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Queen.of.Wands

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I do not show my face in my ads but surprisingly get very few requests for face pictures or any additional pictures at all.

I am considering setting up a new process in which I engage with potential clients individually on that basis to know who I might be connecting with.

I would not be too concerned about a sharp drop in volumes (I do this on the side).

I am wondering if someone here videocalls/facetimes/skypes or requests/trades pictures with clients privately before the first meeting?

I would be interested in knowing the motivation behind this as well, whether for example as a means to screen/get a better sense of clients, to build authentic rapport (if escorting)… etc.
« Last Edit: 11 November 2022, 12:13:04 am by Queen.of.Wands »

amy

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God no. I have ample clear and accurate pictures on my site so they already know what I look like, and I couldn't give a toss what they look like. I just want to know when they want to book and for how long, and to establish this as quickly and easily as possible :D

Rosie13

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I just feel like it’s an opportunity for phone wankers to abuse and it’s putting in more time than necessary that I’m not getting paid for. I’m more interested in getting a deposit if booking in advance or if seeing a client who has let me down before then the where/when/how long for/services and cracking on with my day.

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Queen of Wands,

Like you, I do not show my face in my ads.  I have scant few pictures too.  I had a private gallery for a while which could only be accessed by those who had been screened, but even then, the gallery contained no pictures of my face, or any particularly risqué images.  I would never, ever, share pictures of myself with a client, especially a potential one, because you cannot control what happens to the image once you have shared it.

While I do like to exchange emails with clients prior to deciding if I want to meet them, I don't trade pictures with them or even speak on the phone.  I can get a really good sense of someone from written communication.  Also, a potential/new client cannot just book me, I need to assess him.  I am very clear in my ads about this.  As I screen using ID, I know what all potential clients look like.  However, their looks makes no factor in my assessment.

I do not offer short meetings, and all meets include social time in public, so getting a feel for client and building a rapport is important not only to me, but my clients.  My way works very well for me.  However, I am part-time, have a regular clientele and am not really looking to take on new clients. 

What I must ask is why do you want to change your process?  Is it because your current way of doing things is no longer working, or maybe you're not getting the quality of clients you want?  It might be worth examining these things first and if it's the latter, looking at not only your ads and their written content but also where you're advertising,  your prices and your services.


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No way, it feels intrusive. This is the sex industry not f_cking Tinder. Plus anyone can record the conversation, take a screen shot and put your face into a free facial software on the web and find out your real name and personal details.
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Queen.of.Wands

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Amy

lol. I can’t say that I am too surprised to hear this from you given your no-nonsense approach. I wish I were a bit more like that. I initially did as well, wanting to be as transparent and fair with clients as I could, so that they knew who they would be seeing. But ultimately decided to remove those because of my day job working with the general public at a busy company. Although I love and can handle the rawness of it this industry, I have to say that the surprise factor sometimes throws me a bit off. I feel that if I am prepared, I can handle situations better.
 

Rosie,

I agree that reliability is key. I would not be broadcasting that I have this process in place. Simply offer it to those men that I would normally accept bookings from. No doubt, it would be time-consuming, but worthwhile for me because I would feel more relaxed which would benefit the client (not that I’ve had any complaints). I tend to refuse longer bookings because of this. Clients want an hour minimum and I just offer them half an hour instead… Often, I even decide to pause this work for a while just to feel more centered.

Queen.of.Wands

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Miffy,

I think we are somewhat similar, not much of risk takers but risk takers nonetheless. I also keep my communications in written form for the most part but then request a confirmation phone call because I am not as comfortable as you relying on my intuition alone. I do not (yet) assess clients against anything specific but think it is advantageous to do so on many levels, especially if interacting in public with clients as you mentioned. I want to change my process to feel slightly more secure/confident in my approach to this work. I will definitely consider those points you raised. May I ask if you use the AW system and which criteria factor in your assessment? Also, what tends to be the general response from potential clients when they hear that you screen using ID?


Ana,

You have a good point there. I agree in part but we are all adults who can make decisions for ourselves (meaning that they are free to refuse this and seek a more ‘traditional’ provider). Also, I feel that there is no right or wrong way, each one of us girls should go about this in the way that is best for us, as long as we are being considerate of others. Isn't there a niche for everyone? Surprisingly, this idea came from a potential client who sent me his face pic and wanted me to share mine at the precise point where I was starting to get a bit of cold feet about this work. Thank you for the warning about privacy issues, really appreciate it and I have taken good note of that!!
« Last Edit: 11 November 2022, 11:27:39 pm by Queen.of.Wands »

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I chose not to show my face in any photos and will never do that so the idea of video or photo sharing with a new client is just not something I could consider.

The element of surprise has always pleased me and I believe some men like that too, not knowing what he will see when that door opens.

Kay

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No, once in a blue moon a potential client will send a face pic unsolicited, but I'd never ask for (or send) one. Re. instinct, I go on the phone call I insist on.
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99% of people who request face pics or send me there’s never book. I do all my booking via text/email. I’d never want to get into a picture exchange as I just know it would be abused. It would also be time consuming.
I don’t show my face in any pictures. I’d be worried about someone using them to identify me.
You’ve mentioned you seldom get asked for face pictures. This would tell me that most people who see you aren’t worried about not seeing your face. I wouldn’t go and make more work for yourself when you don’t need too.

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I am wondering if someone here videocalls/facetimes/skypes or requests/trades pictures with clients privately before the first meeting?

I have on occassion exchanged pictures, done videocalls with clients but they have always paid for the service

Mirror

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I do not show my face in my ads but surprisingly get very few requests for face pictures or any additional pictures at all.

I am considering setting up a new process in which I engage with potential clients individually on that basis to know who I might be connecting with.

I would not be too concerned about a sharp drop in volumes (I do this on the side).

I am wondering if someone here videocalls/facetimes/skypes or requests/trades pictures with clients privately before the first meeting?

I would be interested in knowing the motivation behind this as well, whether for example as a means to screen/get a better sense of clients, to build authentic rapport (if escorting)… etc.

Yes I offer paid video calls, sexting, phone chat, photo and video packages either as introduction,creating a fantasy, or afterwards continuing the contact if they cannot make an in person booking.  Some I have never met but we continue with the virtual services.

One problem with photos is you have no way of knowing it's him, and certainly for me a photo does not tell me what he will be like in a booking. I always make this clear if he wants to send a photo it's for his satisfaction not mine. Also what I'm looking for is someone who recognises I run a business and have a life thus respecting my time. So be it phone chat, video call, photos or an Escort booking, I need clear requirements, details with minimum fuss.
« Last Edit: 13 November 2022, 06:09:51 am by Mirror »

Miffy

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Miffy,

I think we are somewhat similar, not much of risk takers but risk takers nonetheless. I also keep my communications in written form for the most part but then request a confirmation phone call because I am not as comfortable as you relying on my intuition alone. I do not (yet) assess clients against anything specific but think it is advantageous to do so on many levels, especially if interacting in public with clients as you mentioned. I want to change my process to feel slightly more secure/confident in my approach to this work. I will definitely consider those points you raised. May I ask if you use the AW system and which criteria factor in your assessment? Also, what tends to be the general response from potential clients when they hear that you screen using ID?


As you already know, there are many men who don't need to see a face picture before booking.  For those who need this, there are plenty of escorts who do show their faces, so if it is really important to them, they will seek them out rather than ask you.  To my mind, someone approaching me and asking for something I don't do is a boundary pusher, not a potential client.  Why should I, (or you), want to accommodate them? 

At the outset, I was aware AW would not be the right market for me given my screening process and various other factors, so did not use it.  Even so, and some time later (and out of desperation between pandemic lockdowns), I did try AW. As suspected, it wasn't the right market for me, not just because of my screening process but also due to my style of service and a myriad of other reasons. 

My aim is to screen out as many men before they even contact me.  More than a few clients have told me how magnificently off-putting my website is at first glance, but once they read through it, everything is crystal clear from my screening process (and what information they must supply).  Rather than hide behind the promise of a bespoke service, I am transparent about everything.  All of this further screens out clients.  To aid this further, I have two contact forms.  The time-wasters/those trying to avoid being screening always use the one that is just a blank message box.  Those who are serious about booking me use the other form that states exactly what information I need from them to successfully facilitate a meet - it is always supplied. 

I have no doubt that not using AW affords me more agency to work exactly as I please.  But then I also know that I am targeting a very specific client who accounts for a tiny percentage of the overall number of men who seek out paid services.  It is worth understanding that if you want to screen and/or exchange pictures, you will be cutting out a huge swathes of potential market. 

I have noticed many escorts who have their own website and use the same screening methods as I do, also use AW and/or agencies.  On their AW profiles, they do not ask for screening, just AW feedback, and as we know, agencies don't really screen.  This in itself suggests that they might struggle with their own screening systems/finding clients via their website so have to use other avenues.

Ultimately, there's a degree of trial and error with this.  If you can afford to potentially miss out on clients while you start using a new process, go for it. And if you do, don't rely on AW alone. That would be my advice - make your own website. 

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly - learn to start listening to your intuition. Many, including me, will tell you this is the most powerful screening tool there is.

However you proceed, good luck
« Last Edit: 13 November 2022, 08:31:15 am by Miffy »

Miffy

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PS. I think Ana66 used to ask to speak to potential clients via video call.  Hopefully she can offer some comments.  I think she started a thread too. Will try to find it.

RB1

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I’ve never shown my face in god knows how many years and I have no intention of doing so

I do the majority of my bookings by text I rarely speak to punters
I trust my own instincts on punter and if I lose a decent client because of this so be it
I screen them in my own way - so if they mention certain keywords on my profile or website  I know that they have read most of it
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