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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: SWgirl on 08 October 2019, 07:35:53 pm
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Looking for some advice here, as the title says I feel “cheap”!
Many guys comment that my rates are slightly lower than average and say I am cheap and in turn makes me feel cheap.
When I first started I was brought into this world by another girl. She told me how to price myself to get guys coming in thick and fast (supposedly). However, I find with my lower rates I attract younger more idiotic guys that just simply waste my time or the older chaps who are looking for a deal then try to haggle me once I’ve seen them once.
Don’t get me wrong I’ve had some great clients and established regulars but my question is am I ok to increase my rates? Will this discourage the twats I am attracting and stop guys calling me cheap?
I’ve increased my quickies by 10 already as I am not a fan of doing those.
General advice on what I should do would be great as I am worried I’ll lose some guys I’ve seen before which I’d happily see again but keep on my current rate too.
Thanks in advance x
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What area are you? x
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What area are you? x
South west x
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Sorry I’m north so probably different there. I would say my rates are reasonable. 70£ half hour £110 an hour. Sometimes wonder if I’m too cheap. In the north west area
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The furthest I will go is West Midlands which I plan to do a tour of soon. The average I’ve noticed for my area is 130-150 and I’m 120. But when I go to a different city it’s an even higher average. Maybe I should adjust accordingly? Just worries I’ll lose the good ones when trying to bat away the bad ones lol.
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Charge whatever you feel comfortable with. It’s your body so only you can decide what rate to charge for your services. I don’t think there is ever a right or wrong with this one. What I will say is that you are never “cheap” for choosing to charge a lower price than others in your area. You have to find what works best for you
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Charge whatever you feel comfortable with. It’s your body so only you can decide what rate to charge for your services. I don’t think there is ever a right or wrong with this one. What I will say is that you are never “cheap” for choosing to charge a lower price than others in your area. You have to find what works best for you
Thank you for saying that. It as made me feel down the past few days. Trial and error I suppose?
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We are all “cheaper” than someone and we are all more expensive than someone. **
(**In terms of what we charge for our time in this role).
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We are all “cheaper” than someone and we are all more expensive than someone. **
(**In terms of what we charge for our time in this role).
That’s very true. Would I eliminate some of the twats I am attracting by jumping up an extra 10 or 20 though?
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They're practically begging you on their knees to price them out! ;D
Put it up till they stop saying it and go off to annoy someone else! Less work more money, nicer clients.
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Put it up till they stop saying it and go off to annoy someone else! Less work more money.
I feel you. I’ll give it a try this week and see how I go. Don’t want to go too high though. Hate making decisions like this. I feel bad!
Omg I did it. Let the chips fall where they may. I went for 20 as 10 isn’t anything really. Yikes!
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Start with pricing your time as equally to the others you’ve seen in your area / similar features and services to yourself... and see how you do.
You’ll get dickheads at any and all price levels. At least with higher rates they’re making putting up with them more appealing, you’re eyes will be far better compensated for all the rolls they do.
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Start with pricing your time as equally to the others you’ve seen in your area / similar features and services to yourself... and see how you do.
You’ll get dickheads at any and all price levels. At least with higher rates they’re making putting up with them more appealing, you’re eyes will be far better compensated for all the rolls they do.
Thank you. I feel like I was “trained” to work a certain way but now I am on my own I want to change. I opted to keep my half hour the same but introduced 45 mins at my “old” hourly rate.
Fingers crossed I have weeded out some of the douches as it wasn’t appealing anymore to do the bookings.
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I know many SWs say go high, but personally I see nothing wrong in charging a reasonable price, and I don't agree that it only attracts dodgy or less pleasant clients. I wouldn't increase your prices for the sake of it.
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I know many SWs say go high, but personally I see nothing wrong in charging a reasonable price, and I don't agree that it only attracts dodgy or less pleasant clients. I wouldn't increase your prices for the sake of it.
I do hear you on that. However I had been wanting to do this for a little while but was cautious about it all. I’m now in the middle for my area and I feel better for it. Plus as I only work from hotels and I travel a good hour plus for work I am just breaking even half the time.
I just can not afford to continue this way unfortunately but also it was making me feel cheap from the comments I was getting too.
I don’t think I’m being unreasonable as only changed my hour and additional hours are still my old hourly rate on top. Just the first hour is slightly higher as well as my 15 mins (which I don’t like to do much of anyways).
Overall I’m feeling positive and well if it does hit me in the face, lesson learned. But what I have realised is that there are clients for all price ranges. For me it’s about targeting the ones I enjoy the most.
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One thing I have noticed with rates and competition - this time last year I was £20 less per hour, which was about average for my area and I was extremely busy.
I put my rates up to what they are now, which 6 months ago, was higher than the average. Now, rates around me have increased and my current rates are now quite average for my area. I could easily increase them by another 20-40 ph given how diverse and niche my services are, and how much I dedicate to marketing. I may do so in the next while but for now I am happy with my business levels and my ability to be selective over my clients.
Moral of the story: charge what you want and what you feel you can justifiably charge based on your services and those of your competition.
Good luck, I am sure you will be fine!
PS - clients likely mean that your rates are low for the quality of service you provide as opposed to you being "cheap".
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One thing I have noticed with rates and competition - this time last year I was £20 less per hour, which was about average for my area and I was extremely busy.
I put my rates up to what they are now, which 6 months ago, was higher than the average. Now, rates around me have increased and my current rates are now quite average for my area. I could easily increase them by another 20-40 ph given how diverse and niche my services are, and how much I dedicate to marketing. I may do so in the next while but for now I am happy with my business levels and my ability to be selective over my clients.
Moral of the story: charge what you want and what you feel you can justifiably charge based on your services and those of your competition.
Good luck, I am sure you will be fine!
PS - clients likely mean that your rates are low for the quality of service you provide as opposed to you being "cheap".
Thank you for that. I have learned over time prices do fluctuate. I am still a noob in this world also so coming on here for advice is a god send!!
I do provide a lot of different things to cater to as many clients as possibly, just not the kinky bdsm type though.
I’m not the lowest but I’m not the highest either and I feel better for that. Also feel like I have finally cut ties with the woman I started with. It turned sour fast and I feel much better for it now
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South West - yes, you may be a bit cheap.
North West - rates are much lower.
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South West - yes, you may be a bit cheap.
North West - rates are much lower.
I looked into surrounding counties and they are coming up the same as where I am. Thanks for your input.
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I’m in the southwest ( Bristol) I charge 120- 160 for the hr
80 - 100 for 30 mins. The lower price is for GFE higher price is Dom and I have a few prices in between at 130 - 140
I do 15 mins blow and go no sex £50.
I’ve never changed my prices even when I tour but it means 9 times out of ten I’m always pretty busy it also means I can pick my clients and never worry that I have to see a client because I’m Quiet and I need the money .
Do I think I’m to cheap - maybe for the services I do include on the GFE but it doesn’t mean I am a cheap hooker but it means I rarely work late evenings and very rarely have a quiet tour and like I said I can turn down the idiots and the ones I don’t want to see for whatever reason
But if a guy really wants to see you then they will pay what you
Also you may lose a lot of your regular clients. I still have a few old time clients that pay me from years ago when I used to charge £100 for the hour But they are lovely and regs of 7 years so I don’t mind that
Make sure you tell them that the price is xxx when they call or text otherwise they may turn up with the wrong amount
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I’m in the southwest ( Bristol) I charge 120- 160 for the hr
80 - 100 for 30 mins. The lower price is for GFE higher price is Dom and I have a few prices in between at 130 - 140
I do 15 mins blow and go no sex £50.
I’ve never changed my prices even when I tour but it means 9 times out of ten I’m always pretty busy it also means I can pick my clients and never worry that I have to see a client because I’m Quiet and I need the money .
Do I think I’m to cheap - maybe for the services I do include on the GFE but it doesn’t mean I am a cheap hooker but it means I rarely work late evenings and very rarely have a quiet tour and like I said I can turn down the idiots and the ones I don’t want to see for whatever reason
But if a guy really wants to see you then they will pay what you
Also you may lose a lot of your regular clients. I still have a few old time clients that pay me from years ago when I used to charge £100 for the hour But they are lovely and regs of 7 years so I don’t mind that
Make sure you tell them that the price is xxx when they call or text otherwise they may turn up with the wrong amount
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Definitely and make sure it is the lovely regs you keep on that rate, I spent a long time with unreliable time and boundary pusher regulars on lower rates (funnily enough they tended to be the ones who wanted that rate whereas non boundary pusher/simple bookers would turn up with the new higher amount) when I could have probably replaced with decent full payers.
Even now some nice ones insist on bringing higher than the lower.
But you are correct Paris.
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There's nothing like just breaking even to make me feel cheap. Very disheartening feeling.
I offer a "special price" but it's strictly on my terms. They think they are getting a good deal but it's based on the kind of bookings/clients that I favour & find easier.
I used to say everything was included in my price aside from certain niche Fetishes but I've added extras recently with generic stuff to make my money up.
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Thanks guys for your input.
The only extras I have is foot fetish, watersports and strap on but I don’t charge extra for the hour I include these. No difference for girlfriend or pornstar type services either it’s all included. Perhaps that’s where I was going wrong including so much for the lower than average rate.
I will make sure to tell clients I’ve seen before about the changes unless I like them of course lol. There are a couple who could do with a little wake up call.
I haven’t been picky about who I see at all as I was taught to not turn anyone away basically and that’s another mistake of mine. Lesson learned. On wards and up wards.
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Thanks guys for your input.
The only extras I have is foot fetish, watersports and strap on but I don’t charge extra for the hour I include these. No difference for girlfriend or pornstar type services either it’s all included. Perhaps that’s where I was going wrong including so much for the lower than average rate.
I will make sure to tell clients I’ve seen before about the changes unless I like them of course lol. There are a couple who could do with a little wake up call.
I haven’t been picky about who I see at all as I was taught to not turn anyone away basically and that’s another mistake of mine. Lesson learned. On wards and up wards.
Definitely this too, I was going to suggest 'screen, screen, screen'.............sounds like you've got it. I spent a lot of time being understanding and lenient, and accepting everyone including not laying down rules and boundaries. Result took a lot of energy from me, and ended up quite stressed which wasn't fair on punters/clients who didn't need that amount of input.
I think you'll find the changes refreshing.
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I already feel weight off my shoulders to be fair. I would cram in as many services as possible in my hour so that’s possibly where the “cheap” comments came from. But also I take a lot of last minute bookings and just have a quick chat then go for it.
I’ll be asking more questions as I’ve added different offers to my profile etc.
I’m working tomorrow so fingers crossed things are better for me.
I was also thinking of offering massage. Do you need to be trained for this? Because I’ve done it on my family for years and just learnt by watching YouTube haha
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Thanks guys for your input.
The only extras I have is foot fetish, watersports and strap on but I don’t charge extra for the hour I include these. No difference for girlfriend or pornstar type services either it’s all included. Perhaps that’s where I was going wrong including so much for the lower than average rate.
I will make sure to tell clients I’ve seen before about the changes unless I like them of course lol. There are a couple who could do with a little wake up call.
I haven’t been picky about who I see at all as I was taught to not turn anyone away basically and that’s another mistake of mine. Lesson learned. On wards and up wards.
if it was me I would keep the basic rate 120 GFE service
If they want a PSE rate that would defiantly be higher rate ( I don’t do PSE though )
Then I would do a Soft Dom rate inc Strap on Watersports maybe PSE at a higher rate
15 mins I don’t take booking for they need to be near by and get to me within 15 mins and it’s a bj only inc cim
I’ve recently changed my pictures and have some with me in catsuit boots latex and the amount of guys that want that in with my standard GFE is unbelievable
Even though I clearly state GFE inc lingerie little black dress high heels blah blah
And if they want the catsuit boots latex or leather book a fetish’s / Dom appointment
Nope it’s only for my Dom app only which I charge more for
I’m not jumpining in and out of an expensive and likely to be ruined outfit unless the client is paying the extra money for it - and they do
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if it was me I would keep the basic rate 120 GFE service
If they want a PSE rate that would defiantly be higher rate ( I don’t do PSE though )
Then I would do a Soft Dom rate inc Strap on Watersports maybe PSE at a higher rate
15 mins I don’t take booking for they need to be near by and get to me within 15 mins and it’s a bj only inc cim
I’ve recently changed my pictures and have some with me in catsuit boots latex and the amount of guys that want that in with my standard GFE is unbelievable
Even though I clearly state GFE inc lingerie little black dress high heels blah blah
And if they want the catsuit boots latex or leather book a fetish’s / Dom appointment
Nope it’s only for my Dom app only which I charge more for
I’m not jumpining in and out of an expensive and likely to be ruined outfit unless the client is paying the extra money for it - and they do
You read my mind I was literally about to put that on my profile. GFE at normal, PSE at the higher as that is so much more effort and typically what the younger guys want (which are hard work and tend to be the problem).
I think I’ve seen your profile on AW and if you use the same name on here then you got it going for you!!
I’ll have a re jig on my profile now and get it all sorted.
Thanks so much to everyone for their input.
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You read my mind I was literally about to put that on my profile. GFE at normal, PSE at the higher as that is so much more effort and typically what the younger guys want (which are hard work and tend to be the problem).
I think I’ve seen your profile on AW and if you use the same name on here then you got it going for you!!
I’ll have a re jig on my profile now and get it all sorted.
Thanks so much to everyone for their input.
I’ve sent you a pm
😂yes that’s me don’t know about got it going for me though
- give me till Sunday and I might have by then 😂😂
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Offering a "two tier" service definitely gives me the best of both worlds.
My basic GFE is 40 (owo and cim, no sex), 60 for half hour. If I tour down South I will increase that by a tenner each. I then have a higher rate which I market as VIP and includes other extras such as shared shower, massage, anal play and rimming. For that I charge 100/hh, £150 per hr.
I prefer bookings of quickies and half hours, so my prices are set to attract those clients. I'd say put your prices to make the bookings you enjoy more attractive (sounds like that's 1hr?) I'd also suggest removing sex from your quickies as this tends to really slow down the bookings, whereas my oral quickies are often done in 5 mins. Of offer sex for an extra £10. And if anyone asks, I say "Because after sex I need to have a wash etc which takes up more time."
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Speciality services like water sports and strap on i charge xtra £50-£60. anal xtra £50 to £80 depending on demand or how willing the client is to pay. Rimming xtra £80.
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I’ve had a right re jig of my profile and separated gfe and PSE and in shorter bookings if they want it all they gotta pay for it!
I really do appreciate all of this advice it’s been such a weight lifted off my shoulders. I needed this re vamp and looking forward to testing it out now.
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Offering a "two tier" service definitely gives me the best of both worlds.
My basic GFE is 40 (owo and cim, no sex), 60 for half hour. If I tour down South I will increase that by a tenner each. I then have a higher rate which I market as VIP and includes other extras such as shared shower, massage, anal play and rimming. For that I charge 100/hh, £150 per hr.
I prefer bookings of quickies and half hours, so my prices are set to attract those clients. I'd say put your prices to make the bookings you enjoy more attractive (sounds like that's 1hr?) I'd also suggest removing sex from your quickies as this tends to really slow down the bookings, whereas my oral quickies are often done in 5 mins. Of offer sex for an extra £10. And if anyone asks, I say "Because after sex I need to have a wash etc which takes up more time."
I agree with removing sex from the quickie I just do owo /cim NO SEX for 50 /15 mins you do have to tell them on the phone or by text that no sex is inc as a lot think a quickie includes sex I always text them any prices / services as I know that way there is no misunderstanding
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I agree with removing sex from the quickie I just do owo /cim NO SEX for 50 /15 mins you do have to tell them on the phone or by text that no sex is inc as a lot think a quickie includes sex I always text them any prices / services as I know that way there is no misunderstanding
I’ll be making it very clear! I’ll also be asking more questions about what they are looking for as before I waited until they were in the room (how I was taught).
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I’ll be making it very clear! I’ll also be asking more questions about what they are looking for as before I waited until they were in the room (how I was taught).
I always text them the prices / services as even regs can make mistakes
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I always text them the prices / services as even regs can make mistakes
Another check mark on my to do list
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im £130 in my area most ladies are £150.
I am always busy and im not sure if its because im that little bit cheaper but it doesnt bother me to be cheaper x
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im £130 in my area most ladies are £150.
I am always busy and im not sure if its because im that little bit cheaper but it doesnt bother me to be cheaper x
I think it’s good to be priced competitively for sure. But after the advice from the ladies in here I have stopped including it all across the board and charging extra for speciality services now.
Feeling much better for it as well as was getting to be hard work for me so I wouldn’t be looking forward to work much.
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I think it’s good to be priced competitively for sure. But after the advice from the ladies in here I have stopped including it all across the board and charging extra for speciality services now.
Feeling much better for it as well as was getting to be hard work for me so I wouldn’t be looking forward to work much.
I’m glad your feeling better about things
There is nothing worse than feeling anxious and Stressed in this work
My way of thinking if you include everything there is nothing more to for you to
tempt clients with
When I go on an all inclusive holiday i will try everything on offer because I’ve paid for even if it’s Something I’m a bit meh about I think well why not .
Some clients can also think this way in that if your inc strap on watersports Domination for the same price then why not try it as it not any extra cost to them
Those that want stuff like this will pay for it
Not that I’m comparing sex work to a fortnight all inclusive in Benidorm ladies or that we are like an all you can eat Chinese’s buffet 😂
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I’m glad your feeling better about things
There is nothing worse than feeling anxious and Stressed in this work
My way of thinking if you include everything there is nothing more to for you to
tempt clients with
When I go on an all inclusive holiday i will try everything on offer because I’ve paid for even if it’s Something I’m a bit meh about I think well why not .
Some clients can also think this way in that if your inc strap on watersports Domination for the same price then why not try it as it not any extra cost to them
Those that want stuff like this will pay for it
Not that I’m comparing sex work to a fortnight all inclusive in Benidorm ladies or that we are like an all you can eat Chinese’s buffet 😂
Haha I know exactly what you mean. It was the way I was shown was to offer them the world and they will keep coming back. The woman I worked with even offered bareback to keep clients coming back and that’s something I flat out REFUSED to do!
I will report back after my work this week. I am ready to conquer that’s for sure
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The more expensive you are, the less they haggle.
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The more expensive you are, the less they haggle.
That is so true.... Men really do work in mysterious ways!!!
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That’s what I’ve found after my changes. Hardly anyone questions it. I get less calls but I am happy with that as less time wasters too