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amy

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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #15 on: 03 June 2017, 11:40:38 pm »
I think you're confused.

Nowhere have I or anybody else said that unprotected sex of any kind can't or shouldn't be discussed, and if you'd used the forum search function to look for 'bareback' there are ten pages of results for the Q&A board alone.

What we are saying is that consenting adults can and will have whatever type of sex they like and we won't tolerate others judging or condemning their choices. As ever, 'I wouldn't...' is fine. 'You/they shouldn't...' is not.

It also hopefully encourages sensible adult posting rather than the shrieking, hand-wringing Won't Somebody Think Of The Children shite that the subject normally provokes, which I'm sure we can all agree is such a joy to read.

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« Reply #16 on: 03 June 2017, 11:46:18 pm »
Amy beat me to it, as usual, so I will just add that if simply saying 'don't do it' worked, no-one would smoke, drink more than a few units of alcohol a week, or do the drugs that are currently illegal. Or do sex for cash.
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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #17 on: 04 June 2017, 11:32:30 am »
Amy beat me to it, as usual, so I will just add that if simply saying 'don't do it' worked, no-one would smoke, drink more than a few units of alcohol a week, or do the drugs that are currently illegal. Or do sex for cash.

Ha, I only looked in for a second. I'll also add that nobody who had been responsibly advised would go to IKEA on a Saturday afternoon.

The other problem with having unpleasant or lecturing posts directed at people purely because they offer a (perfectly legal) service that others might disapprove of is that it understandably puts them off posting about it. And people from all corners of sex work feeling able to post not just questions and concerns, but also general stuff about the way they work so we can all find out about different experiences people have is part of the reason we're here :).

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« Reply #18 on: 04 June 2017, 12:35:52 pm »
I still cant get my head round why someome would want to do BB in the first place and put themselves at risk.

Me either, its sheer desperation if you ask me and yes each to their own but come on!

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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #19 on: 04 June 2017, 06:35:50 pm »
A couple of months ago I was booked by a guy who turned out to be a Doctor, he had a stethoscope poking from a bag on the back seat and on his jacket that hung neatly on a hook was an I'd card from the local hospital. He asked me for BB and I commented that being a Doctor he should know better. He told me that catching Aids was not that easy although the risks are increased by unprotected anal sex

Sounds like he's not a real doctor and the  poking stethoscope is a trick to get bareback. I'm sure it has worked for him in the past.
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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #20 on: 06 June 2017, 02:50:36 am »
do girls still offer bareback in 2017 ?

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« Reply #21 on: 06 June 2017, 07:31:55 am »
Yes, obviously. And in 2018, 2019, 2020...
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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #22 on: 06 June 2017, 08:42:54 am »
do girls still offer bareback in 2017 ?

Yes, but luckily most men know the risks of HIV and don't actively seek it.

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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #23 on: 06 June 2017, 05:17:34 pm »
Yes, obviously. And in 2018, 2019, 2020...

that's only if they are still alive by 2020 🤣

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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #24 on: 06 June 2017, 06:54:43 pm »
that's only if they are still alive by 2020 🤣

  ;D And the award goes to...

Ian and Amy have a point though that bb adopters should not be made to feel bullied or that they cannot have a voice here. But it's good to have an open dialogue about these things.

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« Reply #25 on: 06 June 2017, 07:05:12 pm »
  ;D And the award goes to...

Yes, I daresay that one's worthy of an award for something. I couldn't possibly comment on what.

that's only if they are still alive by 2020 🤣

Assuming that this is in the context of the thread topic (given that any one of us could well be alive or otherwise in 2020) if the above indicates your understanding of how HIV works, I think a nice long chat with the folk at the GUM is long overdue?
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« Reply #26 on: 07 June 2017, 05:49:14 pm »
Me either, its sheer desperation if you ask me and yes each to their own but come on!

+1 I wouldnt say sheer desperation but have a few other thoughts about it
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amy

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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #27 on: 07 June 2017, 09:27:30 pm »
+1 I wouldnt say sheer desperation but have a few other thoughts about it

Well I'm glad you wouldn't say that, because it's an ignorant, patronising and thoroughly twattish thing to say, as is making assumptions about other adults' motives for doing anything just because they choose to do it differently to you :).

It's worth remembering that a significant percentage of the general population would view us all as 'desperate' and worse for no reason other than that we shag random blokes for money. Now if nobody has anything on the medication the OP was asking about, it's time to let this one die, I think.

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« Reply #28 on: 07 June 2017, 09:33:08 pm »
I think giving this drug out is not a good idea, it could promote promiscuity and if they ever decided to make it unavailable after a period of time, the results could be dire. I think cancer patients would have benefited more from the funds spent, we can avoid HIV they cant avoid cancer. We know how to protect ourselves and as adults we should be trusted to do just that.

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Re: anti HIV drug [was: anti aids drug]
« Reply #29 on: 07 June 2017, 09:42:00 pm »
I think giving this drug out is not a good idea, it could promote promiscuity and if they ever decided to make it unavailable after a period of time, the results could be dire. I think cancer patients would have benefited more from the funds spent, we can avoid HIV they cant avoid cancer. We know how to protect ourselves and as adults we should be trusted to do just that.

I agree LH. I don't think anything that might put people off having regular health checks is a good idea, and you're far more likely to catch just about anything else than HIV which will be missed if people don't bother going to get examined because they think they can't have anything 'serious'.

I think similarly about the posting testing kits - there's no substitute for having your health monitored properly by professionals and I think if the pre-exposure HIV meds became common in the industry, the false sense of security could see us looking at big increases in everything else.