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Dylan_Varnet

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After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« on: 29 August 2019, 01:48:46 pm »
Hell  :FF As many of you I'm lost after BACKPAGE was fired after FOSTA.

I can't find where's going the traffic, after Craig List deleted the adult contacts, I came into Back Page, was the best alternative with price-results relationship, but now since FOSTA destroy this site (and many of escort-guides) I can't find a valid alternative.

Local websites in Spain sucks, they are not serious and can't provide good traffic to get enough visitors and dates. So, ladies, can you recommend me some good escort directory who provide good customers?  EROS only have ITALY and UK area, If I want to be listed they don't offer place for other countries in Europe. I just found CITY OF LOVE, but it is not enough, this web is ok but brings customers sometimes and I'm looking for other one more regular.

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #1 on: 02 September 2019, 08:51:35 pm »
Locanto? Viva Street?

Elite Ebony

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #2 on: 03 September 2019, 12:03:10 am »
Try putting location + escort in google.

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #3 on: 03 September 2019, 07:17:24 pm »
I have no idea about escort advertising, but for a massage there is just no alternative to Backpage.
Backpage was one big funnel.
It seems that traffic is now spread into many smaller funnels - directories (some bigger than others, like AW), social media and being visible on Google.

Have you tried Tryst.link?

Dylan_Varnet

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #4 on: 03 September 2019, 08:42:26 pm »
Hi! Yes I have my active profile in Tryst.link and no one call from there. Is complicate survive as an independent escort, in Barcelona the best positions in Google are for agencies and brothels, I lost 2 times my instagram account and 5 Twitter accounts for denounces.
There're many websites but without enough traffic, I wasted a lot of money testing sites https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/where-to-advertise/780/

Bedpage.com was super weird, I received the SMS offering create ads for free, I did it. The site was offline for a while, then when come back again the guy said is not free anymore, I paid by paypal and the site dissapeared. When was online again the webmaster offered credits again but all time on this way: intermittent
As the webmaster is not serious, in fact he is more like a ghost, I don't will deposit 1 euro anymore.

2 websites seems to reeplace backpage: CityxGuide and SkiptheGame but again the FBI did shit there in both websites.

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"The cops are posting bots on sites and ads to lure customers to “stings”! Watch your number,cause the police can post your stuff and attach it to sites."


Backpage was great for travellers, thanks to the big traffic who had for international businessman running around the world, just delete the old ad change for the new city and voilá! But now there is not any option for global sites.
« Last Edit: 03 September 2019, 09:03:22 pm by amy »

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #5 on: 03 September 2019, 09:09:23 pm »
Oh gosh, it's not good.  :-\
It's really difficult in Spain from what you're saying.

I don't know how it looks in Barcelona, but don't be too discouraged by top positions on Google taken by the agencies.
There are things you can do to be on top of Google:

- Google AdWords (haven't tried it personally)
- Google Business (haven't tried it either, but it will put you on Google maps)
- SEO:
1) Your website should load fast (good hosting, pictures not too big), have a clear structure and be responsive (optimised for mobiles, tablets).
2) Good, long content with relevant keywords and interesting enough for people to stay long on your pages and come back.
It's basically a lot of good copywriting.
You can have separate pages for Barcelona, Madrid, London, every location that you want to rank for.

Writing especially long pages can be such a chore, for me even writing a short blog post is like shitting razor blades... Painful!  :(
I prefer to do all by myself but it's easier with hiring a copywriter.

It's a lot of work.  :(

Oh, and backlinks!

Another thing I would definitely recommend is a newsletter. (In my experience it's actually really hard to get people to subscribe though.)
And a Telegram channel.
« Last Edit: 03 September 2019, 09:32:35 pm by 80s synthetic »

seraphine

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #6 on: 03 September 2019, 09:53:01 pm »
I have an idea for you - you can set up a Telegram channel for independent escorts in Europe and post adverts that people will send you.
It will be much easier to get subscribers for a channel that will have many escorts, not just one.
You can still post your own ad but you will have much more traffic. I think.  :)

seraphine

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #7 on: 03 September 2019, 10:20:25 pm »
Ha!...  :D! You can embed a message from Telegram channel on your website! Not the channel feed though. Sadly.


Dylan_Varnet

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #8 on: 04 September 2019, 09:00:24 am »
cool, good idea about Telegram, I'll cheek it.

I tried in Google Adwords and with 200€ x month you don't do nothing, for Barcelona there're high prices for clicks.
For Barcelona the stronger site is a local escort forum full of abusives guys, I had to get a lawyer to stop them, and girls are terrify to lose their job if they do some confrontation.

Now I'm looking for a designer-seo to invest in a professional design with the possibility to get access to the dashboard and work by my self If I want with backlinks, articles, etc.
In Spain I didn't received answers to my mails for the every company that I wrote asking for prices and conditions, and then I remembered the CHERRYGIRLS webmaster is offering marketing and design. So I'm waiting his response for a good offer to start to work with him.

Another point: Vivastreet here doesn't exist. Adult Work is not popular and many good websites don't want to include Spain (like Eros for example).

seraphine

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #9 on: 04 September 2019, 09:30:22 am »
You're very proactive! It looks like Spain is a difficult place for business, I really feel for you.

When looking for a web developer, personally I would go for a freelancer (you said that you contacted companies before) and just be clear that hosting needs to allow adult content.
Before choosing a web developer I would check their portfolio.
Alternatively, you can do a website by yourself in WordPress and only look for adult hosting.

You mentioned earlier that you lost Twitter and Instagram accounts for denounces - is it because of the legal situation of sex work in Spain or because of malicious people?

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #10 on: 04 September 2019, 09:31:32 am »
Have you tried massage republic
They are very big in the Middle East and it’s free for a basic advert and Claire who runs it is pretty good and you can move the profile to different areas
My friend uses it in Cyprus and Spain and has got work from it
I’ve Also sent you a pm

Dylan_Varnet

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #11 on: 04 September 2019, 09:59:28 am »
Yes, Massage Republic is big in Middle East, sometimes I get customers, but not often. As I can keep my profile for free I don't mind but is not like Backpage where I got good customers in 5* Hotels minimum 3 times x week.

Also sometimes I get customers from City of Love. But I'm looking for some guide who can provide more consistant traffic with more stability for dates.

seraphine

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #12 on: 04 September 2019, 09:59:35 am »
Another thing that comes to mind is that if you have such difficulties (even being as proactive as you are), other independent providers in Spain are in the same boat?
And this is an opportunity to get together and solve the problem.

A Telegram channel with ads for independents would be a mini-solution.
Having a 'Friends' page on your website is another option.
Setting up a website for independents would be ideal, but like with any new thing, it would require a lot of marketing effort.
(But then look at Tryst for example - they are not even a year old, are they?)

Dylan_Varnet

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #13 on: 04 September 2019, 10:06:06 am »
no, to be honest, here girls rarely speak a second  language, they don't question the quality of the client, much less the quality of the service from webmasters. On many occasions I have helped writting texts, making translations, mediate with clients to fix conditions and then, they leave the city and are not able to call to greet. They want everything for free and easy. So I'm going through a stage of selfishness and I take care of my work without attending to the needs of others.

They pay dearly for bad services and I have not been able to gather 10 girls to make a criminal denounce to the mafia forum. I have already spent my time on something other than my growth.

In opossite I see here and in other forum in USA (eccie) where the girls are active helping each other. Is amazing.

seraphine

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Re: After FOSTA disaster: Backpage alternatives in Europe?
« Reply #14 on: 04 September 2019, 10:23:32 am »
That's very disheartening, I understand.  :(

But I'm looking for some guide who can provide more consistant traffic with more stability for dates.

I think that the kind of stability that Backpage provided is gone.

From what you're describing the situation, it looks like focusing on your website and SEO would be the best solution.