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Mieux

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Agency to good to be true??
« on: 10 December 2009, 06:53:54 pm »

I would like to become a courtesan and I am trying to find a reputable
agency.

I am 23 years old and studying my last year in university. I am hoping not
to get taken advantage of, due to my inexperience in this industry.

I have found your website very helpful, and was wondering if you gave
private advice?

If so, my question is if either of these agencies sound familiar?

http://www.lechabanais.com/
http://www.annabailey.net/

I have checked on your link for the punter list websites- and have not
found them there.

I have already gone to an interview with Peter Harris, which I was told is
the director of le chabanais. This simply consisted of a chat in a private
members club in marble arch.

They haven't asked for any money for a registration fee and when I told
them I couldn't afford images they said that it was ok.

I wrote them an email last night, asking whether I could find any reviews
of them online or if they were registered in any reputable listings- and a
few various other qst. I gleaned from your website- and so far haven't
received a reply.

I wanted to reach the highest standard- which would require training with
the director- which I agreed to. This was supposed to be booked for this
weekend but haven't received a reply as of yet.

Please, if you know anything about these websites it would be great for me
to gather more information to make an informed decision.

Kind regards,
Mieux
« Last Edit: 12 December 2009, 12:15:27 am by Mieux »

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #1 on: 10 December 2009, 07:13:12 pm »
*sighs...*


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I wanted to reach the highest standard- which would require training with
the director- which I agreed to. This was supposed to be booked for this
weekend but haven't received a reply as of yet.

Oh dear, oh dear!  So you think in order to work as a courtesan you need to perform on the casting couch with the director?  Please ask yourself, if you went for any other job - would you sleep with the director to get the position?  Don't you think that this would sound sleazy?

Please before asking people to 'show you the ropes' and thus telling them that you are ripe for exploiting just read the entire SAAFE site top to bottom and then once more.  No reputable agency would expect you to sleep with the agency owner!  That in itself is one of the oldest scams in the world.  I am very glad that you found this site but you do need to actually read up on all the advice & info gathered for it to be of use to you.  My personal advice would be so to not meet the 'director' for 'training' and actually look up agencies that advertise on busy industry forums, such as Punternet and Punterlink.   

Mieux

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #2 on: 10 December 2009, 08:01:48 pm »
Any good agencies of the top of your head that you could suggest?

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #3 on: 10 December 2009, 08:18:29 pm »
thank you- i am just getting used to this website and I really am greatful to have found it!

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #4 on: 10 December 2009, 11:25:46 pm »
I wanted to reach the highest standard- which would require training with
the director- which I agreed to. This was supposed to be booked for this
weekend but haven't received a reply as of yet.
Welcome Mieux,
It would be interesting if you emailed them to give you a discription of what the training consists of and how they reply to the question: 'do I have to have sex with anyone during the training?'

I had a quick look at the two sites you mentioned and member access only sites are generally of a dubious nature. Why would people pay just to view the ladies available?

As BH said read the main site thoroughly and read all the relevant posts in the forums they will give you comprehensive information on how to spot the scams and users.

You will also notice from the posts that the majority of Ladies here are indies and don't have much experience with agencies.

Good luck.
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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #5 on: 11 December 2009, 04:12:29 pm »
Instead of spending so much time on answering unsolicited PMs I will address the queries on the board, especially as this seems to be a recurring perennial theme among new posters.  Ladies when looking for escort work from agencies don?t be dazzled by greed and fantasy ?Pretty Woman? type dreams.  Please especially those of you who say they are studying that must mean you are quite smart (one hopes) so ask yourself ? why would you meet the director in some club and then need to meet him again for training for this kind of work?  What do you need training for?  Is there some Health & Safety for Harlots I am unaware of?  Some magic courtesan Finishing School or City & Guilds in Strumpeteering?  Seriously, what on earth would you need to be instructed in?  Surely if you are aiming for the loftier heights of VIP companionship one would hope you can hold a conversation and know how to use a knife and fork!         

I really don?t want to sound harsh and especially not scare of ladies of asking questions.  But if you enter this kind of work you really need to keep your wits about you and not fall for the most obvious cons.   If someone recruits you for their agency ? they don?t need to ?test drive? you!   All they should be concerned with is that you are the lady on the photos you sent/given them, are old enough and happy to work on your own free will.  They will check your size and stats and also find out what services you are happy to provide.  No money needs to be handed over as no legit agency would ask for an admin fee or ?insurance? etc.  Some agencies will obviously charge for photos but often they take the money from your first bookings.
   
And if you ask for recommendations for agencies it would be really great if you could give other forum members a teensy weensy hint of your location...  Are you even based in the UK and if yes ? where?????  Sadly, my telepathic powers are lacking!  Plus if you found this site and are for example studying, surely you have some knowledge about using your browser to search for various industry sites.  You mentioned that you found punter sites and asked the director for reviews for his agency ? surely the logic next step might be to look at agencies that do actually have reviews and feedback from clients!  Sadly, I could not give advice what agencies might possible cater for the lofty heights of upskale kortisons ? being a mere mortal wench!    ;D

 

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #6 on: 11 December 2009, 04:51:11 pm »
Chere mieux,

Honey's right.... I work for an agency and found mine by typing escorts " where I live" into google..... sounds simple but it works! It usually brings up a list of various agencies so they're really not hard to find. Then you call them, have a quick chat, meet up, get your photos taken et voila... they send you work. All f this email shannanigans you have going on at the moment seems a bit bizarre to me  ???
 Adult work  or maybe punterlink (I can't remember which one, maybe both) also list reputable agencies in every area of the U.K.

As frequently posted on here, the 'real' agencies are the ones that don't ask you for money and who don't require you to sleep with the owner (although even some legit agency owners still push their luck with the latter).

But to be completely honest with you, I myself am with an agency but I think going independant is probably your best bet then you don't have to rely on someone else to get you work.

Good luck sweetheart
(and don't be taken in by any of these morons you've been emailing, please!)
Love
Sophie
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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #7 on: 11 December 2009, 06:26:15 pm »
Adult work  or maybe punterlink (I can't remember which one, maybe both) also list reputable agencies in every area of the U.K.

Punterlink. Adultwork do remove profiles sometimes but they're known for letting a lot slide.

You also need to remember Punterlink don't positively vet the agencies. As I understand it they let any site that appears to abide by the rules have a listing, then remove any that turn out to be dodgy. Using reputable listings is a way to reduce your chances of finding scammers, but you still need to approach with caution.

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #8 on: 11 December 2009, 06:56:21 pm »
Mieux - I came across one of these agencies during my search as well but did not pursue it. Do let us know how you get along with them bearing in mind all the good advice you've received regarding "training"

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #9 on: 11 December 2009, 08:29:13 pm »
U have all been wonderful and despite the hilarious sarcasm, I am still learning a lot-

After reading this site as thoroughly as I could- I sent an e. mail with various qst

 "In regards of the shoot. How will this arrangement be made, how will the
payment to the photographer be made? Also who will own the images as I
wouldn't want anything like this to be leaked as I do intend on having a
professional career when I'm older.

How can I make sure that you are indeed an established agency, that you
are infact running. Are you on any good established listing sites like
Punternet?

As for my own eventual payment, will I be payed straight in to my bank
account and what will the percentage be from the eventual salary I am
earning. What is my salary?

Can work be guaranteed?

As for the training, I really am interested in learning the art of the
courtesan, decorum- etiquette- is my meeting with Peter a preliminary date
or training?

As for my personal safety, this is something I have asked before, but
apart from having safe numbers I can call, will there be any extra
security? "

The text I got in response was
"Julia mentioned you have quite a few more questions so perhaps we should meet for another chat befroe taking things furthur"

Which I replied...
" they are very simple questions and it shouldn't take too long to answer them"
Peter

" Ok. I will read them on friday"

So far I haven't received any replies what so ever.... and I am glad!

I don't look down on finishing schools, and I believe anything that can be done for the individual to better them selves is a vital part of a persons growth.

 Hence finding this site and it all being about a process of growth... and I'm sorry if I have made a very basic mistake! cultural studies unfortunately doesn't teach you how not to be naive!

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #10 on: 11 December 2009, 08:52:20 pm »
As for my own eventual payment, will I be payed straight in to my bank
account and what will the percentage be from the eventual salary I am
earning. What is my salary?

I don't mean to reiterate previous comments, but have you really read the main site? Even if you are Super Klassy, it still applies to you - things like, Only Accept Cash Payments, and Take Payment At The Beginning Of The Booking. I'll have you know that I am on le books of an (overpriced?) agency ;) and the procedure is still very similar to any other way of working. Take cash, smile, suck. Look pretty throughout. Repeat with next booking.

As for the training, I really am interested in learning the art of the
courtesan, decorum- etiquette- is my meeting with Peter a preliminary date
or training?

I have absolutely no idea what courtesan training could POSSIBLY involve. What do you think you need to learn? We could probably teach you here on SAAFE and you wouldn't even have to pay us (specially not with sex). ;D

As for my personal safety, this is something I have asked before, but
apart from having safe numbers I can call, will there be any extra
security? "

Security is another issue we cover regularly and extensively on this site! No matter how much your agency charges their clients, they're still not going to provide you with a 24/7 bodyguard who's a former FBI agent and a eunuch. You should look into the buddy section of these forums. :)

The text I got in response was
"Julia mentioned you have quite a few more questions so perhaps we should meet for another chat befroe taking things furthur"

I think this means, "Please stop asking questions - I will put your mouth to an alternative use if you meet up with me again."

Then again, I'm no courtesan and no one's ever offered to train me to be one so I may just be ignorant in all this.
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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #11 on: 11 December 2009, 11:12:00 pm »
Take cash, smile, suck. Look pretty throughout. Repeat with next booking.

Emily you always make me laugh but she's spot on Mieux, that's the way it goes. I am a bit concerned for you however as from reading your posts you don't seem to have fully grasped what being an escort is really about. We are prostitutes. If you join an agency you will be working as a prostitute, even with the 'high class' agencies. I'm sorry to be so blunt honey but I do worry that you have some glamorous idea of what it's all about and I would hate to think that anyone took advantage of you, be it a client or an 'agency'. Please, for your own sake, read this forum and all the posts from top to bottom before you decide to go ahead. I'm sorry if I sound patronising, I really don't mean to be.... but I'm sure all of the other ladies would agree there is very little if not no work available where the booking isn't all about sex. Even on rare dinner dates it is all about sex, every time.
Please think carefully my love
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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #12 on: 12 December 2009, 12:06:53 am »
Take cash, smile, suck. Look pretty throughout. Repeat with next booking.

love it!

I totally understand and I will make this my mantra just incase I might forget in the future


« Last Edit: 12 December 2009, 12:17:00 am by Mieux »

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« Reply #13 on: 12 December 2009, 12:27:31 am »
Adding to that and this might really burst some bubbles but so called high class clients can be even bigger shysters and may not be more hygienic...  In fact, their arrogance might only be surpassed by the rancidness of their schlongs!  As an independent, operating in a less heady whoring stratosphere I can threaten them with the use of my Kaercher pressure washer.  How do you tell some arrogant stinky prick to wash his nether regions when he paid you a fortune to suck his miffing Porsche ersatz?   To be honest it can be a lot easier to ride for Europe then spend a few hours humouring someone?s overinflated ego. 

If any lady wants real support on here they also need to stay clear of all this upscale, VIP nonsense ? none of us are  better (or mieux lol) than others.  You need to be clear that a prostitute might charge different rates and fair dos and congrats to anyone who can get the maximum for the job but essentially we all f*ck and suck for money!  And at some of the more astronomic rates, some ladies really do have to work for the money by having to put up with truly unpleasant guys.  You might come across some lovely men too but never lose sight of the fact that those who spend a lot of money do often feel like they bought you and will make you feel a lot cheaper than the less ?upscale? gentlemen.

Simple training we can offer you for free is ? no money no honey.  No cheques or other non cash payments.  Unless you really have a need for it no livestock or bartering either.  Same goes for the agency ? trust is great ? cash from each client upfront is better.  Time is currency and so is your mental and physical health.  Stick to your comfort zone and do not let flash guys ?train? you for anything that you don?t want to do.  Don?t let some daft notion of elitism cloud your judgement.  A decent hourly rate in cash upfront is worth more than Gourmet Pie in the Sky!   Basically, all you need to really clear with yourself is ? are you prepared and able to have sex with literally anyone for cash?   

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Re: Agency to good to be true??
« Reply #14 on: 12 December 2009, 01:00:20 am »
i don't think i'm better than anybody else- the name suggests something dif. to me- but honey you can take it any way you wish-

as for the advice- thanx