on me is that we're in a GOOLAG of censorship and things look grim.
BUT... when there's a will, there's a way. And the will to fornicate is a powerful one.
lol!!!
Can you save a bit of gin for me please?? i really need it ;D
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If any of you have lost credits paid by card you can do a chargeback. It?s not like they will be able to argue at the other end lol.
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I just tried to make a payment the websites have all been shut down. Is there a loop hole?. So glad that I am in my final stages of departing escorting.
You said that before lol. As did I. 😆
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Ladies, I thought I will wake up with a clearer head and some answers but it looks bad.
I was aware of SESTA/FOSTA but I didn't pay enough attention until literally all my income is gone with seizure of Backpage.
Censorship of the internet will only get worse as free internet gives too much power to the people.
We live in the world where we're cattle on a human farm.
I support Myles Jackman on Patreon, will support Pandora Blake too as she's doing a good job.
I'm looking into openrightsgroup.org now
What part of the country do you work in? X
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Yes bear in mind all the guys that used bp / cracker won't stop punting, they'll just find other ways to find us. I never paid bp for an ad and recently had an ad pulled and couldn't readvertise but would have liked to. I found the whole bitcoin thing far too confusing anyway.
Liking the support on here though, that's what we are all about! :)
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It might be time to start uploading our websites to every regional escort directory going, at least then if sites do start getting shut down, we have our individual sites up.
Oh gosh I can see it going back to vague advert discriptions, where the clients are guessing what we doing.
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True but a lot of the clients I had from BP were here on business or not seasoned punters knowing where to look for a sexy massage; I think they just did a little online search and BP was on top of Google (Goolag >:()
Now on top you have agencies - and those guys will go there not knowing any better, instead of looking for independents.
I don't do massage I'm afraid but hopefully we can put our heads together and find alternatives and help each other out.
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i believe Backpage truly fu-ked up out of sheer greediness. Before the CEO got arrested and all the lawsuits etc... BP should have taken down the erotic/dating sections and massage services in the US right away, leaving those sections open in the rest of the world were it's legal (just not in the US). A least they would have kept their business running and still have some nice earnings. However they decided to go into a power struggle with high and powerful sections of the government, and that was stupid because it's what has ended their business.
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Advise to sensual massage providers: google "sensual massage -your city-" and see what comes first up top on google.
oh lord... I hope someone comes up with a substitute for backpage :FF
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cityoflove.com is not working for me this morning.
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i believe Backpage truly fu-ked up out of sheer greediness. Before the CEO got arrested and all the lawsuits etc... they should have taken down the erotic/dating sections and massage services in the US right away, leaving those sections open in the rest of the world were it's legal (just not in the US). A least they would have kept their business running and still have some nice earnings. However they decided to go into a power struggle with high and powerful sections of the government, and that was stupid because it's was ended their business.
I was just saying this to a friend. They could clearly see which way the wind was blowing and any prudent business owner could have seen clear courses of action to avoid this. Instead they decided to rinse the US to the last drop, and now they've lost their income from the UK, Aus, and anywhere else they're a player. Fucking idiots.
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I was just saying this to a friend. They could clearly see which way the wind was blowing and any prudent business owner could have seen clear courses of action to avoid this. Instead they decided to rinse the US to the last drop, and now they've lost their income from the UK, Aus, and anywhere else they're a player. Fucking idiots.
Amen.
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This is pretty terrifying on the other hand:
"Feds charge Backpage founder after human-trafficking investigation"
/www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/07/backpage-prostitution-charges/495701002/
However, Trump is due to sign FOSTA/SESTA today and if he does this 70 year old man can go to jail for a long time. MICHAEL LACEY BP FOUNDER WHAT WHERE YOU THINKING DUDE!!! why didn't you shut down the erotic services in the US much sooner!! ???
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It hasn?t been working since last night. Me and my friend tried posting around 3pm yesterday and that?s when it starting acting up so we knew something was up. It wasn?t until yesterday evening that they fully shut down the site. It?s all over social media.
Does anyone know any alternatives? AW I?ve got already but the bookings don?t come as consistent as backpage does. It?s so awful, and it?s bitter sweet.
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This weekend I'll work on my website and do some marketing research.
Will update in the 'Where to Advertise' once I get some results.
I'll stay posted :-)
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how come other US websites have not been taken down? It is only a matter of time before it comes to UK
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how come other US websites have not been taken down? It is only a matter of time before it comes to UK
My 2 cents:
a) They're not directories where other services are being advertised (like real state or looking for a nannie ads), so there;s no "civvie traffic" going to the escort ads.
b) They are sex industry directories exclusively designed for punters, so unless you're one hardly no civvie person knows it (meaning: they get less attention so they're not good when it comes to politicians using the shut down for their own political agenda).
c) They are well monitored and censored with less graphic images). You need to send ID, passport, etc..
d) They don't have 20 lawsuits from parents of trafficked teenagers.
e) They keep themselves low key with servers and headquarters in other countries and don't play "who has the biggest dick" game with the US government .
f) They're not all over the press.
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Or all of the websites and directories will run from countries where they won't be closed down...
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Ffs all the hassle I had last week with Bitcoin and now they shut it down great :FF
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I`ve found a interesting article explaining what happened with backpage (I didn`t knew some of the details) and this one is clearly pro safe sex work : http://www. dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/39608/1/why-sex-workers-are-fighting-for-internet-freedom-and-their-lives
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I'm hearing rumours in the punting forums/sex industry related bedpage might the the alternative??? it's very slow at the moment and takes some time to load. anyone heard anything? It's worldwide and veeeery similar to backpage and was created very very recently as in March 2018....hmmm....
s://www.bedpage.com/login
https://www.bedpage.com
Copy+paste
"Looking for the alternative to Backpage? Bedpage.com is an alternative site to Backpage; one of the platform for classified advertising. Here you will get services like real estate listing, job listing, vehicle, electronic items and other products".
(Is this a joke?)
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I'm getting a 404 server error notice when trying to look at backpage escort listings.
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I'm getting a 404 server error notice when trying to look at backpage escort listings.
You mean: bedpage?
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No, backpage. I see in the New York Times that backpage and associated sites, cracker presumably, have been seized by Federal authorities. R.I.P. Backpage.
Will keep an eye on bedpage.
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I see what you mean. Press release mentions both bedpage and postlocalad. Bedpage was very slow loading, now server not responding at all. Not holding my breath that either site will be a source of clients any time soon, but here's hoping.
Jeez, I'm going to have to get friendly with vivastreet, that bottomless pit of time wasters. :FF
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I see what you mean. Press release mentions both bedpage and postlocalad. Bedpage was very slow loading, now server not responding at all. Not holding my breath that either site will be a source of clients any time soon, but here's hoping.
Jeez, I'm going to have to get friendly with vivastreet, that bottomless pit of time wasters. :FF
Mine is loading fine everytime i click on it (?). I do have a strong internet conection though. I just clicked on Boston and I got this (I'll copy past it) :
Important Notes:
Backpage.com is no longer free for posting ad in its adult section, on backpage people are unable to post title and description in their ads, to overcome this issue we have introduced a fresh brand new website www.bedpage.com , bedpage.com is alternative to backpage where you can post multiple ads in 1 day without any restrictions and it will never block your ip for posting multiple free ads with in a day.
if you are looking for posting your ad in Boston for following cities-
Backpage Boston
Back page Boston
then YES, you are at the right place.
NOTE:- If you would like to bring your ad on the top in search results then follow the simple steps-
1)Put your cityname and service directly in your ad title.
2)Post Premium ad to be on the top in the listing for 1 week.
3)Sponsor your ad so that your ad would be eye catching for most of the visitors.
I'm under the impression that some
(I'm under the impression that someone/s is working on this directory as we speak)
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Went onto ebackpage, clicked on London, then escorts, and that diverted onto bedpage, so it's an associated site.
Backpage made $135 million in 2014, 90% of it from adult ads. They're not just going to walk away from that kind of income.
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Went onto ebackpage, clicked on London, then escorts, and that diverted onto bedpage, so it's an associated site.
Backpage made $135 million in 2014, 90% of it from adult ads. They're not just going to walk away from that kind of income.
Nope. They're working on it really fast. whoever is doing it they have some balls.
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I'm seeing women already posting their ads on bedpage Belfast escort section.
tp://belfast.bedpage.com/femaleescorts
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I'm sure a few months ago bed pages were sending out texts saying backpages has closed ,when you go on they site same format as backpages pages ??seem backpages known what was going to happen and opened bed pages
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I'm sure a few months ago bed pages were sending out texts saying backpages has closed ,when you go on they site same format as backpages pages ??seem backpages known what was going to happen and opened bed pages
Maybe this was their plan b? but with the owner of BP sitting in jail as we speak this is quite a ballsy move. Unless of course they're not associated with bP which is a possibility because its a canadian directory aparently.
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Jist registered on bedpage slow as hell
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Jist registered on bedpage slow as hell
yes, it's pretty slow to to load, looks like they're working on it as we speak (the ads were NOT there 3 hours ago) I did register (backpage style with an e-mail), then got the link to my email, then i logged into my new bedpage account. i'm seeing that they paypal and credit card as payment options. they also have the "buy credits option". I'm not going to post right away cause it looks like they're still working on it so i'll wait a few days and see what happens.
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That sounds great 80's, unfortuntely fighting doesnt pay my bills ??? However im more of a believer in greed being one of the most important forces of mankind. You and i lost some income,but someone lost millipns, and someone else Was probably waiting silently to jump for the cake. We're talking about a millionaire operation, and if you let it go someone else will be waiting there to jump on it.l'll just let the universe evolve naturally.
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Thanks Ana - if you would :).
Incredible as it might seem, I have better things to do with my weekend than fuck about splitting off all the posts that are nothing to do with BP and moving them to a thread where people might find them useful, especially when I'm on my way back from holiday and my phone battery is on its bare arse. I also don't expect a very clear instruction to be ignored.
I haven't got the energy to move all the off topic posts today, so I'll look forward to doing it all on my free Sunday instead, at least before the ER omnibus starts. The Where To Advertise is where we'll find them after that.
Right, I've tidied this as best I can and moved relevant posts to the WtA thread at the top. I've also removed two posts which were not just off topic but offensive, and whilst I've left the existing ones we need to lighten up on the press urls. Endless reading of speculative articles by low rent online publications isn't just tedious, it's unhelpful and we're not here to promote other sites.
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Shame Backpage didn?t move the credits to bedpage too but anyway would make sense to only top up what you need as you go.
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I'm seeing women already posting their ads on bedpage Belfast escort section.
tp://belfast.bedpage.com/femaleescorts
And that will soon spread to other areas.
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Maybe this was their plan b? but with the owner of BP sitting in jail as we speak this is quite a ballsy move. Unless of course they're not associated with bP which is a possibility because its a canadian directory aparently.
I cannot fucking believe they are still running the adult section in the US.
I would strongly recommend not loading up more credits than you need in one go.
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I cannot fucking believe they are still running the adult section in the US.
I would strongly recommend not loading up more credits than you need in one go.
Likely because they know it will take many months to close them down and trying to get more revenue.
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I cannot fucking believe they are still running the adult section in the US.
I would strongly recommend not loading up more credits than you need in one go.
I cannot fucking believe it either. I researched on it and it's a Canadian directory.
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Shame Backpage didn?t move the credits to bedpage too but anyway would make sense to only top up what you need as you go.
Maybe they're not the same people, and if they are, and with their servers sized it's not like they're going to ask the FBI "can you guys please return the credits to the girls please?" lol
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Maybe they're not the same people, and if they are, and with their servers sized it's not like they're going to ask the FBI "can you guys please return the credits to the girls please?" lol
lol no 😂 wonder if FBI will keep our money.
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lol no 😂 wonder if FBI will keep our money.
Oh my god, I heard they all went out shopping this weekend with all our bitcoins! :D
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It's blatantly obvious that they sub-contracted making this duplicate by using the cheapest bidder on freelancer or elance. Obviously not a native English speaker.
"bedpage.com is an intuitive PC benefit that empowers access by numerous clients and ought not be dealt with as the distributer or speaker of any data gave by another data content supplier."
OK dude :D
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Posts that appear to be more to do with backpage, bitcoins and so on (neither of which I have ever used, which is probably why I clearly buggered up the tidying earlier) moved back to backpage thread.
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I cannot fucking believe they are still running the adult section in the US.
I would strongly recommend not loading up more credits than you need in one go.
All the other sites like TER ER are still running you just can't access them from the states ATM
It just means that guys will need VPN if in the states to access them
I've just posted on Bed page and it was relatively easy if a bit slow
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All the other sites like TER ER are still running you just can't access them from the states ATM
It just means that guys will need VPN if in the states to access them
I've just posted on Bed page and it was relatively easy if a bit slow
did you payed for the ad?
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did you payed for the ad?
Yes there isn't any free option as far as I can see
You have to buy credits min 20USD using PayPal then use the credits to place the adverts
I'm the only one In my area lol 😂
It's relatively cheap to post 1dollar a week and it get cheaper the longer you post
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I not touching bed page then if it requires PayPal payment.
As I have had issues with Backpage and my debit card, being used by some twat after I used it on Backpage, there's no way in hell I using my PayPal account. Adult services, are they stupid.
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I not touching bed page then if it requires PayPal payment.
As I have had issues with Backpage and my debit card, being used by some twat after I used it on Backpage, there's no way in hell I using my PayPal account. Adult services, are they stupid.
I wouldn't trust using my debit card either, but pay pal is pretty secure in my opinion.
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You can pay for other featured advertising on bP like if you were selling a car or bike so unless your paying using your work email I don't know his they would know what your actually advertising
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however i'm seeing this directory ends with a dot com. Will P411 have issues since it is a dot com? I was reading that a dot com domain falls under US jurisdiction...
(XV5 where are you when we need you so you can explain this better to us?)
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I not touching bed page then if it requires PayPal payment.
As I have had issues with Backpage and my debit card, being used by some twat after I used it on Backpage, there's no way in hell I using my PayPal account. Adult services, are they stupid.
You can?t use PayPal for adultservices anyway but I think you could use a pre loaded debit card.
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All the American sites TER p411 ER are still up and working - im a member of them all and I checked today
However You can't access them in the states but you can if your outside or if you use a VPN or Tor
P411 aren't taking on any new American escorts as customers unless they have reviews but that was the case when I signed up 2 years ago but I'm pretty sure they are based in Canada where escorting is perfectly legal to do .
thinking about it loads of adultsite are blocked in Dubai and the Middle East but guys and escorts always know how to advertise and mainly use a VPN to access the sites and massage sites like MR & twitter and Locanto aren't blocked and other sites like Dubai hottie just keep redirecting the sites to new domains sometimes every week 😂
I think it will probably eventually go this way for the states i.e. Using VPNs to access sites and possibly for us in the uk later
The main difference is that prositution is illegal in the us but it's not illegal here
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however i'm seeing this directory ends with a dot com. Will P411 have issues since it is a dot com? I was reading that a dot com domain falls under US jurisdiction...
(XV5 where are you when we need you so you can explain this better to us?)
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Pretty sure P411 is based in Canada
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You can?t use PayPal for adultservices anyway but I think you could use a pre loaded debit card.
yes but people have been able to post on the new site using paypal. i mean... they can't be THAT stupid and put "paypal" as option knowingly that it won't pay for adult services... duh!
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Just thought I would mention that the hosting platform I used for my website "escortdesign" vanished at exactly the same time BP did. My domain was displaying links to other sex services! Wondering if there is a link to BP?
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Just thought I would mention that the hosting platform I used for my website "escortdesign" vanished at exactly the same time BP did. My domain was displaying links to other sex services! Wondering if there is a link to BP?
I read somewhere that my Escort design was hosted in the us which is why it's gone
There is s website called the John's report that' has info on all the site that are gone totally or can only be accesse outside of the US or with a VPN
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Explains it! Thanks Paris
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I read somewhere that my Escort design was hosted in the us which is why it's gone
There is s website called the John's report that' has info on all the site that are gone totally or can only be accesse outside of the US or with a VPN
Well with the 230 communications act law gone it makes total sense many websites dissapeared as they risked jail.
Ladies: keep in mind that The laws regarding internet hosting and directories in the US changed 2 weeks ago and a new law was approved by congress.
The free internet is a thing of the past from now on. It was fun while it lasted >:(
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Well with the 230 communications act law gone it makes total sense many websites dissapeared as they risked jail.
Ladies: keep in mind that The laws regarding internet hosting and directories in the US changed 2 weeks ago and a new law was approved by congress.
The free internet is a thing of the past from now on. It was fun while it lasted >:(
Isn't this only for the US though it's not really affecting the Uk yet
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Isn't this only for the US though it's not really affecting the Uk yet
Oh well.. yes and no... the Feds could have close the US section of backpage yet they closed the whole damn thing in the rest of the world, we have all lost a lot of income, plenty of escorts who had their site hosted with myescortsite.com have lost their site, reddit closed the sex worker forums were everyone from different parts of the world would discuss stuff (including myself)...so... yes... it's affecting us and everybody out ot the states too (insert angry emoji).
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Oh well.. yes and no... the Feds could have close the US section of backpage yet they closed the whole damn thing in the rest of the world, we have all lost a lot of income, plenty of escorts who had their site hosted with myescortsite.com have lost their site, reddit closed the sex worker forums were everyone from different parts of the world would discuss stuff.. including me...so... yes... it's affecting us and everybody out ot the states too (insert angry emoji).
Yes I know it's affecting parts of the UK it was massively popular in Belfast and the rest of Northern Ireland as well
lol his crap with BP has shown why it's really important not to rely on just one form of advertising
I've been a bit lazy in recent months / years in term of advertising
I mainly used my own website BP and VS and twitter AW and that's always been more than enough for me work wise
But I used to do a lot of advertising in the past and I have recently gone back over all my old adds updating them this weekend and plan to keep on doing this every week
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wow! i just read all the indicment against the 5 people arrested in relation to Backpage (owners included). Actual charges: 50 counts of violating the Travel Act, 34 counts related to money laundering, & 1 count conspiracy, meaning: The indictment against #Backpage does *not* rely on #FOSTA & does *not* accuse Backpage of knowingly facilitating sex trafficking.
So this is all about money laundering. ???
So why do they say "sex trafficking" when what they really meant was "money"?
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So why do they say "sex trafficking" when what they really meant was "money"?
Because financial crime isn't salacious or emotive, and doesn't shift copy anywhere near as well.
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Hello journalists: Let?s be clear: Language in indictments about alleged activities that are not charged in the indictment are nothing more than meaningless speculation.
In any case, closing. sites. that. safely. facilitate. sex. work. will. not. be. the. death. of. sex. work. just possibly the death of safer sex work.
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It is almost like the shut down of bp has been a sign to me to keep going on my journey.
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Oh God, I just had a client coming to my house asking for my number because Backpage is gone and he couldn't find me online anymore! :o ;D
Girl, that's love! (but time to get a website) ;) Hope you told him about bedpage.. :-) (nothing like good ol door to door marketing lol).
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Oh God, I just had a client coming to my house asking for my number because Backpage is gone and he couldn't find me online anymore! :o ;D
Lol that?s so funny yet adorable
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By mixing prostitution between consenting adults and sex trafficking, human trafficking, sex with minors, money laundering, etc. etc, they make sure to win in the media and in parliaments.
A politician who opposes this law would be accused by his opponents of being in favor of human trafficking and pedophilia.
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There's actually like a great article on The Guardian today denoucing the shutdown of sex workers websites and directories. I'm so glad this is spreading out on the media and hitting on the head the "trafficking doom and gloom campaign". I'll post the article on the media section of the forum.
gossip: I just read today that the Mc Cains, the US congressman and congress woman who went after Backpage soooo heavily (and are mostly to blame for the shutdown) had a personal vendetta against the BP owners stemming 20 years ago. Before creating bP the owners Micheal lacey and the other guy (who used to be journalists) wrote a few articles tearing apart Mc cain, so when he became congressman one of his goals was to go after these guys. He's screaming "trafficking" but this is a personal vendetta.
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I don?t know about bedpage to be honest
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wow! i just read all the indicment against the 5 people arrested in relation to Backpage (owners included). Actual charges: 50 counts of violating the Travel Act, 34 counts related to money laundering, & 1 count conspiracy, meaning: The indictment against #Backpage does *not* rely on #FOSTA & does *not* accuse Backpage of knowingly facilitating sex trafficking.
So this is all about money laundering. ???
So why do they say "sex trafficking" when what they really meant was "money"?
Yes, they have also been charged with "facilitating prostitution". I suspect the money laundering charges have been brought to make it easier to hit them with a massive fine. They will have to pay back a lot of money in exchange for a reduced jail term. They're also relatively easy charges to make stick i.e. follow paper trails + apply existing laws. Even Al Capone got jailed for tax evasion, because it was easier to prove than murder and racketeering.
Some Senator (female, Republican - ah, the evangelical ladies after saving us, thank you Ma'am for sending us back to our street corners) has referred to advertising sites as 'cesspools of crime'. Backpage was not the end of the matter, in all likelyhood, and other sites will run into trouble. Trump has now signed the anti-trafficking bill.
Apparently, girls as young as 14 have been advertised on backpage by pimps against their will. I don't doubt that for a second, and it is completely unacceptable, of course. This well-publicised trouble has been brewing for some time. I wonder why backpage decided against introducing a verification system like AW and eros to take some responsibility to keep minors safe.
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There's actually like a great article on The Guardian today denoucing the shutdown of sex workers websites and directories. I'm so glad this is spreading out on the media and hitting on the head the "trafficking doom and gloom campaign". I'll post the article on the media section of the forum.
gossip: I just read today that the Mc Cains, the US congressman and congress woman who went after Backpage soooo heavily (and are mostly to blame for the shutdown) had a personal vendetta against the BP owners stemming 20 years ago. Before creating bP the owners Micheal lacey and the other guy (who used to be journalists) wrote a few articles tearing apart Mc cain, so when he became congressman one of his goals was to go after these guys. He's screaming "trafficking" but this is a personal vendetta.
Is that John McCain? The previous presidential candidate from... 2008 I guess? Shot himself in the foot taking on Sarah Palin as running mate I may have been slightly over-invested in that election given I don't live in the US and have never visited
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Is that John McCain? The previous presidential candidate from... 2008 I guess? Shot himself in the foot taking on Sarah Palin as running mate I may have been slightly over-invested in that election given I don't live in the US and have never visited
Yep.
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Interesting. When he was running his wife didn't strike me as having any actual political thoughts in her head, she just fancied living in the White House and being referred to as First Lady. Or perhaps he's dumped her? She was wife number 4 I recollect.
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Interesting. When he was running his wife didn't strike me as having any actual political thoughts in her head, she just fancied living in the White House and being referred to as First Lady. Or perhaps he's dumped her? She was wife number 4 I recollect.
I doubt he dumped her as she comes from a VERY wealthy family. Her father, Jim Hensley, was a convicted mafia guy who mixed with organized-crime figures before founding his company in 1955 (oh the irony!). On 2000 there was a cover story on the New York times ( "Haunted by Spirits") which detailed McCains relationship to the beer industry and the politician?s reliance on his wife?s fortune.But the 1994 bombshell, "Opiate for the Mrs", written by Amy Silverman, was the piece de r?sistance. The story exposed the McCain machine?s Arizona apparatus as it endeavored to silence a former employee of Cindy McCain?s nonprofit American Voluntary Medical Team, which flew medical supplies and doctors to Third World countries and war-torn areas.
The whistleblower had tipped off the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration that Cindy McCain was addicted to Vicodin and Percocet, and that she had been using AVMT as her personal pharmacy, pilfering the pills to feed her addiction. Silverman?s story destroyed the McCains attempt to spin the tale as that of a senator?s spouse heroically going public with her drug habit in order to help others in a similar situation.
When all those articles trashing the Mc cains got published in the New York times GUESS WHO owned the newspaper at the time? Michael Lacey and James Larkin., the actual owners of backpage who got arrested.
Reach your own conclusions in this space.
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Can we get back on topic, please?
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ebackpage.com is it working
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What are you guys using instead of backpage? My top two sites were aw and backpage and now left with aw only which is not enough. :(
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I am thinking about putting an advert in the paper but have a feeling that it will be time waster central. Has anyone had any success with paper ads x
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I am thinking about putting an advert in the paper but have a feeling that it will be time waster central. Has anyone had any success with paper ads x
I can only speak for using Friday ad in the Brighton area but yes a print ad did bring me more business. It was a pensioner demographic though, generally without smartphone or Internet so I had to give very specific instructions on how to get to me, etc. If you're happy to see older guys (my oldest one was 92 and lovely!) then I'd go for it. I didn't experience any increase in TW, in fact I'd say the opposite.
Since Backpage went down I've had an increase in enquiries from UKAdultzone and My Local Escorts.
I've since moved areas and haven't tried print Ads since.
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Looking at the thread here I realized that it has been blocked, deleted BP... :FF
the 90% of my work in Manchester came from BP A total penalty
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-leads-effort-seize-backpagecom-internet-s-leading-forum-prostitu
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Mirando el hilo aquí me di cuenta que ha sido bloqueada, eliminada BP
"Looking at the thread here I realized that it has been blocked, deleted"
(Google translate is your friend!)
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This is another linguistic conundrum :-\ All I understand is that Backpage is bloqueada... and eliminada?...
Excuse hun ... I google translate, then copy / paste then trancribe here in English ,I was wrong and i was copy here in hispanis
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WOW! and now craigslist "therapeutic section" in europe has been removed too!!
WTF is goin on?? ???
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If anybody bought credits with Cracker and lost them you will easily be able to do a chargeback as nobody will be at the other end to dispute anymore.
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If anybody bought credits with Cracker and lost them you will easily be able to do a chargeback as nobody will be at the other end to dispute anymore.
How would that work when its past the date and month? If it can be done I will do it as I spent allot on stupid bitcoins and that day the site was pulled down after purchasing bitcoin from my credit card
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You won’t be able to do chargeback on the bitcoins but if you paid Cracker directly with card for funds before Viva withdrew then you are entitled to do a chargeback.
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You won’t be able to do chargeback on the bitcoins but if you paid Cracker directly with card for funds before Viva withdrew then you are entitled to do a chargeback.
I did use cracker directly before they removed the card payment system. I give it a try but seems months back.
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WOW! and now craigslist "therapeutic section" in europe has been removed too!!
WTF is goin on?? ???
now people post those ads in other sections of "Services"...
I tried CL in the past and to me it is not good (I am not UK based).
Might the removing be related to sesta/fosta and/or the new European laws on privacy?
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now people post those ads in other sections of "Services"...
I tried CL in the past and to me it is not good (I am not UK based).
Might the removing be related to sesta/fosta and/or the new European laws on privacy?
The new EU laws on privacy have nothing to do with FOSTA, in fact they're the total opposite. Why would CL remove a full section that offers services that 1) are perfectly legal in europe and 2) doesn't make the directory liable for it's content (thanks to EU law) I have no idea. Me thinks it has more to do with protecting CL as a brand. You have to remember that nowadays CL are getting all their money from the US paid sections: real state section in the big cities, plus car ads, plus the employments section. Whe're talking thousands of daily ads at 25 dollar per ad. That's almost 125000 US dollars a day in profit. the therapeutic section in Europe was free (so no income from there) and it had the potential of hurting their brand so they got rid of it. Makes sense to me.
The good ol days where you could sell a pram and a blowjob in the same directory are long gone. Times are changing, laws are changing and we just need to adapt. :)
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The ladies have moved to the beauty section in Craigslist lol.
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The new EU laws on privacy have nothing to do with FOSTA, in fact they're the total opposite. Why would CL remove a full section that offers services that 1) are perfectly legal in europe and 2) doesn't make the directory liable for it's content (thanks to EU law) I have no idea. Me thinks it has more to do with protecting CL as a brand. You have to remember that nowadays CL are getting all their money from the US paid sections: real state section in the big cities, plus car ads, plus the employments section. Whe're talking thousands of daily ads at 25 dollar per ad. That's almost 125000 US dollars a day in profit. the therapeutic section in Europe was free (so no income from there) and it had the potential of hurting their brand so they got rid of it. Makes sense to me.
The good ol days where you could sell a pram and a blowjob in the same directory are long gone. Times are changing, laws are changing and we just need to adapt. :)
Hi Ana, many thanks for your explanation. I also agree that CL wants to protect its brand...
Concerning privacy: in my opinion, CL has its own approach when it treats sensible data... but I do not want to derail from the thread so I stop here :) xx
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The ladies have moved to the beauty section in Craigslist lol.
also small biz ads lol
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Hi Ana, many thanks for your explanation. I also agree that CL wants to protect its brand...
Concerning privacy: in my opinion, CL has its own approach when it treats sensible data...
Yes, and they're probably making money from that too (but like you said I won;t get into it as to not derail from the topic) ???
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also small biz ads lol
yes, and if they continue eliminating sections they'll be left with no directory ;D
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...The reason I'm writing it on the Backpage thread is that we're seeing what has been happening after SESTA/ FOSTA.
It impacted badly safety and livelihood of those in the USA.
If you lost your income after closing down of Backpage, consider taking action and sending an email...
Exactly. I still can't get over what has happened to BP.
In the thread that you have linked, it says that proponents of the Nordic model are sending in as many submissions in response to the inquiry as possible. The more of US fighting back, then, the better, I say. (I have sent in a submission).
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Thanks for the reminder, I will send mine in too
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Yesbackpages now on Google page 1 for New Jersey. May only be a matter of time before it takes off here.