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mysteriousGirl

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Going back on your word
« on: 08 August 2015, 11:27:23 am »

Ok so I'm probably going to receive my fare share of critique for this and to be fair it's warranted.
I've been taking bookings from a guy for around a year now and he's got a bit "too friendly".
During the booking before our last one, at a hotel, he said he would like me to stay the night.
I was caught off guard because it hadnt been prediscussed and felt quite awkward. I didn't want to stay so to soften the blow (which I shouldn't have done) I said next time. Our bookings are usually 4 hours. I get the impression he would want me to  stay over for no more cash than he would pay for the 4 hours.

Next time came and I made an excuse about family commitments. He was disappointed but took it ok. He  assumed I would be staying over on our next appointment, which is today, and I let him. (Again, bad me!)

I really don't want to do an overnight because I won't feel comfortable, period. But because I feel I need to keep his business for financial reasons (I don't see many people) I don't know how to tell him and I've buried my head in the sand. (I know I know)

So do I text him now, before I go to the hotel tonight, or do I wait until our appointment tonight? I'm quite an anxious person so something like this is typical of me but is also the reason I only see a handful of people.

Sigh

Any advice please x

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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #1 on: 08 August 2015, 11:57:11 am »
Basically you have two choices..if you are desperate to keep his business you will have to go through with it,but then what do you do next time??..if you are not then i would be polite and apologetic,saying i have thought it over and decided I really need to keep my business head on and just see you for the time  booked.i cant afford to stay overnight if it isnt an agreed booking.Sorry about saying i would in the heat of the moment,but it just isnt feasible for me in reality.
You will probably lose him i admit.But its a lesson learnt about being assertive at all times and dealing with boundaries.

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« Reply #2 on: 08 August 2015, 12:04:33 pm »
No, you shouldn't have said you would stay last time, but he did spring it on you without warning and without even checking you offer overnights, so you're fine to explain that you weren't comfortable and worried about souring the booking. If you don't advertise overnights (and I don't do them either) then you can also say you were confused as to why he was asking for one without knowing what your overnight rate was?

What you don't have to do is go through with it. Like Sultress said, it's a valuable lesson about boundary pushers and how they work - I remember something similar happening to me on an evening booking which meant me leaving him at around midnight for a two hour journey, and I also remember the 'oh it's so late, you might as well just stay here and get a decent night's sleep' like he was doing me a massive favour ::). No more money was forthcoming when I asked, either.

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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #3 on: 08 August 2015, 02:32:31 pm »
Thanks ladies.

So I text him half an hour ago after reading your replies. This is what I put:

Hello, sorry to spring this on you last minute but upon thinking about tonight I've decided I can't stay overnight. I'm not comfortable with overnight bookings so I apologise for agreeing to stay over before but I felt a little on the spot and didn't want to sour the meeting. I'm happy to come for our usual 4 hours but I will be going home afterwards as staying over until tomorrow isn't feasible for me.

He's text back that he understands and still wants to see me tonight but he's cancelled our other meeting which was due to take place at the end of the month. On call at work apparently. He said he was fighting it because he knew he was seeing me but it looks like he may be on call after all.

That makes me think he's only let me down on that appointment because I'm not staying the night, so he obviously assumed I would be even though no discussions took place about me staying the night on that occasion. I'm a little annoyed by it but I guess he's annoyed too because he thought he would have me there the entire night tonight.

 Part of me thinks he would probably cancel today if he was able to get his money back on the hotel lol. Is there a time scale which you can get a refund on hotels, I'm not familiar? He just seemed very quick to cancel our next appointment at the end of the month but not so quick to cancel tonight's (it has been booked for some weeks)

Oh well lesson learned!

« Last Edit: 08 August 2015, 02:39:43 pm by mysteriousGirl »

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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #4 on: 08 August 2015, 03:26:08 pm »
I think your gut feeling is right...

He's delicately releasing himself
now he knows you aren't playing.

« Last Edit: 08 August 2015, 03:27:54 pm by cheesypeas »
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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #5 on: 08 August 2015, 03:35:40 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised if he's bluffing to try an get you to commit to an overnight. I'd bet that even after he sees you won't play ball he'll "suddenly be available" for those bookings afterall. 
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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #6 on: 08 August 2015, 07:54:22 pm »
To me, our golden rule should be - if it doesn't feel right, don't do it - even if money, repeat business or whatever is at stake.
"There is no sin except stupidity" - Oscar Wilde

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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #7 on: 08 August 2015, 08:02:44 pm »
Even if you do loose him as a regular (and a 4hr regular is a good one), he sounds like a boundary pusher, I've had my fair share
of them in my time, thinking themselves special and only booking for an hour but staying for two or three as a "social" visit and we
only spent one hour in the bedroom. (His reasoning, not mine obviously..!!)
He sounds like one of those (I could be totally wrong), but they'll try and get away with it if you let them!
And like Kay said, if it doesn't feel right, it usually isn't!
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« Reply #8 on: 08 August 2015, 09:36:11 pm »
He's maybe had girls before do that so once one does they think they all will.  I've got pets that I have to get home to but if I didn't I'd use that as an excuse. I sometimes wonder if some of the boundary pushers do it intentionally or just get carried away thinking we are enjoying ourselves & that they are a stud muffin so we should want to stay naturally. Of course there will always be piss takers in life, it's unavoidable. It's tempting to be a people pleaser with anxiety issues, I have the same problem sometimes.

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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #9 on: 08 August 2015, 09:47:14 pm »
Even if you do loose him as a regular (and a 4hr regular is a good one), he sounds like a boundary pusher, I've had my fair share
of them in my time, thinking themselves special and only booking for an hour but staying for two or three as a "social" visit and we
only spent one hour in the bedroom. (His reasoning, not mine obviously..!!)
He sounds like one of those (I could be totally wrong), but they'll try and get away with it if you let them!
And like Kay said, if it doesn't feel right, it usually isn't!

I've come across this phenomena too, often after agreeing to stick at reduced or regular rates and only leaving when I put a foot down. Thank goodness for clients who do not even dream of being like that, but it can be draining.

Personally I don't like going back on my word, so for me it's about making it clear once I've fulfilled whatever commitment I've made that it won't be happening again ie would have been before he'd rebooked.

I hope it works out for you.

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Re: Going back on your word
« Reply #10 on: 09 August 2015, 12:50:33 am »
Thanks ladies.

So I text him half an hour ago after reading your replies. This is what I put:

Hello, sorry to spring this on you last minute but upon thinking about tonight I've decided I can't stay overnight. I'm not comfortable with overnight bookings so I apologise for agreeing to stay over before but I felt a little on the spot and didn't want to sour the meeting. I'm happy to come for our usual 4 hours but I will be going home afterwards as staying over until tomorrow isn't feasible for me.

He's text back that he understands and still wants to see me tonight but he's cancelled our other meeting which was due to take place at the end of the month. On call at work apparently. He said he was fighting it because he knew he was seeing me but it looks like he may be on call after all.

That makes me think he's only let me down on that appointment because I'm not staying the night, so he obviously assumed I would be even though no discussions took place about me staying the night on that occasion. I'm a little annoyed by it but I guess he's annoyed too because he thought he would have me there the entire night tonight.

 Part of me thinks he would probably cancel today if he was able to get his money back on the hotel lol. Is there a time scale which you can get a refund on hotels, I'm not familiar? He just seemed very quick to cancel our next appointment at the end of the month but not so quick to cancel tonight's (it has been booked for some weeks)

Oh well lesson learned!

Well done with the message.If he is throwing his dummy out after that he is definitely not worth your energy.I very recently had a guy who really pushed my boundaries and i ended up in tears because he managed to make me feel so horrible about it.so manipulative!