Author Topic: Advice on a young escort needed... (Read 3986 times)

Welsh Lass · « **on:** 27 February 2009, 10:13:53 am »

Hi guys,
A bit of a dilemma here:
I have been made aware of a girl working around my area.
Briefly then:

She is pretty young, about 18 - yes legal but young. An escort working in Barry informs me she met up with the girl at her flat (somebody knew somebody, you know how this goes) so she went along to meet the girl and the girl barely said a word and every time she asked her a question she just indicated towards this guy that was there. He bragged about how much money she had earned and that she was getting 5-6 clients a day; when asked what ages of client she sees, she shrugged and apparently this guy just said - whoever books.
The most worrying thing (well maybe not the most from this girl's point of view) is that when she has a client he has the webcam on and pointed at the bed and is not only watching them on the TV downstairs (and listening as he has the mike on too) but possibly even recording them.
Any advice?
Any client would be stunned and horrified enough if they thought they were just being watched, but recorded!

I feel that I have a duty to warn people, but her clients aren't likely to be the type that would contact me and I can only really tell my most trusted regulars - at the end of the day anybody can ring me and make a booking and find out where I live and what I look like... But I am really concerned.
The guy does her profile himself and answers all her emails - it is the most disgusting set up I have ever heard - she looks barely 18 and the whole thing is making me feel sick.
I've heard of girls like this committing suicide before they get to 25 - she isn't unwilling, I don't think but she clearly has little or no choice in who she sees and I have no doubt that this would fuck up anbody at such a young age. Any suggestions please?

Violette · « **Reply #1 on:** 27 February 2009, 10:24:19 am »

Dear Lord! He is apparently pimping her, I doubt she sees a penny of the money she earns. If you call the police on him, she will probably deny everything, and protect him, she sounds as if her self-esteem is in the basement.
But something has got to be done, maybe befriending her? Do keep us posted. Kisses V

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Nell2 · « **Reply #2 on:** 27 February 2009, 01:45:24 pm »

OMG That is heartbreaking............

It sounds so awful and I was horrified to read this.

I don't know what to say or advise at this stage but I am definitely going to give it some thought and see if I can offer any helpful advice.

Alex

P.S Although the first thing that springs to mind is perhaps if someone can get to speak to her without the nasty bf being around? Does anyone know if she is contactable by phone?

brandy@saafe · « **Reply #3 on:** 27 February 2009, 03:03:24 pm »

Call Crimestoppers: 0800 555 111 - it can be done anonymously so you don't have to give anything away of yourself. They then pass on the information to the local police. What a disgusting situation. And good on you for wanting to do something about it.

Welsh Lass · « **Reply #4 on:** 27 February 2009, 10:23:18 pm »

Good idea Brandy, I shall do that.
Thanks.
x

LondonEvie · « **Reply #5 on:** 27 February 2009, 10:41:36 pm »

Quote from: Joanna on 27 February 2009, 10:23:18 pm

Good idea Brandy, I shall do that.
Thanks.
x

I'm with Brandy, doing anything will be better than nothing and by the sound of it the authorities need to be informed- Even if she is 100% in agreement with it all it should be looked into by them.

cassie · « **Reply #6 on:** 28 February 2009, 12:18:58 am »

Also they will be used to that sort of behaviour from coerced girls and will hopefully keep an eye in him even if they can't intervene.

The befriending thing will not work if she is completely devoted to him (brainwashed) and my put you in danger and as much as I feel for this girl I would not recommend putting yourself in danger for her. It may seem heartless, but i doubt she would take your side against him if something happened to you.

Welsh Lass · « **Reply #7 on:** 28 February 2009, 09:12:40 am »

There is no intention of befriending her. I can see that mistake before it happens!
Having unfortunately been in a relationship with a controlling man myself in the past (not to this bloody extent, obviously!) I know that there will be perhaps no telling this girl anything if she is so under the thumb, that she has to work out for herself and I have a feeling that anything reported will have her denying anything is the matter, but, this guy? What a shit. I mean really, it's so incredibly wrong.
The thing is, the dilemma is, do nothing and live with the knowledge that you did nothing and this carried on to whatever consequence it reaches or do something and risk not only exposure but retribution.
On that score, if everybody in the world did nothing when they see and know something is wrong, where would we be? Again though, I am no crusader and have no wish to be one.
Argh!
So crimestoppers is a good idea..
A better idea is crimestoppers after an amount of time has past to distance myself from it?
You know, my child is almost 18. I dread to think, I really do. Then of course it would be jail for me as I would pop that guy off faster than he could press record on his bloody camcorder.

Carla · « **Reply #8 on:** 28 February 2009, 06:59:31 pm »

It's difficult to get the right balance between helping and putting yourself in danger, but it's definitely the right thing to do in alerting someone in this case. Good on you for doing something to help her under these circumstances, he sounds absolutely despicable.

xx

lexienight · « **Reply #9 on:** 01 March 2009, 04:54:32 am »

sounds to me like you wouldnt be the only person to have worried about this girl and the biggest come back to prove it was you that called crimestoppers would be this thread. I dont mean this in a bad 'you shouldnt have discussed it' way, i just mean maybe you could ask brandy to remove it so the guy has no way of finding out where the info came from.

it also sounds to me that she wasnt quite so 'loved up' but actually scared of him in your prescence so perhaps she was silently begging for help. i suppose there is no real way of knowing until the police are involved but i wish you luck however you choose to go about it.

I'm a big gobby bird so would just go for the crimewatch soloution and do my best to cover my back on all sides. i come from the kind of back ground that tells me these big shots that mouth off are often small time twats trying to make out they are big time, but when the shit hits they have sod all back up. the real big timers with the real back up and the real scary shit are usually a little more discreet and have a few people around them and have known reputation already but i wasnt there so its for you to judge. if in doubt, ask brandy to remove this thread, contact crimestoppers and keep us all informed via pm. we are all here to look out for each other so do what you can.

xx

Trafford · « **Reply #10 on:** 01 March 2009, 07:58:16 am »

One thing I have learnt over the years is that doing something to help someone in this business, does quite often end with the helper herself in the firing line and so already its a difficult decision you have, as others have pointed out.

Firstly, how much of this are you sure is the truth and how much is gossip? I ask because another thing I have learnt, is that much of what people tell others in this business, is often not the truth, wierd personal agendas are everywhere. The 'competition' aspect of this industry can bring out the worst in people - are you sure this other escort from Barry is telling the truth? What is her view on it all, what has she done or thinks should be done to help the girl?

If the girl is pimped, how will her 'boyfriend' react to her if he lost his income - is there an outreach project near you from whom you could take advice and who could look out for her in a more official capacity?

I'm not saying do nothing, just be careful for her and your benefit.

Welsh Lass · « **Reply #11 on:** 01 March 2009, 09:37:05 am »

Thanks all of you for the advice.
I am pondering.
x

amy · « **Reply #12 on:** 02 March 2009, 11:18:04 am »

I know pimping is against the law anyway, but surely spying on people or God forbid, recording them without their knowledge is too? I'm paranoid about hidden cameras when I do home visits and even hotel bookings. I don't know anything about a webcam's recording capabilities.

My instinct would be to report it, but if the lady in Barry is frightened of recriminations (and it is likely to eventually come back on you, as she will almost certainly tell them who reported them if anything happens) I don't honestly know. I'm inclined to agree a bit with Trafford as well, even though I have a Crimestoppers link on my site and feel like a real hypocrite for it at the moment. I would guess that he is just a small time chancer who doesn't know a lot about the industry, but that is small consolation if you live in a small town and are worried about getting outed, or worse.

Does the Citizen's Advice Bureau deal with stuff like this?

brandy@saafe · « **Reply #13 on:** 02 March 2009, 02:51:59 pm »

Quote from: amy on 02 March 2009, 11:18:04 am

I know pimping is against the law anyway, but surely spying on people or God forbid, recording them without their knowledge is too? I'm paranoid about hidden cameras when I do home visits and even hotel bookings. I don't know anything about a webcam's recording capabilities.

My instinct would be to report it, but if the lady in Barry is frightened of recriminations (and it is likely to eventually come back on you, as she will almost certainly tell them who reported them if anything happens) I don't honestly know. I'm inclined to agree a bit with Trafford as well, even though I have a Crimestoppers link on my site and feel like a real hypocrite for it at the moment. I would guess that he is just a small time chancer who doesn't know a lot about the industry, but that is small consolation if you live in a small town and are worried about getting outed, or worse.

Does the Citizen's Advice Bureau deal with stuff like this?

I understand what you're saying, but if Jo wants to do something, regardless of whether or not she should, I would still say to call Crimestoppers. Or get her colleague to do it.

And no, the CAB's useless when it comes to this kind of thing, or at least, this industry. They'll just tell you to go to the police.
When I had a escort-related problem, I gave them a call. That's the advice they gave me.

See also the main SAAFE.info site for more Support And Advice For Escorts

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