Hi everyone,

I've been doing my research on here for a few months now, so thought today that I'd join and post my first message.

I'm trying to find a good agency in Leeds to start with, does anyone have any recommendations? I've seen it mentioned on here that I K Services are good, and their website does come across really friendly, but they're only on one of the three review sites, so now I'm not sure.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Also, do any agencies have apartments that you can work from? I live with other people right now and would hate to move out, get a place of my own and start working only to discover I don't like it and have a massive rent to pay on a bartender's wage! That's pretty unlikely though, I've been stripping for years (and years...) so I have some idea of what to expect. Anyway, like I said, any advice is welcome.

Thanks ladies xx

I think you're mistaken Beatrix - we don't recommend individual operations on the forum as this is an independent support and advice resource; posts made singing the praises of a specific agency would have been removed and I don't remember any popping up recently. If agencies/brothels want free advertising outside the Spamming section, they will have to look elsewhere.

If you have a read through the threads you will see that this has been pointed out repeatedly in recent weeks and the best you can hope for with regard to specifics are PMs from ladies who can help - you do have to do some of the legwork yourself (although there are considerably more than 3 review sites, for starters). Incall agencies are just varying degrees of brothels and there are a few in Leeds - you could also stick to outcalls until you decide whether the job is for you or not.

Do be aware that you are likely to have to hand over a significantly higher cut of your fees (probably around half) if you are being provided with premises - have you thought of trying cheap hotels for the days you are working? There might also be other ladies interested in a flat-share; have a look and maybe post in the Seeking/Offering section.

Welcome to SAAFE!

Oh, sorry! God, I was determined not to be one of those people who makes totally random and innappropriate first posts - fail!

Thanks for that advice. I do ultimately want to be independant, and the hotel room sounds ideal. This might sound naive, but don't the management realise what's going on? Or are they just not bothered? Anyway, I'll look at the boards some more before posting again.

Thanks again! x

Don't worry! We're getting that question posted so often lately I can actually type the answer, with variations, in my sleep  .

It does depend to some degree on the hotel, but I know plenty of ladies who do this (including one in Leeds who has to use hotels for all her incalls). I have no idea whether the management notice or not but even if they do, I doubt they'd care that much unless you were making a nuisance of yourself (and there isn't really any reason why they should, if you think about it).

The best thing to do is pick some chain place (Etap, Ibis and so on) with a busy reception/lobby area, staff who couldn't give a toss and a clear route to the rooms without keycards - again, there are loads of threads about this. Obviously family-type B&Bs are pretty much out of the question but there are stacks of others  .

I think it's because the whole process of getting into a profession like this is so overwhelming that only about 20% of the information from the site actually goes into your brain at first. You're totally right, independent seems to be the way to go. It seems to me that agencies make so much out of new girls by presenting themselves as lovely people who'll hold your hand and look after you - which I'm just not buying I'm afraid. Not that I think that some won't to some  extent, but by God they'll charge for it!

You're absolutely right on all counts here. I wish agencies would be more transparent about the fact that they love new girls is because clients love new girls and so new girls make the agency big bucks. But then transparency isn't terribly common in this industry (except on SAAFE where all the nitty gritty details are laid bare! ).

Anyway, just because agencies are not often that great at upselling 'old' girls, or even at matching clients with the ideal girl or providing security/checks, or anything that they're really supposed to be doing for their commission, doesn't mean they can't be a good way to get started with escorting. It just means that anyone starting out needs to have their head on straight and their own safety procedures in place from the get go. Which is hard when you're also worried about how your actual first booking is going to go, outfits, music, all those details, too. Agencies will at least provide you with a sudden quick stream of bookings that will dry up eventually but will certainly get you going in the first place. At the very least, a bit of cash for your first photoshoot and website for indie-ness.

As Amy said, if an agency is going to provide you with an incall location and/or a driver for outcalls, they'll take a lot of commission; there are also agencies (not sure about Leeds?) where you get yourself to bookings but they can still give you plenty of outcall work while you're new. You just have to drive or pay for taxies or your own security driver. This means you probably won't have a set 'shift' to work but may suddenly be contacted for last minute bookings that they'll want you to take.

Also, I think there is added pressure when working for someone else when you're new (or even not new), not necessarily directly from the agency but likely from the natural inclination to want to do well that anyone has - no one wants to tell their boss on the first day of work that they're knackered and a customer upset you and you want to go home, but then again, not everyone is doing sex work where being tired and having sh*t customers really can have a much worse effect than it does when working in a coffee shop. It can be important to remember here that the people getting you bookings (if you're with an agency) are not the people DOING the bookings, they're just people trying to make money from YOU doing the bookings. So if you go with an agency and find it hard to take things slow because they're assigning you bookings back to back until the wee hours, it can be a struggle but it's important to remember to put yourself first.

Anyway, that's just all musings from my working history and are all a bit irrelevant as from what you've said, you're going about things carefully and going with the indie route. Sorry about all that babbling! I think what you've done so far sounds absolutely right, and have you checked out getting a security buddy? This can be someone in your area who can not only check in with you when you have bookings but also help you with local places to advertise and other useful stuff.

An easy way to find popular directories to advertise on is to check out other indie escort websites and see which banners they have on their homepages. Definitely keep us updated on your progress!